Should the US become involved in helping protesters in Iran?

What does it say about their intelligence though that they consider that a good source of information.

Entertainment, Yes ... information, No.

No one with a brain believes that.

What really doesn’t make sense to me is how some people believe that the protesters are just doing it for money, when it’s known that thousands of them have already been killed by the regime.
How would so many people risk their lives if they weren’t really desperate for change?

I hope you hear from your family soon. My heart aches for the people of Iran. Abused by the regime and used by Trump.

Also - Craig Murray is a prick and always has been.

You have so many excellent posts on here. My wife is from Iran, we have been married for 35 years. I have relatives in Iran, who we have been unable to contact for 10 days. The situation there is pretty dire, with heaven knows how many thousands of protestors have been killed, Because of the regime internet blackout, it has enabled them to put out pro regime propaganda, but at the same time, there is a trickle of news from the protesters coming out. I am not happy about the way Trump and Pahlavi have been encouraging people to go out on the streets, to get slaughtered and now they have seemingly left them out to dry. I have also been disgusted by left wing sites and blogs over here - Craig Murray for instance, saying that these are not real anti regime protests, simply outside interference by the US and Israel. People don't seem to realise, that in Iran, ordinary people don't have weapons, so they can't fight back. This isn't like 1979, when the US/UK helped the Shah into exile, the Khomeini came out of exile in France and the military very quickly stopped firing against the people and themselves joined the revolution. That isn't going to happen this time, because the regime is so entrenched, the IRGC so huge and the backup militias such as the Basij are totally evil.
Iran needs outside assistance quickly and I don't know where that help is coming from, because it isn't like the "old days", when you had UN peacekeeping forces, there doesn't seem to be any co-ordination between willing states to stop this.

As the internet blackout enters the second week, Sky News report that the Pentagon is readying to send thousands of additional US forces & assets to the Middle East.

Citing a US official, it states that this includes a carrier strike group, additional air craft and land-based air defence systems.

Satellite imagery appeared to show the US Abraham Lincoln heading in the direction of the Middle East.

Donald Trump still considering his options.

The USA can't currently run the USA very well. Let alone anywhere else.

Yeah we owe them to be honest, a lot of blood on our hands for delivering that prick to Tehran.

Well uk us and France were pretty influential in disposing of the Shah years ago….,

Also the reason x shouldn’t be banned, theres a lot of shit on there but its times like this people can get their message out.

Really most normal Iranians don’t I don’t think. They tried to raise a chant about Israel and a bunch of students started screaming “fucking palestine” back , that was last week before they started cutting the internet. Which I don’t endorse tbh and I think is meant more as a provocation against the regime than any genuine personal animosity towards Palestinians.

Also remember footage at campuses where they had painted the american and Israeli flag on the floor and students too care not to step on them.

Iranians aren’t stupid, they know where their pilfered money is going. As I said I follow a fair few Iranians on twitter and they post footage from iran that Parsi speakers will translate.

Yeah I do agree with this, I understand why the Syrian Kurds are anti government, look what happened to the Druze. I also understand why Jolani tried to fold jihadis i ti the national army. It’s difficult, he’s trying to restrain them. On the other hand Iraqi kurds are rubbing along ok and tend to be okish with the Iraqi government also anti PKK.

Baloch is an interesting one, not sure about the Iranian Balochs but the Pakistani Balochs seem to want independence and feel they are being oppressed by the Pakistani government. I’m not entirely aure whats going on there tbh.

I think some groups will be fine some will want succession or federalisation. I really hope they don’t, I don’t think it’s necessary in a country like Iran with low religiosity (compared to it’s neighbours). In most arab countries it’s a balancing act between different religious groups and ethnic groups. I hope that Iranians are able to see themselves as Iranians first.

@Alexandra2001 wasn't Blair in charge when he and bush went into Iraq ?

'As for Israeli flags appearing at the protests'

Iranians stood with Israelis and British Jews at many vigils during the Gaza war. Unsurprising when you remember that Islamists in Iran helped finance and protect Hamas, among other terrorists.

On the point about whether the Iranians like america or not I would suggest following iranians on twitter, many are amplifying messages from within Iran calling on help from america ...

I have Twitter blocked, @Bringemout, but it's worth remembering that plenty of people "like America" when they want something - usually money or military support - but are all too ready to revert to screaming and spitting once they've got it

As for Israeli flags appearing at the protests, I really wouldn't be too swayed ... they'll be back to burning them soon enough

Strange to joke about this awful situation.

Iran isn’t going to attack anyone whatever happens. It’s forces would be shot or blown up straightaway.