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To be surprised nobody helped me?

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Mintybreath · 11/01/2026 22:47

i was unwell a few months ago and for some reason it suddenly popped into my head the other day

basically I was walking home and suddenly felt extremely unwell- like I knew I was dying. It was the worst I’ve ever felt in my life. Really awful nausea and palpitations

i was terrified because i felt like i was about to drop dead on the street and i knew I HAD to get home. I don’t actually know why I didn’t even think to call 999, but I just kept thinking I needed to get home. It was 9pm, pitch black and heavily raining. I could barely stand up but forced myself to walk a few steps, and after a few minutes I immediately had to bend down low to try and feel less terrible, then I’d walk a few steps again, then I had to crouch low again. I never collapsed or lost consciousness thankfully but I was violently sick on the street and was visibly not well and in my head I kept thinking I was going to drop dead on the street by myself and I was terrified. It lasted for about 20 minutes and I somehow made it home,

To cut a very long and boring story short, it turns out I actually was unwell, I was in vtach at over 200

It suddenly popped into my head the other day and got me thinking how literally nobody helped. I was walking on the pavement on a main residential road and was visibly unwell- admittedly it was late so not like there were loads of people walking about but I definitely passed people, lots of cars, and a few times I was crouched and struggling to walk right in front of peoples living room windows. I know nobody is obligated to help, but I guess it just surprised me that they didn’t? Is it because they thought I was unwell because of drink/drugs or something and didn’t want to get involved? Or just because it was raining and late at night?

tbh partly my fault because I should have just opened my mouth and called out for help, I don’t really know why I didn’t because I remember thinking please please can someone help me, but I think the palpitations were so awful all I could focus on was GET HOME. Maybe my expectations are a bit off but would others have expected someone to help? Thankfully feeling a lot better now and hopefully I’ll never be in that situation again needless to say!

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Tulipsriver · 12/01/2026 11:19

From your description it sounds like you might have looked high. People may have been worried to get involved because people on drugs can be a bit unpredictable. It's a shame no one thought to call an ambulance from a distance (though I'm not sure if waiting times would have made that pointless).

DangerousAlchemy · 12/01/2026 11:10

That sounds really scary OP! Glad you're OK now. People are reluctant to help these days I think. It's partly the way we are all raising our kids I think. Tightly knit family groups etc. very insular. People are more afraid of 'strangers' now than they were before the pandemic. If it was 9pm, dark and heavy raining though I guess there weren't tons of pedestrians around to help you? Just motorists? Not a nice situation to be in though. The state of the modern world I think sadly. People are sometimes too polite to get involved too. I picked up a young child that had fallen and banged its head and was screaming at a splash park some years ago (& started looking for the parents, obviously) and the parents snatched the kid from me as if I was a paedophile then shot me filthy looks before they left 🤷‍♀️

Sponge321 · 12/01/2026 11:05

Even if not assuming drink/drugs - vomiting could be pregnancy, or just a bug/food poisoning. Either way its not often something that requires an ambulance and also not really much anyone else can do to help except possibly a.drink of water.

Same with people crying - I'd usually leave them alone and give them privacy tbh. I have been offered a tissue when crying before at a.station and it was kind but I didn't want to speak to anyone or explain anything. I've stopped for a girl crying outside Maccies before as she.was in uniform so clearly upset with her boss but generally I leave people be.

The more people who are around generally the less people help as they assume someone more qualified will come along. Once one person stops to help then others often will though if I see 3 or 4 people already helping then I assume theyre being sorted and carry on.

Also if you witness a serious trip or fall then the cause is obvious and its an easier and simpler decision to help than if you see someone slurring words or stumbling.

My college teacher was diabetic but we didnt know. He once had a hypo in class.and was slurring and being quite erratic. We were all a bit scared and unsure what to do. And assumed he was on drugs or something and so partly didn't want to get him into trouble. Eventually one boy went to get the science tech who knew the teacher was diabetic so could quickly sort it with a Mars bar - but I dont know how long we would all have sat there - it took that one person to take the initiative and go and ask for help.

Fuelledbylatte · 12/01/2026 10:55

I was in the gym changing room and a woman was audibly having some sort of episode. I really quietly asked her if she needed any assistance and it made her worse - screaming at me she was overwhelmed and needed to be left alone.

Id honestly think twice about offering to help anybody in the future just because I made that worse without obviously meaning to and it made me then think I was in the wrong because she would have sought help if she needed it/ I’d interfered.

milveycrohn · 12/01/2026 10:51

My DS has helped someone before. A man lying in the road; obviously drunk.
However, he knows to stand back, and call paramedics/police.
If you go to help, especially if someone was drunk, which could make them belligerent, or disorientated; they could have a knife etc; could accuse you of stealing their wallet/purse, etc.
Obviously, the OP knew she did not have a knife, etc, but someone helping does not know that. It all depends on the circumstances.
So, i'd assume they thought the OP was drunk.

Navybluecoat · 12/01/2026 10:39

I remember when I was about 7 ish months pregnant (and was the size of a blue whale) and doing some shopping in town

I suddenly felt really sick,shaky,faint,i could feel the blood rushing around my body and I could feel my heart beating out of my chest

I managed to stagger to the local jobcentre doorway and asked the nearest person for help

They shoved me outside and told me to ring an ambulance from there before walking away

Some woman walked past and said to her mate (loudly) 'look at that!pissed AND pregnant!' before marching away

Not one person stopped to help (one being a nasty bitch who my mother knew-she rang my narcissist mother from over the road to give her second by second updates on what I was doing-i was off my tits on drugs apparently)

I managed to call for an ambulance and got the help I needed but I've never forgotten it

I make a point of asking if someone is ok and getting help if needed (happened once or twice over the years)

Mintybreath · 12/01/2026 10:35

I hadn’t actually thought about the fact people would struggle with the vomitting but tbh that makes so much sense- I absolutely cannot stand vomit so I’d probably struggle with helping with that too in fairness!

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Mintybreath · 12/01/2026 10:33

FurForksSake · 12/01/2026 10:20

Have you been diagnosed with what caused the v tach they saw on the monitors? Panic attacks often have the symptoms you mention alongside very fast heart rates (150-250) and that can cause v tach.

Yeah I have heart problems already. I don’t have panic attacks thankfully I’ve never suffered with that, I didn’t think panic attacks could cause vtach - I know it can cause sinus tachycardia but not ventricular tachycardia but I definitely could be wrong? Either way I don’t have panic attacks it’s to do with my heart unfortunately, but hopefully it won’t happen again! x

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FurForksSake · 12/01/2026 10:20

Have you been diagnosed with what caused the v tach they saw on the monitors? Panic attacks often have the symptoms you mention alongside very fast heart rates (150-250) and that can cause v tach.

Ilovecakey · 12/01/2026 10:17

AdarajamesAgain · 12/01/2026 00:56

I would and do and have nearly always stopped / asked if people are OK and dealt with all sorts if incidents / accidents / fires on the street. I carry a decent first aid kit including naloxone and a resus mask after doing CPR in the street without one and needing to have Hep tests afterwards. I've stopped to talk to people standing on bridges known to be suicide spots to check they are OK and talked someone down from possibly harming themselves.

However, I am emetophobic and so the one thing I can't deal with is if someone is vomiting, so would've found it very hard to assist someone in your position. I'd hope to be able to at least ask from a distance if you were OK, but the likelihood is I'd end up sick as well, so I'm not sure how much help I would've been to you.

Do you mean you would physically be sick as well? As im emetophobic but I wouldn't be sick but I also wouldnt go near anyone being sick. I thought most people who are emetophobic resist being sick so im just curious if it makes you sick

Mintybreath · 12/01/2026 10:11

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 09:31

basically I was walking home and suddenly felt extremely unwell- like I knew I was dying.

But you weren't dying were you!

Ventricular tachycardia is a fatal heart rhythm

probably best not to past sarky comments about things you don’t understand x

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LadyLolaRuben · 12/01/2026 09:59

Im sorry that happened OP. I spent last night in a field with the police dealing with an overturned car that I had found.

There are lots of good and nice people out there, so please don't lose faith in humanity. It sounds like you were too unwell to call for help and sadly on this occasion no-one instinctively came to your aid.

FurForksSake · 12/01/2026 09:54

My husband and others did by-stander cpr on a packed moving train out of London on a man that collapsed. He said there was a moment after the man hit the deck that they all paused and looked at each other before jumping in. Very sadly it was not successful, but they all acted swiftly and did everything correctly and gave the man the best possible chance until the paramedics were able to meet the train.

Both of us are trained in first aid and basic life support (previously I’ve had more in depth training). DH is also quietly a ninja. So he would absolutely help anyone, but would have a level of reticence and risk assessment before he moved in.

DH recommends practicing cpr in restricted spaces and in alternative positions, it took them a moment to work it out.

Ilovecakey · 12/01/2026 09:51

MeganM3 · 11/01/2026 23:10

People don’t like to be near vomiting so that’s probably why. If you had of seemed unwell in another way they probably would have helped?
I would help someone who had collapsed or fainted but probably not someone being super sick in all honesty.

Yeah me neither if I saw someone being sick it woukd make me run the other way tbh as im scared of it

WhatYouWearing · 12/01/2026 09:44

My partner would have wanted to help but wouldn’t have approached a lone woman. If I was by myself I might have been worried it was a mugging set up. Or drugs related.

But I know my concern for myself first is often over ridden. sometimes (like when children seem to be by themselves) I watch from a safe distance to make sure there’s a happy ending or in case I really do need to step in. It’s the sad society we live in 😔

LunaTheCat · 12/01/2026 09:37

I am sorry this happened .. very very scary and so sorry that you felt alone.
i think too many people make assumptions.
Ventricular tachycardia is very very scary.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 12/01/2026 09:35

I'd have stopped for a woman who was ill, if I noticed, even if I suspected that she was drunk.
It happened to my mother year's ago, she was hanging over a barrier trying to catch her breath, people assumed she was drunk until she collapsed.
It is unfortunate.

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 09:31

basically I was walking home and suddenly felt extremely unwell- like I knew I was dying.

But you weren't dying were you!

stillnoideawhatimdoing · 12/01/2026 09:28

I found this a huge culture shock when I moved to a city from a small country town. I slipped over and banged my head one morning (wet floor and uggs, was asking for trouble!) and despite it being super busy, daylight etc not one person stopped. Compared to a few weeks prior in my hometown where an older lady had tripped on the pavement and my dad and I stopped our bikes, helped her up and took her to a cafe for a sweet cup of hot tea. I'm back in the country now, and the north and would say it's more like the town I grew up in again. I got some bad news out and about a few months ago and was visibly upset and someone stopped to check if I was okay. So does still happen, guess it depends on your location and who's about!!

Saying that wasn't there a social experiment 10 years ago or something where they tried various things like a child crying in a shopping centre, someone dropping their shopping etc in various places and changing how the person was dressed/presented themselves to see how many people would stop and check/help? Seem to remember the only person in London who stopped and offered help with the shopping was Russell Brand! May have been more than one experiment actually, maybe the child one was something to do with unicef?

goldenmagicbiscuittin · 12/01/2026 09:21

Because people are often very selfish it would take one decent person to ask you then others would follow
so what if you were drunk or on drugs you were still visably unwell

So what? I tried to assist a drunk person once and ending up being assaulted by them (they slapped me hard in the face) - thats why I wouldnt do it again.

It has nothing to do with me being "selfish", and everything to do with my personal safety coming first. That does not make a person "selfish" FGS.

ChangeIsDue · 12/01/2026 09:21

Sadly I’m not surpised OP. Some years ago, my Achilles tendon ruptured suddenly when I was in the park with much younger DC. I was on the ground and screaming in pain. There were so many people in the park with family and some chatting with friends at nearby benches. I could hardly have been more visible, nor audible for that matter. Not one person stopped to ask me if I was OK, even as they were stepping round me to get into the play area. DC buggered off to play on the swings and I had to ring DH to ask him to come and rescue me.

Mintybreath · 12/01/2026 09:16

Really interesting to get other perspectives on it- tbh I agree it’s probably because people thought I was intoxicated (still sad obviously that nobody helped but I absolutely understand people would be concerned about their own safety, I would be the same tbh)

just wanted to address the few comments asking why I didn’t call out for help or phone for help, I guess that was the point of my post that I couldn’t do that and nobody helped. I know vtach isn’t something most people have experienced so people might not know first hand but it was horrendous and I was so unwell I couldn’t think properly or get help for myself. I know there’s other situations where people couldn’t ask for help (if they had a severe asthma attack, seizure, knocked out etc) and I guess it’s just scary to think you’re on your own in that situation x

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ZenNudist · 12/01/2026 09:11

Did you pass any people? In which case you d need to have asked for help. I wouldn't accompany anyone to a different location so your best bet was to call an ambulance then sit down on a wall.

I wouldn't see a passer by in trouble from my living room or driving

Goditsmemargaret · 12/01/2026 09:06

Wordsmithery · 12/01/2026 09:00

I fainted on the pavement once with two scared under fives next to me. Not a single car stopped.

People can be very disappointing can't they.

Oh this is awful! What did they do?

Goditsmemargaret · 12/01/2026 09:06

Yes I know that surprised feeling. When I was pregnant I was living in an extremely nice area that prides itself on how friendly and community focused it is.

One very hot day in the final stages I was out walking and thought I was going to faint. It had happened a few times previously. I ended up lying on the pavement. I was beyond embarrassment. After a while I felt marginally better but couldn't get up.

There were two men standing a few feet away from me chatting. I started to wonder why they hadn't even asked me if I was ok. I had to get home - about a five minutes walk and I was trying to get myself up safely. I called out to them to help me. They stopped talking and turned to face me and I recognised one of them! He owned the local coffee kiosk. I used of always see him when I was returning from my run - slim and fit pre-pregnancy. He was so friendly and always engaged me for chats, had given me a free coffee on occasion. "Oh it's you!" I said. He looked at me in disdain then nodded to the other man and said "I'll leave you to it."

I asked the other man for water, he irritably walked into his house and returned with a cup of water. I asked him to help me get up, he did but made a huge performance about how much he didn't want to.

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