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To be surprised nobody helped me?

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Mintybreath · 11/01/2026 22:47

i was unwell a few months ago and for some reason it suddenly popped into my head the other day

basically I was walking home and suddenly felt extremely unwell- like I knew I was dying. It was the worst I’ve ever felt in my life. Really awful nausea and palpitations

i was terrified because i felt like i was about to drop dead on the street and i knew I HAD to get home. I don’t actually know why I didn’t even think to call 999, but I just kept thinking I needed to get home. It was 9pm, pitch black and heavily raining. I could barely stand up but forced myself to walk a few steps, and after a few minutes I immediately had to bend down low to try and feel less terrible, then I’d walk a few steps again, then I had to crouch low again. I never collapsed or lost consciousness thankfully but I was violently sick on the street and was visibly not well and in my head I kept thinking I was going to drop dead on the street by myself and I was terrified. It lasted for about 20 minutes and I somehow made it home,

To cut a very long and boring story short, it turns out I actually was unwell, I was in vtach at over 200

It suddenly popped into my head the other day and got me thinking how literally nobody helped. I was walking on the pavement on a main residential road and was visibly unwell- admittedly it was late so not like there were loads of people walking about but I definitely passed people, lots of cars, and a few times I was crouched and struggling to walk right in front of peoples living room windows. I know nobody is obligated to help, but I guess it just surprised me that they didn’t? Is it because they thought I was unwell because of drink/drugs or something and didn’t want to get involved? Or just because it was raining and late at night?

tbh partly my fault because I should have just opened my mouth and called out for help, I don’t really know why I didn’t because I remember thinking please please can someone help me, but I think the palpitations were so awful all I could focus on was GET HOME. Maybe my expectations are a bit off but would others have expected someone to help? Thankfully feeling a lot better now and hopefully I’ll never be in that situation again needless to say!

OP posts:
Frannyisreading · 12/01/2026 19:05

I'm so sorry this happened OP.
I agree with other posters, people probably were scared to help for all sorts of reasons.
I fell last year, was bleeding quite a lot and a young man stopped to help but I could see he was really nervous to come near me. This was in daylight in a pedestrian area but he was still very unsure of coming close and left as soon as he could (when I said I was ok). For all I know he might be scared of me making an allegation against him. I did wonder if he thought i could be drunk or on drugs as well. Or scared of something transferred by body fluids. It is quite a risk to stop and help isn't it?

Namechangetry · 12/01/2026 18:52

My old (female) boss was biking home when she found a teenage boy lying in the path. She stopped and called out asking if he was ok and was promptly shoved off her bike by another boy, punched and left on the ground. Police said it was likely a gang initiation. That made me a LOT less likely to help someone who seems ill in the street. Glad you're ok now OP.

nomas · 12/01/2026 18:35

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 17:23

I stand by what i said, you weren't dying. Proven by the fact you didn't die

Not everyone dying, dies.

That’s why it’s called ‘dying’, not ‘dead’.

When your phone battery is going down, what do you call it? Your phone is dying, right?

nomas · 12/01/2026 18:33

How old are you, OP? I’m surprised you found this out now.

I learnt this lesson aged 19, I was ill standing up in the middle of a train to the point of fainting, no one helped, no one offered a seat. That’s when I realised I need to be able to get help myself.

Winterburn · 12/01/2026 18:27

It sounds quite odd behaviour… walking a bit, crouching down, walking again, crouching down. In the dark and rain, likely with your hood up. Honestly it would probably have turned people away from you.

Sometimes intervening in these situations can go wrong for the person wanting to help.

Nikki87ha · 12/01/2026 18:23

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 16:33

I don't have a medical degree.
I didn't google.

The op said she knew she was dying, but she wasn't.

She might have felt like she was, that's different.

You know someone can be actively about to die and can be saved from medical intervention so could indeed feel like they were dying because they are ya fanny

DoubleHardBastard · 12/01/2026 18:17

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 17:23

I stand by what i said, you weren't dying. Proven by the fact you didn't die

Thank for the laugh 😂.

You're really not very bright if you think that to be dying you have to actually die 😂.

Glasgowgal200 · 12/01/2026 18:17

I slipped on some black ice and there was a older man passing and he stopped to look at me but offered no help or even asked if I was ok. Managed to stand up and move to pavement and I had hurt my foot/ankle and was visibly limping but still nothing from the man😤😤😤😤😤

JohnTheRevelator · 12/01/2026 18:09

Unfortunately that is the way so many people are nowadays. When I fell over in the street a couple of years ago (tripped on a slightly raised paving stone) several people swerved around me rather than asking if I was OK. I couldn't get up without help as I have arthritis in my hips and knees. After a couple of minutes of sitting on the pavement a very nice man stopped and helped me up. Similar thing happened to my adult DD a week ago. She slipped on an icy patch coming out of a shop, nearly did the splits. Nobody stopped to help her at all!

Katemax82 · 12/01/2026 18:06

When I saw a woman collapse at the train station she was at the end with no ther people but the platform was busy down my end. I went over with my 6 month old in his pram and she was proper unconscious. I ran back to get help just as my friend and her soldier husband were coming to meet me. They went to check her and I got staff involved. My friends husband checked her bag for medication and a half bottle of vodka was in it
An older couple who had come over to have a nose saw iit and gutted, turned to walk away saying "there's her problem right there, don't bother with her" (or words to that affect). It's like she didn't matter because she may have been drunk. An ambulance came luckily

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 12/01/2026 17:56

Either they thought you were drunk
Or they thought it was a trap.

I was asked to help someone (just to stay while the ither person got help) and my first thought wasn't " oh yes of course" , it was "like hell. I'll be robbed before I can ask what's up"

I had to wait with my car on a fairly busy road as I waited for breakdown. Pulled over out of the way , put the boot up and the hazard lights on. Nobody even wound the window down and asked "are you okay "? I was wearing an NHS white tunic in the middle of the day (I didn't think I looked threatening !)

Though there has been another time an older man asked if I was ok ( I reassured him I had AA cover )

People are scared . Or uncaring

Mintybreath · 12/01/2026 17:46

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 17:23

I stand by what i said, you weren't dying. Proven by the fact you didn't die

Like you said yourself, you don’t have a medical degree :)

OP posts:
EmeraldShamrock000 · 12/01/2026 17:29

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 12/01/2026 16:41

Its a psychological phenomenon called "bystander apathy".

Kitty Genovese was murdered in a courtyard surrounded by a large number if apartments. Everybody left it for somebody else to call for help ... nobody did.
You need to take action yourself if this happens again.

Oh wow. That is horrendous.
i think it’ll be worse in the future as younger people have learned to watch and record the incident before acting, if acting.

Seeing the video footage from the Swiss bar far shocked me, thinking where is the survival instinct over catching a good video of the ceiling on fire.

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 17:23

Mintybreath · 12/01/2026 13:17

I stand by what I said, you sound ridiculous and clearly don’t know what you’re talking about

unstable vtach is dying, you are quite literally in a fatal rhythm and you will die if it doesn’t stop (either by itself, or by medication or shocking)

I stand by what i said, you weren't dying. Proven by the fact you didn't die

Jolouhan · 12/01/2026 17:11

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 13:07

Exactly, the feeling of doom, but she wasn't dying.

If you're dying you die!

If you’re dying you die - Very true, unless the thing you’re dying of is reversible and they receive treatment for it.

You could take almost any medical area as an example here but let’s go blood loss because it’s simple. You’re in a car accident and cut an artery. It bleeds heavily. If it continues to bleed for a few minutes you’re dead. Therefore, for those few minutes you’re dying. If someone arrives and puts pressure on the wound, a tourniquet on, air ambulance replace the blood and fly you to hospital, you live. Does that mean that for those few minutes you weren’t dying before interventions saved your life? Just because someone didn’t die doesn’t mean they weren’t, at some point dying.

If your heart stops, you’re dead. If you are successfully revived it doesn’t take back the fact that you were, for a short time clinically dead.

Jolouhan · 12/01/2026 17:00

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 09:31

basically I was walking home and suddenly felt extremely unwell- like I knew I was dying.

But you weren't dying were you!

Heart rates over 200 (lower than that actually) are extremely unstable and can be fatal pretty quickly. I’m an ED nurse & if someone arrived in my dept we would have them in the resuscitation room immediately- pretty much only someone with ongoing CPR or an airway obstruction would be of higher priority….

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 12/01/2026 16:41

Its a psychological phenomenon called "bystander apathy".

Kitty Genovese was murdered in a courtyard surrounded by a large number if apartments. Everybody left it for somebody else to call for help ... nobody did.
You need to take action yourself if this happens again.

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 16:33

Nikki87ha · 12/01/2026 15:00

just for reference you really are a massive tit. The google medical degree is doing nothing for you here.

I don't have a medical degree.
I didn't google.

The op said she knew she was dying, but she wasn't.

She might have felt like she was, that's different.

Foodylicious · 12/01/2026 15:03

Whatever the reason people don't help, it does make you feel a bit rubbish.
It happend to me twice in my early 20s.
Once I ran for the train after giving blood, literally only ran the length of the train, but was really dizzy and spent the 10-15 minute journey alternating between crouching down and trying to stand up. Not one person asked if I was okay or if I needed to sit down.
There were a few of us stood in the same area. I'd been able to keep track of where we were, so got up to get off the train and started to collapse. Two people lifted me up under the arms, walked/carried me off the train to the bench on the platform, then got back on the train. I don't remember them saying a word.
Someone walking past saw what had happened and came to see if I was okay and sat with me a bit.
I was so embarrassed, and couldnt see for a little while, everything was just white.
Thankfully I only lived 5 mins walk away, so after about half an hour I walked home (and felt like shit for the rest of the day, might have been one of the last times I gave blood).

The 2nd time I ended up crouching down at the counter, then lying down, in the pharmacy opposite my Dr's surgery.
I wasn't well and had just come out of an appt.
I literally had people ignore me and one person stepped over me to get served. Then leave.
Not long after the person working behind the counter noticed me on the floor and helped me to a chair.

I could only presume that on both occasions people thought drugs or drunk and didnt want to get involed.
Still pretty shitty though.

Nikki87ha · 12/01/2026 15:00

IwishIcouldconfess · 12/01/2026 13:07

Exactly, the feeling of doom, but she wasn't dying.

If you're dying you die!

just for reference you really are a massive tit. The google medical degree is doing nothing for you here.

Andafriedeggontheside · 12/01/2026 14:51

I would not go NEAR anyone who was vomiting in the street, anything else I would have absolutely helped.

MauveExpert · 12/01/2026 14:43

It’s awful people assuming they shouldn’t help if it’s drug or alcohol related though. I once saw a young lad (looked like a freshers student), walking up a busy road falling about and being sick. I was in a taxi in a rush to catch a train so couldn’t stop but my taxi driver promised to go back and check and ring an ambulance if needed.
I always worried about that young lad if he was ok.

I’ve rang the police a couple of times in the past - once there was a young boy passed out in the park first thing one morning, another was a man fast asleep, drunk, in my stair.

Id always help people, no matter what may have caused them to be ill. I always think of their relatives worrying about them

Thegreysareshowing · 12/01/2026 14:32

I’m sorry OP. People probably assumed you were drunk/on drugs.

I had a situation where I came over ill really suddenly and can absolutely relate to the just focussing on trying to get home. I was changing trains between a tube and mainline and got the most crippling intermittent tummy pains (not like diarrhoea), more all-consuming like contractions. By the time I’d got a few yards out of the station, I was leaning against a wall, trying to ignore my heart racing and feeling faint. When the crippling pains would pause for some seconds, I’d take a few more steps, thinking I’ll be at the station soon, worst case I can ask for help there. It was a Sunday afternoon, so station was unstaffed and I hadn’t considered that. I slumped to the floor. I was helped by another waiting passenger, managed to whisper contact to call to collect me. I too was ill - it was the start of long covid for me and I knew nothing then about exertion leading to crashes and my personal physical manifestations of that. Unfortunately neither did my doctor, so I now have panic attacks on my health record. I’d hope I’d ask someone for help in the future, but it’s not always easy in the moment.

BillieWiper · 12/01/2026 14:19

limetrees32 · 12/01/2026 14:12

@BillieWiper I'm guessing you've never been in a similar situation?
I have , because of surgery on my stomach I sometimes suddenly become unwell.
For me , and I expect the OP and others, when you suddenly feel very unwell you can't think straight.
In an effort to hold myself together , like the OP,I often focus on one thing - usually it's trying to stay upright and not collapse .
You'd be amazed how your ability to be rational., to sit down , to call for help , disappears .
Find your phone , unlock it , decide to call 999 and answer all the questions?
Absolutely no chance.
I do stop and offer help but sadly have too frequently been ignored as the OP was.

I think you @ the wrong poster. I described at the very beginning of my post being in a similar situation and have done many times. And had great sympathy and understanding for OP.

JDM625 · 12/01/2026 14:13

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