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To think this is too much for a 30th?

117 replies

Savante · 11/01/2026 16:05

I’ve got a friend who I’ve been friends with since university. There are four of us who are still in touch. This friend is 30 this time next year and asked if we want to go away for the weekend to Scotland to celebrate. I agreed.

However, friend has now decided she wants to go abroad. She’s found huge self catering villa in Italy and it’s stunning. It sleeps 20, and if full would cost us £200 each plus about £250 for flights. Everyone has happily agreed but AIBU to think it’s a bit much for a 30th? For a hen or a 50th or a wedding, of course, but I think it’s a lot of money to spend on someone’s birthday for a weekend away with her friends and family who I’ve never met (except her parents and one sibling).

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Savante · 11/01/2026 18:26

Throwanon · 11/01/2026 18:22

Right but why is a 30 year old going to wait until 50 or 60 before celebrating their birthday as a big occasion? Like that’s potentially twice their life to date? They might not even make it to 50 or 60, seems fairly joyless to not expect them to do much to mark the occasion.

I didn’t say she shouldn’t mark it, at all.

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Savante · 11/01/2026 18:24

Jinglejells · 11/01/2026 18:22

How does she get away with not reciprocating? Surely the others in the group notice that too?

They do, amd we speak to her, and she acknowledges that she gets carried away with what’s happening in her life and she’ll definitely make more effort. I think she’s probably means it when she says it too. It doesn’t last.

But birthdays and serious personal issues are thankfully rare so it doesn’t come up very often.

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Throwanon · 11/01/2026 18:22

Savante · 11/01/2026 17:55

I’ve always thought of 50th and 60th as bigger birthdays than 30 or 40 for some reason.

Right but why is a 30 year old going to wait until 50 or 60 before celebrating their birthday as a big occasion? Like that’s potentially twice their life to date? They might not even make it to 50 or 60, seems fairly joyless to not expect them to do much to mark the occasion.

Savante · 11/01/2026 18:22

DecafSoyaLatteExtraShotPlease · 11/01/2026 18:19

What do you get out of this friendship? Because so far, it doesn't seem like much. Friendship length does not determine quality

She is fantastic company most of the time. The constant big event for her birthday, barely an acknowledgement on ours, and ignorance of anything big going on in our lives that doesn’t affect her is a long standing issue which I’ve had conversations with her about.

But 90% of the time she’s great company.

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Jinglejells · 11/01/2026 18:22

How does she get away with not reciprocating? Surely the others in the group notice that too?

Savante · 11/01/2026 18:19

TheaBrandt1 · 11/01/2026 18:18

Sounds like you pretty much hate her so best you don’t go!

Always one.

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DecafSoyaLatteExtraShotPlease · 11/01/2026 18:19

What do you get out of this friendship? Because so far, it doesn't seem like much. Friendship length does not determine quality

TheaBrandt1 · 11/01/2026 18:18

Sounds like you pretty much hate her so best you don’t go!

ClareBlue · 11/01/2026 18:18

Sounds like you friendship might be running it's course. She's organised something completely that she wants, which is fine, but is making that the focus for all your birthday celebrations this year. The way you say she wouldn't reciprocate any of this and would make it known you have slighted her if you didn't go is indicating there might be history with her always being the centre of things. Is this irking you a bit. Do you think this might be a tipping point for your friendship.
Make the decision for you and if she gives out about it then use it as a time to rethink what you are getting out of the friendship.

Savante · 11/01/2026 18:16

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 11/01/2026 18:12

does she see herself as a queen bee of the group? Rather rude re your birthdays!

No, I don’t think it’s that. I think she can be extremely self-obsessed though.

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Dfhglksc · 11/01/2026 18:14

Not a chance I would go with a large bunch of people I don't know.
You don't owe her a weekend where you are making up numbers.

TwillTrousers · 11/01/2026 18:12

Thing is in Edinburgh you are at your destination once you get off the train. Italy also means transport to and from airports and sourcing food and drink. I think there will be more hidden costs. As well as all the extra travelling time.
Which is fine, but I’d be disappointed about how short a time it is for all that money and travel.

333FionaG · 11/01/2026 18:12

I would go because I love Italy, and £450 is affordable for me.
If you don't want to go for whatever reason, just make your excuses and decline the invitation.

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 11/01/2026 18:12

Savante · 11/01/2026 17:48

It’s not with my friends though. It’s with her friends and family who I don’t know.

I know I could say no but it would be taken as a major slight. It’s all of our 30th next year, and I know that this will, for her, be considered to be the group’s major celebration and she’ll barely acknowledge ours.

does she see herself as a queen bee of the group? Rather rude re your birthdays!

Savante · 11/01/2026 18:12

Nn9011 · 11/01/2026 18:03

Is she married? Has she ever been celebrated like this for anything else? I think it's not unreasonable to want to celebrate your big birthday like this and 450 is not unreasonable.

Is it a case you can't afford it and would have to give up a family holiday or just you don't want to do it?

Has she gone to events for you? Celebrated your wedding etc?

Without knowing all of this I haven't voted but I think life is about celebrating our friends and family and it shouldn't always be a wedding or a baby that we do that for. We also need to show up in ways we'd want them to show up for us.

She has major and expensive events for everything and she very rarely reciprocates. That is definitely colouring my view.

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Iocanepowder · 11/01/2026 18:11

Life is short and shit. I barely have a low now with little kids. I say celebrate anything whenever you get a chance.

sweetpickle2 · 11/01/2026 18:10

She can choose to celebrate her birthday however she likes. Just like you can choose not to go if you don’t want to or can’t afford it.

RecordBreakers · 11/01/2026 18:09

I know I could say no but it would be taken as a major slight. It’s all of our 30th next year, and I know that this will, for her, be considered to be the group’s major celebration and she’ll barely acknowledge ours.

Sounds like you aren't that keen on her anyway, so nothing lost by saying "Thanks for asking, but no thanks" or "I can't make that, but hope you have a great time" or something similar.

Anyone who is offended by people not being able to make what would be a big ask, is not really worth worrying about in terms of them being upset.

Absolutely nothing wrong with her choosing to do this for her birthday, but equally, no-one can seriously expect 20 people to want to
a) go for a short break to Italy
and
b) go away as part of a group of 20 people
and
c) go away with people they don't know well or don't know at all
and
d) have enough annual leave and be able to use the annual leave then
and
e) have the money to spare (because, lets be honest this is going to end up being closer to £1K than £450 pp)
f) even if they have the money in their bank account, choose to prioritise this break over other things they might be saving for
so if she takes offense at any of the invitees not being able to go, she doesn't sound like someone I would be worried about offending.

Savante · 11/01/2026 18:08

itsthetea · 11/01/2026 17:21

Yabu in that it shouldn’t matter what the occasion if people want to meet up and have a party and some fun

You also haven’t said how much more expensive it was than the Scotland weekend - 3 nights in a premier inn would easily be over 200 and 200 for a train ticket so the devils in the detail

It would never be £200 for the train for us.

It probably would’ve been about £200 each. My main issue isn’t even really the money. Ive realised it’s being asked to pay £450 for a holiday with this friend’s friends and family on top of an abroad hen and wedding all in the next two years too. I know it would not be reciprocated. I also know that if I say no, it’ll be taken as a slight. I wouldn’t get away with saying I can’t afford it. I will have a think about it before I commit.

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Gahr · 11/01/2026 18:05

Savante · 11/01/2026 17:58

This is my main point. Perhaps I haven’t made it well. It’s not a break with my friends any more, it’s a trip with her family and friends. £450 to go away on holiday with company you choose is different for me to going with a load of people you haven’t met.

Oh, that's totally valid, sorry I missed that point. No, aside from one or two old friends whose families I'm close with, I wouldn't want to party with parents. That would be weird.

Nn9011 · 11/01/2026 18:03

Is she married? Has she ever been celebrated like this for anything else? I think it's not unreasonable to want to celebrate your big birthday like this and 450 is not unreasonable.

Is it a case you can't afford it and would have to give up a family holiday or just you don't want to do it?

Has she gone to events for you? Celebrated your wedding etc?

Without knowing all of this I haven't voted but I think life is about celebrating our friends and family and it shouldn't always be a wedding or a baby that we do that for. We also need to show up in ways we'd want them to show up for us.

Geranium1984 · 11/01/2026 17:59

Sounds like a fun trip and it's not OTT expensive. So, it's up to whether you'd want to go. Enjoy time with your friends!

Myself and all my friends are hitting the 40 stage and we all have small children, and have more constrained budgets, so there haven't been any big celebrations. Certainly no trips away! Enjoy it while you can and your still young :)

Gahr · 11/01/2026 17:59

Savante · 11/01/2026 17:55

I’ve always thought of 50th and 60th as bigger birthdays than 30 or 40 for some reason.

Why? That makes no sense. The only 'decade' birthday which is less than the others is 20, because it is bracketed by 18 and 21. The others are all equally milestones.
My 40th was a huge bash. Most 50ths are not IME. The only place where 50 is a big deal is the Netherlands, where turning 50 is called an Abraham birthday for a man and a Sarah for a woman, for some reason. It's A Thing there, but that's the only place I know of where that's the case.

Savante · 11/01/2026 17:58

sundayvibeswig22 · 11/01/2026 16:54

My main issue is that I wouldn’t want to go away with her family. That’s not a girls trip. I’d happily pay the money though.

This is my main point. Perhaps I haven’t made it well. It’s not a break with my friends any more, it’s a trip with her family and friends. £450 to go away on holiday with company you choose is different for me to going with a load of people you haven’t met.

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Gahr · 11/01/2026 17:58

I've said YABU. Not because it's at all unreasonable to be unable to afford something, or just to choose not to spend that money. However, YABU to say that it's a big ask for a milestone birthday, but not for a hen do or anniversary. If anything, I would be more inclined to pay a large sum for a birthday than to celebrate an anniversary!