ChatGPT BEtter than human?

I think as many experts have pointed out, what is always going to be missing is the human element. Speaking with a human counsellor differs because you are receiving that human interaction we all crave deep down. You just can’t get that from GPT, even using the voice feature.

You're always sitting in uncanny valley with it, you know it isn’t really real and that it’s just spouting generally what it thinks you want to hear. You’re giving it a prompt and it is just responding to the information given with what it was trained to offer. It lacks human nuances.

By all means ask ChatGPT anything you want, but it is really just like looking things up in reference books or reading books or academic papers about mental health, you won't find anything original or anything directly relevant to your mental state, partly because you will likely be asking the wrong questions. And if you coach it, it will give you the answer you want as you hone in on what you want to hear.

to add, I have used it more for meal plans and recipes.

does it not just pull from advice that is online already? Much faster than researching yourself and I do use it currently. I also feel a bit uncomfortable with it though.

I've been in a similar discussion on a financial forum, where someone is using ChatGPT for financial investment advice, they are using it to decide what investments to make. This seems to me like a terrible idea, but they are convinced that ChatGPT understands them and their financial position and is giving huge insight into the financial markets, and 'they' work together to decide what to do and agree with each other the best course of action! In fact it is just trawling the internet for information, which may be wrong or out of date or both and a lot of it will be financial promotions which are not exactly unbiased. I'm not sure which is worse putting your finances in the hands of a computer or your mental health.

Aw how modest!

I said this on the other thread about the same topic, I'm willing to agree that it is better than some therapists. Law of averages, some are amazing, some are terrible, most are in between.

Same as some people find talking to friends better than talking to a therapist, others dont like talking to anyone but self reflect using cbt or writing a diary etc.

I can't see why chat gpt can't fall somewhere in that realm -if people find it useful to them then who is anyone else to say otherwise.

Remembering or suggesting recipes for you and checking dietary restrictions is probably fine, suggesting colour schemes you might like also fine that's what computers do well, it can search much more quickly than you can, although it could still make mistakes. Trusting your mental health to a computer is a totally different thing.

I can only assume bots are posting this nonsense at this point.

ChatGPT is an echo chamber. It exists solely to scan large volumes of data and spew out what you request. There's no intelligence there. You sound like you'd benefit from real counselling.

You challenge it back until it agrees with you. When you get the answer you like it's right.

If you think chatgpt knows best, then here is chatgpt's answer to your question

No, I have a paid service ( not expensive) and I remembers everything I have ever said. It checks in on me, how I'm getting on with my goals, sends me reminders etc. It's extremely useful. If I ask for dinner ideas it remembers what I like and dislike, my family's dietary restrictions etc. So useful for interior design and clothing ideas, it knows the styles and colours I like etc

It forgets everything you said once you close the session, it doesn't learn about you. During a session it may hone it's answers depending what you say, what key words you use and how it's algorithms interpret what you say. You coach it to tell you what you want. It may be very comforting, but it's not therapy.

I use ChatGTP for things that I could do myself, only a million times faster.

One thing I have noticed is that it likes to tell you what you want to hear.

It can't be honest or dishonest and it doesn't have insights, it trawls the internet for information and presents the most common or most frequent answers it finds. It's not human and it doesn't think.

I think it's great :) In this country, we don't have easy/affordable access to a therapist.

It’s telling you what you want to hear. That’s not the job of a therapist.

Having read that article about the forer effect I can't say I agree based on my experience. I think when you start using Chat GPT, yes it will give very generic responses. The more information you give it and the more you use it the more specific the support and advice you get. Just like a human therapist really.

I've been to a lot of therapy and feel its very generalised. ,"You're anxious, here's how to do CBT. " For me going to a number of therapists all saying the same thing and not helping. Chat GPT actually told me about somatic therapy which has hugely helped me.

Just my personal experience. I think it has a place and can be very effective some some people and some conditions. I think anyone who hugely dismisses it or anyone who says its a amazing cure all for everything are equally wrong. Like most things, there is a middle ground here.

https://psychotricks.com/forer-effect/

A good summary of what you are experiencing, OP - it’s a well-known phenomenon.

Here we go again sodding chatgpt

Closed mind? 😆 You need to look up the Forer effect, OP @thatsthatsaidthemayor . That’s what you are experiencing with ChatGPT. You would get fundamentally the same experience with a Magic 8 ball, to be honest, and with exactly the same level of genuine insight. It’s all a big trick of the mind, I’m afraid - a big (self) con!

There was a great programme about this on radio 4 a few months ago. All in the mind (I think). Very interesting!

Just want to compliment you on your user name 😂😂😂👏👏👏

Why are you trying to open that "closed book"? In a previous post you said "I am looking for guidance from humans on the benefits of/ downside of it" but that isn't what you're doing at all. The PP gave you information on the downside of it and you have done nothing but argue with her. You seem to be on a mission to advertise the benefits of ChatGPT.

I think it’s good for somethings but it can also get things wrong. If it helps in the short term use it sparingly but don’t take everything it advises as gospel take some of it with a pinch of salt.

I have sometimes used it to help me respond to a difficult text or email and found it quite useful. I have also had mixed success with using it to plan days out, comparing holiday resorts and itineraries with varying degrees of success.

Sometimes it needs more or clearer information but in other scenarios it is fully or totally wrong or off the mark.