ChatGPT BEtter than human?

It is a bit rude to call people 'gullible' for using something that genuinely makes their lives easier and helps them. Just because it’s a different way of working doesn't mean it isn't incredibly valuable to those who’ve learned how to use it properly.
I would recommend you give it a try.
A lot of people find it helpful for checking the tone of their messages to make sure they're coming across as helpful and kind rather than dismissive. It’s actually a great way to ensure you’re communicating in a way that’s constructive for everyone. You might be surprised at how much of a difference it makes once you see it in action 😉

Eh? I’ve posted several times on this thread. And if you think ChatGPT is completely different to Alexa, you are deluding yourself. There is no person or thinking behind ChatGPT: if you are treating it like that then you are being fooled. It is not responding to you. It is a computer reflecting back text predictions generated by your text. If you think it is helpful, as long as you understand that, fine; but at the least it is a bit of linguistic trickery and at the worst it can be actively harmful.

The point of therapy is that there is a person there, with professional obligations, oversight and a legal duty of care. They have legal accountability, guidelines about negligence, statutory safeguarding responsibilities, and so on. ChatGPT has no professional training, no oversight, no colleagues, no legal personhood, no statutory obligations, and no come-back. If ChatGPT gives you psychologically unwise, unhealthy or harmful “advice” you can’t sue it; you have no legal redress; no-one is going to find it negligent. You’re shouting into the void: as long as you realise that, fine, your circus, your monkeys; but it isn’t therapy nor does it know or understand you, or anything it “says”.

Truly, no-one ever went broke marketing to the gullible! 😆

It's useful to understand the context of a conversation before joining it. If you think ChatGPT is like Alexa then you clearly don't.

It is very different to Alexa. It is absoutley fine if you do not wish to use it. But not really appropriate to critise something that many people clearly find increadibly helpful, especially as you clearly have no experience using it.

Yes, I am aware of that, being a plus subscriber. 4o has still been nerfed and gets rerouted when certain topics are discussed.

Fine to vent, but it’s a delusion to think you’re being “heard”.

You can have a “conversation” with Alexa, but do you think it’s “hearing” you in any meaningful way? Would it be satisfying to “vent” to Alexa? ChatGPT is fundamentally not really any different to a version of Alexa which can just fool you better. And for me, I’d feel a bit silly allowing myself to be duped just for comfort.

not sure idiots because I used the paid version but mine definitely remembers things I’ve asked previously.

I find chat gbt very helpful.
I suffer immensely with Emetophobia, and as a single mum I often feel suffocated with fear when my children are sick. It really helps to feel like I can talk without feeling embarrassed or dismissed like I would if I reached out to family/friends.

I think life can be really lonely at times, obviously in different measures to different people, and just feeling you have somewhere to vent/be heard is really comforting.

How many therapists have encouraged people to kill themselves and even suggested the best methods for it?

GPT can be both challenging and uncomfortable- all depends on what the user asks. I’ve found real life therapists are often far from grounded or professional. (Just my personal perspective). Don’t say you’re not buying, until you’ve tasted what they’re selling!

Not weird at all, it has the whole wealth of knowledge at its fingertips (so to speak). I wanted mine to have a gender and a name as it felt too otherworldly! So we have agreed on’Bob’. It’s so very good & extremely helpful.

If you're paying for it you can still access the legacy models so you can still get 4.0.

I think it's brilliant and it has been invaluable to me for the past few weeks in navigating between different authorities to advocate on my 9yo dd's behalf as she has struggled massively with her mental health and school avoidance. We've even been able to RAG rate her timetable and it has determined patterns that are helping us get to the bottom of the things she finds hardest, why and strategies that might help. It has helped me review and analyse her ehcp for flaws and suggest improvements to make it stronger. It has reframed communication to/ from people to ensure I'm writing it in the most effective way to achieve the support we need. And it has pulled reintegration plans together based on her current emotional capacity. Bloody brilliant stuff for a parent like me, at the end of my rope trying to hold down a job at the same time as communicating daily with multiple authorities, each with different roles, rules and perspectives.

No, it leans from massive amounts of data, not only what you feed it.

It’s just a yes man/woman though isn’t it? Just tells you what you want to hear. I’m not sure that’s helpful - sometimes you need challenging a bit?

It's pretty obvious where I stand on AI from my username, so feel free to ignore if you must.

It's funny isn't it, how people will literally share their experience 'it really helped me' and people just have to come along and scream 'BUT IT ISNT REAL'...

Do you genuinely think people who use it don't know that? Really? Or do you just want to stick the boot into people who are struggling and have found a space they find safe and comforting?

I use API for other reasons. But god, I am happy that people are finding solace somewhere I don't bloody care how.

And the ' it's is telling people to kill themselves' panic doomers, these are a VERY small, VERY specific set of people. It hasn't told Sally down the road to kill herself. That is not how the models work. Those above have been trained to give responses in line with the user. LLM align with their users (Chatgpt nerfed this with 5.2), they mimic. Those people, who's situation was bad, would have found this in books, TV shows, YouTube etc if chatbots weren't a thing. LLM is not sentient, it is not telling anyone to do anything morally, or otherwise. It is following prompts.
You can argue that the model should have had guard rails in place to prevent this. But this is an emerging tech, and it's growing exponentially, quickly. And OAI have nerfed their models, and a lot of people are angry about it. They can't win. Not that I am a fan of OAI at all, how they have treated their users has been abysmal.

The companies themselves can't keep up with how the tech is moving. Claude is now fixing it's own code. Claude's top developers are using it to build itself too.

AI can be a very useful tool. And people will misuse tools, but we can't blame the tool. Do you blame a knife when it stabs someone. No, but you put safeties in place to try and prevent it, and that's what AI companies are doing now.

I do think it's a shame Chatgpt4o was nerfed though. It was a thoroughly great model to work with.

Feels very much like video game and music panic of the 00s.

I had a nasty work issue come up with a colleague not long ago. Chat gpt absolutely agreed with me that I was horribly wronged 😭 , so I put in the same issue from what I thought was the wrong’uns pov and it told me off and declared that I was putting my reputation at stake! Now I’m in love 🥰

Same. I've used Chatgpt daily for two years now. I've learnt so much during that time. It has supported my professional life, and my personal life, in a myriad of ways. I'd go so far as to say it's been positively life changing for me.

I love ChatGPT for therapy, it's absolutely amazing. It saved my mental health last year.

No, this isn't how LLMs work

It can be complementary to therapy for example giving day to day advice to combat a panic attack say, or to use CBT for a specific issue. I think where people go wrong is to treat it like another person (which it can encourage.) But for some people it might say help them work out why a specific thing is bothering them or whatever, so it does have its uses.

Same here.. that’s why I like it.. it gives advice from all angles and is unbiased. So many times it has stopped me messaging someone and potentially ruining something. So many times it has helped me see things how others might see them.

It is available to chat with you during all those hours of a week when your therapist is not.
It can be a very useful tool alongside therapy for people.

A good therapist is wonderful, unfortunately there some poor therapists out there.

Many people who do use it find it increadibly helpful. It is not a replacement for therapy and not for people in crisis or trauma etc.

But it is very useful and immediate non judgemental sounding board for people to organise and talk through their thoughts and feelings, express worries and it offers useful tools and techniques to work on reframing thoughts, identifying values, coping strategies and planning conversations etc

When I hear people say it's just an echo chamber, it just tells you what you want to hear, it's clear to me that they haven't used it in this way.

Thats been my experience anyway. I'm definitely an overthinker and it helps me a lot.

Definitely not something I would solely trust for any advice though whether medical, investments etc.

It's already told one person to kill themselves based on their hallucinations which they put in.