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To think this is unreasonable?! Or am I out of touch

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Greehsa · 10/01/2026 16:56

Mid thirties with one dc. I have a lot of flexibility with work so I am able to work remotely. My DD goes to nursery but one day a week my parents like me to take her over. It’s a bit of a drive but I work while I am there then finish off anything I’ve not managed to get done in the evening.

When I work on my laptop I need the room to be light otherwise I start to get a headache. My parents have gone mad recently when I’ve tried to put the light on, saying they don’t want the bulbs to go (they’re spotlights), it’s rude for me to turn the lights on etc. Being pretty nasty about it. For context they are not at all short of money (though they claim to be, they’re certainly not), their main issue seems to be that I’m ’telling them what to do in their home.’ I think this is insanely unreasonable?! I’ve explained calmly that when the weather is bad and it’s dull outside that the room isn’t light enough for me to work without getting a headache. I can’t imagine making this much of a fuss with my own DD if she needed to do some work! AIBU?

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aloris · 14/01/2026 01:02

Greehsa · 10/01/2026 18:01

@Redrosesposies i think this is where I struggle, your post makes sense but I would feel eaten up by guilt if I was that blunt about it and actually followed it through. They would say I was affecting DD and it wasn’t fair on her and that I was being dramatic and controlling. I’d then spend hours worrying about it all

They are the ones who are being controlling. You feel the guilt because it's to their advantage for you to feel it, because it gets you to do what they want rather than what's right for you. They are the ones who installed that guilt button so they know how to press it.

Elsvieta · 13/01/2026 22:43

Greehsa · 10/01/2026 17:03

@SparklyGlitterballs I said that to them and they said I was controlling and unreasonable. They prefer DD at their house rather than coming here.

Ok - and what about you? What do you say?

They can say what they like - you don't have to believe it, agree with it or be bullied into submission by it. Don't even respond to it - just repeat that you can work in the light level that you need, or you can not bring your daughter over, and let them choose.

CathyFitzs · 12/01/2026 18:13

Greehsa · 10/01/2026 17:03

@SparklyGlitterballs I said that to them and they said I was controlling and unreasonable. They prefer DD at their house rather than coming here.

But isn’t that controlling and unreasonable of them?!!

blackpooolrock · 12/01/2026 17:24

Is there no seats that you can use by a window so you get more natural light?

I think its bonkers they don't want you to have a light on in a room they aren't in or are using.

Can you not offer them something like £1 for the light being on if they think they are paying for it?

Spirallingdownwards · 12/01/2026 16:41

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 12/01/2026 14:20

But no need for her to be childishly cunty in her response.

And no need for your comments on this thread either but there we go. You have made your choice to make the comments you have, she make her choice to respond how she wishes.

SBGM247 · 12/01/2026 15:42

@Greehsa these are simply amazing and light up my kids bedroom, highly recommend and will fix your prob https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C3BC4QG2

HardyCrow · 12/01/2026 14:49

Lavender14 · 11/01/2026 21:21

Op I think there's a few things here that would make me really consider stepping back. The fact they are nasty about it when they speak to you about the lights, name calling and saying you are unreasonable and controlling when they don't get things their own way, the critiquing of your parenting choices and undermining you as a parent. It all sounds like projection and gaslighting- they are unreasonable and controlling but actually it serves them to make you believe you are so they can get their own way.

None of that is acceptable. I think you need to set different boundaries that serve you better - with work commitments it no longer suits for us to come to you on a Friday and dd will be in nursery. However you are still welcome to visit us here on Sunday afternoons each week (or whatever that looks like).

This

TheFireHorse · 12/01/2026 14:26

Also to add, if my daughter worked from home, I would definitely go to their house.

How long does it take you to pack your laptop, make sure you have all you need, get nappies and toys etc?

I'd go to my daughters, less stress for her. All her work stuff (extra screens etc) would be there and minimum fuss for granddaughter. No long travel.

No OP these don't seem good parents at all!!

TheFireHorse · 12/01/2026 14:23

I think OP this is your first steps of coming out of the FOG.

FOG is an acronym that stands for "Fear, Obligation, and Guilt." These three emotions are often at the core of manipulation and are often how narcissists and other types emotional manipulators go about controlling their targets.

You say there are other examples and as you are now a parent yourself, you may realise that your childhood wasn't as it should have been.

And it may be a shock!

Maybe consider some counselling?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 12/01/2026 14:20

Spirallingdownwards · 12/01/2026 14:11

But not as cunty as her parents are being though.

But no need for her to be childishly cunty in her response.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 12/01/2026 14:13

Greehsa · 10/01/2026 17:07

@Stompythedinosaur yes, I get the guilt trip then that I’m not letting DD have a relationship with them, it’s a shame she’s in nursery all week and so on

You cannot win, either they allow you use the light or you don’t visit. That’s wild. I’d bring a lamp and head torch to protect their precious 💡

Spirallingdownwards · 12/01/2026 14:11

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 12/01/2026 13:58

That really is a bit passive aggressive/cunty

But not as cunty as her parents are being though.

QuietLifeNoDrama · 12/01/2026 14:05

@MyrtlethePurpleTurtle I don’t really see how you came to this conclusion OP already said she works FULL time so yes she does need to work whilst she’s there. She also said that her parents don’t live close by. The current trip means that she has to catch up on work later that evening so presumably her leaving DD with her parents and making the journey twice will eat into even more of her working day.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 12/01/2026 13:58

Spirallingdownwards · 10/01/2026 19:15

Guilt trip them back. It is such a shame that you won't be able to build a bond with your grandchild because I am unable to work in an unlit environment but that's the choice you (GP) are making. I will see you perhaps in the summer when the natural light may be better.

That really is a bit passive aggressive/cunty

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 12/01/2026 13:56

CarefullyCuratedFurniture · 10/01/2026 17:03

Of course they are being ridiculous, but you are a bit as well. Do you HAVE to work when you take DD over there, or could you leave her with them for a half day?

Yep, this - think both parents and OP are being unreasonable

Stanthedog15 · 12/01/2026 11:25

Ask them to come to your home. they can take her out. Or If they have her overnight. Then you have all day and night

HAPPILYMARRIEDSINCE2012 · 12/01/2026 10:37

Greehsa · 11/01/2026 13:47

@SameShitDifferentDate They’d make me feel awful saying I didn’t care about thei relationship with DD, I’m forcing DD to be in nursery full time when she doesn’t need to do. And things like that.

But you do need her to be in nursery as they can't take care of her all the time and also want you to bring her to them instead of coming to you to make it easier. They are the ones in the wrong.

Worralorra · 12/01/2026 10:36

Also - led bulbs have a longer life than “normal” bulbs - mine are 20-year life!

Worralorra · 12/01/2026 10:33

If their spotlights are not led, and there are a lot of them, they may well be concerned at the cost: my kitchen had 10 x 40-watt bulbs when it was refitted. I changed them to led bulbs at 4-watts each - maybe offer to replace their bulbs with led ones (WARM WHITE - or it’ll look like a morgue🤣) if that’s the issue… and pull the optician trick as PP have said, too!

ThatAgileRosePanda · 12/01/2026 10:15

Why don’t you bring a desk lamp with you?

HardyCrow · 12/01/2026 09:41

SarahAndQuack · 10/01/2026 17:11

The problem is, whether or not you've paid for nursery, they are providing you with childcare.

In your situation I wouldn't feel especially delighted or grateful, because you're doing all the running here, but people tend to see things from their own perspective.

Not really. They are causing op a lot more hassle. Their behaviour is odd. She is already paying for child care. They are being unreasonable.

HardyCrow · 12/01/2026 09:31

vanillalattes · 10/01/2026 17:01

Stop going over there.

This. If they want you to take your child out of nursery one day a week to see them. Tell them that you work 5 days a week and they will need to come and collect her and return her at whatever time you think is appropriate. They are being disrespectful of your job and you.

Dfhglksc · 11/01/2026 22:40

OP, you have been so ground down by them for so long, where you are always wrong, that you have difficulty seeing what screams out at us readers.
Your parents are not particularly nice or kind.
They want everything on their terms and are prepared to be nasty about it.
I would think that you are in such deep FOG, fear, Obligation and guilt via your rearing that your conditioning by them makes it really hard for you to accept.
I would be very wary of their influence on your child considering how comfortable they are being quite nasty to you about this.
I certainly would pull back from this weekly obligation and make it a monthly trip.

MyBrightPeer · 11/01/2026 22:38

You pay for nursery and take your daughter out a day just so they can see her and have to do all the legwork to get her that? Stuff that. If they want to see her, they can come to you.

MaddestGranny · 11/01/2026 22:31

Greehsa · 10/01/2026 18:01

@Redrosesposies i think this is where I struggle, your post makes sense but I would feel eaten up by guilt if I was that blunt about it and actually followed it through. They would say I was affecting DD and it wasn’t fair on her and that I was being dramatic and controlling. I’d then spend hours worrying about it all

It sounds like you are completely used to being bullied and emotionally blackmailed by your (unreasonable) parents. Have they been doing this for the whole of your life? As an adult with your own family, it's time to learn how to stand up to this sort of emotional bullying. There's plenty of Assertiveness Training material online (e.g. How To Say No; "Broken Record", etc) if you don't want one-to-one work at the moment. But, quite honestly, it'd be money well spent to have a half-dozen sessions with a counsellor (look for someone specialising in TA) to help you learn to set and maintain boundaries in an adult:adult way. It's time to put your foot down with your parents - there are ways of learning how to do this effectively without upsetting the apple cart.