AIBU to be anxious about the situation with Greenland?

I think NATO would fall apart and Starmer would try to keep his/our nose clean.

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I don't suppose it would be our decision, if as the op suggests we kick the US out of our country and close their bases. It's like Brexit, we want out of that club, we don't get to decide we want back in again when it suits us.

thats the whole purpose of diplomacy. It's getting a win-win, it's sometimes having to hold our noses and do unmentionable things like invite Trump and his entourage to meet our monarchy. We don't do any of that because we enjoy it. It's part of having to operate on a global stage, tiptoeing round uncomfortable truths in the interest of our safety and security,

We can always reinstate them when the lunatics are no longer in charge.

We Are not unless Putin acts. Don’t worry, and Putin won’t act, as everyone will act back and Russia will fail to exist seconds later, that’s why it’s called a nuclear detterant. The nato countries are just about politics, that’s all.

@ I respectfully disagree. Although he doesn't have the best 'stage prescents' is terrible and his statements are often very ill thought out. I think a lot of his policies are refreshing and make sense. He realizes with the Putin situation a bit of deplomacy and ego stroking can go a long way to prevent the situation for going nuclear,. literally!

What’s the point of worrying if you can’t do anything about it that’s my view you can’t change it

He is absolutely mad enough, and it won't end well. However, I have some hope that he will be assassinated (yes, I really do hope that) or end up in prison (ideally in Mexico, Canada, Greenland or Denmark)

For the UK that would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.

the military bases in situ in this country are highly symbolic of the longstanding partnership between UK and US, which predates Trump by generations and will exist after he has popped his clogs.

the bases with US presence offer us security and protection as well as providing US with strategic advantage. It would do more harm than good to send them packing.

If the US wasn't currently under the absolute dictatorship of Trump that might be the normal run of things.

Political posturing responses are moving moving further and further away as legitimate responses to dealing with Trump as President.

Just as Biden chose not to.

I actually think JD Vance is more dangerous than Trump.

Errr Trump doesn’t tread carefully- ever!

He is treading carefully because he knows all Russia has left is Nuclear weapons. If they are in a position where they have nothing left to.lose they could use them.

I actually find Trump hilarious, he’s a walking meme. You couldn’t make it up- it’s insane, the whole situation.
Of course it’s about the oil.
He’s 80, try not to worry OP there’s nothing us minions can do about it.

🤣You think you can rely on Trump.

The world is a completely different place to that of 1947 when we had a common set of values: a commitment to defend democracy, human rights and the rule of law.

The days of being able to trust and rely on USA have gone. Staggered anybody would actually still be so naive to think Trump USA/ post Trump USA is a country to rely on now.

The US National Security Strategy (NSS), published in December, signals that, for the White House, the above shared endeavour has ended; that much of what the world has taken for granted about America's role is over.

US support for Ukraine began almost four years ago. Trump has spent the past year trying to cancel and wind down as much of that as he possibly can. Ukraine had, thankfully, dealt with most of Russia's ability to actually progress that invasion before Trump took office for his 2nd term.

NATO would instantly dissolve if he invaded Greenland.
We would see plenty of stony faced photos of Macron and Starmer etc. statements of condemnation but then appeals for calm and ultimately it would be a case of the former NATO members deciding not to enter into conflict etc etc that they are working to prevent ww3.

Basically Trump will get away with it unfortunately.

Ttuml could end that war tomorrow, he has chosen not to.

You're kidding, right? Europe cannot protect itself. Do you think Ukraine would be standing up to Russia so well without US money, weapons and expertise?

Of Course he would. Reality is Europe hasn't invested in military as they should and would not be able to protect itself without the US.

Trump would never protect Europe. It’s deluded to think he would. We backed the wrong continent and need to stand up for ourselves with Europe.

Of course not! Why would anyone want the warmonger who's openly threatening war against their allies with no regard for international war, world peace or the obligations of our alliance to become more powerful?

Why would any nato member believe the USA would come to their aid? They are proven to be happy to ignore the terms of the alliance.

The reality is, until there is a change in leadership, that Europe will have to consider how to make ourselves safe with the more trustworthy allies we have.

Um he’s not exactly being a lot of help with Ukraine is he? If Putin decided to be hostile to anybody else in Europe Trump would do the same- sfa. They’re best buds and scratching each others backs.

We need to ditch Brexit and get closer to Europe- pronto!

I think it's absolutely possible and I think it will most likely be done with an agreement with Greenland. If Russia and or China kick off it's going to fall to US help protect Europe so makes sense for Trump to them in the strongest position possible.