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Help with social services and CFA.

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TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 00:14

My 17 year old daughter was sexually abused by a male in november 2025.
She was living with her nan at the time it happened and returned home a week later.
I immediately called the police and my DD stated she wanted to press charges. Legalities began and she did a video interview ect. Bail conditions put in place for this young man and investigation still ongoing.

I have 4 other children and I am currently pregnant. My question, why are social services doing a children's and families assessment? They've checked bedrooms, contacted schools etc etc, im obviously not concerned but I feel as though ive done something wrong? Like im the perpetrator.

Is this standard procedure? Or AIBU and completely stressed for no reason?

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Wheresmybrianat · 10/01/2026 13:46

A CFA is a consent based assessment. This should have been explained to you and you should have signed a consent form for the SW to talk to the school, GP and any other professional.

The assessment itself will look at what support can be offered to your daughter. From what you have said it is likely the outcome will be universal services support and no further intervention from CSC. It’s a useful assessment if you wish to access services in the future. You mentioned you had a child with SEN, they may also be entitled to support through short breaks.

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:43

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:33

Do you mind sharing why they were involved with you?

Honestly i cant understand how her sexual assault has lead to myself and my children being under scrutiny. I totally understand if there were genuine concerns regarding my parenting or children. Ive never had social services involvement, ever. Not that I look down on it but ive never felt the need for that additional support.

Im going to speak to her on monday. Not once was i made aware that this was optional. She came bursting through my door, walking around my property, spoke to my children, one who's special needs, contacted schools and GPs. Im like what the actual fuck. How has this even come about. Yes ive got 5 children and im pregnant but financially we are okay. Life is good. I feel violated.

Absolutely, my daughter was in my ex-husband’s care when she presented at hospital and she couldn’t answer what was actually wrong with her other than to say that it was all my fault
We never did find out what actually the issue was but of course ex-husband was very keen to continue that narrative and I played into his hands by going bloody bananas at him.
Not the child
So then, of course social Services wanted to speak to her when she was discharged back into my care - voluntarily, but with an undertone of if you don’t do this, they’ll be trouble. And that’s where I went wrong. I should’ve just said no because it escalated.
And that then met the threshold when we got to court to discuss Residency for them to instructor section 7 report.
I listened to all of the advice from Mumsnet and everywhere else about how if you’ve got nothing to hide you’ve got nothing to fear
It’s not true if they can’t find anything to put in the report they will literally make shit up
Or make stupid ridiculous comments like your bathroom is too small
The other thing they commented on was mother turned up to the meeting wearing gym wear and carrying a green protein shake. We must monitor the children’s weight going forward.
This was from a social worker who literally must’ve been a size 24. She couldn’t even bend down to get on and off my sofa without doing a forward role. She was so fat.
Naturally, I didn’t dare mention that at any stage of proceedings, You’d like to think the judge has a pair of eyes and could work it out for themselves
No such luck

Anewuser · 10/01/2026 13:41

It’s the same as having a disabled child. Our child was classed as Child in Need, only due to disability- not our parenting. However, for all those years, social services also kept an eye on the siblings to make sure they weren’t negatively affected.

I know it’s easy to say, but try not to worry. Just concentrate on supporting your daughter. How awful for her.

Jellybunny56 · 10/01/2026 13:40

BillieWiper · 10/01/2026 13:38

As a victim, they need to assess her home life and check there aren't any further safeguarding risks. If they did not do this they could be missing large chunks of what her life is like.
Many kids are living in less than suitable situations so they need to protect the vulnerable.
You've done nothing wrong so no need to worry.

This. I appreciate it’s unsettling but it is necessary as part of their safeguarding checks, they would far rather assess 100 families and find 100 totally happy and safe families than reduce the checks and miss 1 who really needed support and intervention. If all is fine you have nothing to worry about x

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:40

Trumpisacunt · 10/01/2026 13:38

What on earth is the op supposed to do if her bloody bathroom is too small ? Hardly helpful unless of course ss have the budget to build an extension with a couple of ensuits...

I pretty much said the same when I read that on my section 7 report

Trumpisacunt · 10/01/2026 13:38

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:13

That’s not true at all.
I probably would’ve refused their intervention, especially as she’s over 16 there’s not a lot they could do.
What’s happened Is somebody has flagged a potential issue ie too many children and you are now on their radar and will be given extremely helpful advice. Like your bathroom is too small etc

What on earth is the op supposed to do if her bloody bathroom is too small ? Hardly helpful unless of course ss have the budget to build an extension with a couple of ensuits...

BillieWiper · 10/01/2026 13:38

As a victim, they need to assess her home life and check there aren't any further safeguarding risks. If they did not do this they could be missing large chunks of what her life is like.
Many kids are living in less than suitable situations so they need to protect the vulnerable.
You've done nothing wrong so no need to worry.

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:37

Buscake · 10/01/2026 13:35

It’s standard practice OP. They need to assess risk to you daughter and to the other children. It’s not a criticism of you. They need to ascertain if needs are being met and if any additional support is needed, you don’t need to worry.

Thank you x

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TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:36

itsgettingweird · 10/01/2026 13:17

How come your DD needs to stop her education?

Ask the SW for support to get DD on a course elsewhere if her choosing. She’s the victim here.

He is - of course by law - innocent until proven guilty but plans to keep her safe shouldn’t include removing her from education or a supportive friendship group.

Support should be about helping her navigate life as she would have prior to assault withe the same outcomes she would have had prior to the assault and support to reach this.

You have a SW so I would use them to ask them “how are you going to support DD to …..”. Put the ball firmly in their court to provide help rather than make some report to stop a defense lawyer ripping her to shreds in court.

Because he has bail conditions they wont allow her in the same vicinity as him. So shes had to leave.

He has admitted his charge but I feel that the police officer felt sorry for him and because he said that he thought she was awake, despite her being asleep, that my daughter wont have a leg to stand on. Even though when confronted by message he admitted that he was confused and when he realised she was asleep and she moved he stopped.

I cant get my head around it

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Buscake · 10/01/2026 13:35

It’s standard practice OP. They need to assess risk to you daughter and to the other children. It’s not a criticism of you. They need to ascertain if needs are being met and if any additional support is needed, you don’t need to worry.

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:34

HarvestMouseandGoldenCups · 10/01/2026 13:31

Because your child was sexually abused… they’re assessing to make sure she is now safe and has the resources and help and a happy home to avoid it happening again and ensure her life isn’t destroyed by it.

You think that children who are sexually abused shouldn’t have interventions?

At what point did I say she shouldn't have help or intervention? Im looking for guidance as to why my other children are under fire.

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TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:33

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:25

Of course you can what they will do is imply to you that if you don’t voluntarily allow this they will go and get a warrant so to speak to forcibly do it if they are so inclined - That’s the worst case scenario.
If they meet the threshold to get a warrant, that’s not what it’s called, but that’s what it means
Then there really is a serious problem and you do need to cooperate
But the chances are are there is no serious reason otherwise they would’ve flagged it by now and you would know about it
I would never let them through the front door ever again after what they put us through
As I say findings included that the rental property had a bathroom that was too small
What the fuck they thought I could do about that I don’t know
But it was just silly little comments that they felt they had to make because they had to say something to fill up the paper and make themselves look useful

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Do you mind sharing why they were involved with you?

Honestly i cant understand how her sexual assault has lead to myself and my children being under scrutiny. I totally understand if there were genuine concerns regarding my parenting or children. Ive never had social services involvement, ever. Not that I look down on it but ive never felt the need for that additional support.

Im going to speak to her on monday. Not once was i made aware that this was optional. She came bursting through my door, walking around my property, spoke to my children, one who's special needs, contacted schools and GPs. Im like what the actual fuck. How has this even come about. Yes ive got 5 children and im pregnant but financially we are okay. Life is good. I feel violated.

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HarvestMouseandGoldenCups · 10/01/2026 13:31

Because your child was sexually abused… they’re assessing to make sure she is now safe and has the resources and help and a happy home to avoid it happening again and ensure her life isn’t destroyed by it.

You think that children who are sexually abused shouldn’t have interventions?

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:28

I agree with accessing as much support for your daughter as possible. I should say that.
Because as the other post, I mentioned you have to be extremely careful that social services aren’t gathering information that the defence Solicitor can use against her
They wouldn’t do that on purpose, but it has been done. Chaotic background mental instability implied.
They can always withdraw the comment, but the trouble is the jury never unhears it

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:25

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:17

Can i refuse their intervention? They have done a child and family assessment thing. I dont even know why.

I mean, the house is nice and we are okay but what the fuck haha. I cant get my head around it all.

Of course you can what they will do is imply to you that if you don’t voluntarily allow this they will go and get a warrant so to speak to forcibly do it if they are so inclined - That’s the worst case scenario.
If they meet the threshold to get a warrant, that’s not what it’s called, but that’s what it means
Then there really is a serious problem and you do need to cooperate
But the chances are are there is no serious reason otherwise they would’ve flagged it by now and you would know about it
I would never let them through the front door ever again after what they put us through
As I say findings included that the rental property had a bathroom that was too small
What the fuck they thought I could do about that I don’t know
But it was just silly little comments that they felt they had to make because they had to say something to fill up the paper and make themselves look useful

BadgernTheGarden · 10/01/2026 13:23

I would strongly complain to the college if she's been told she can't go back but the boy in question can. He should be banned and she should be able to go back or at worst both should be allowed back or both banned.

itsgettingweird · 10/01/2026 13:17

How come your DD needs to stop her education?

Ask the SW for support to get DD on a course elsewhere if her choosing. She’s the victim here.

He is - of course by law - innocent until proven guilty but plans to keep her safe shouldn’t include removing her from education or a supportive friendship group.

Support should be about helping her navigate life as she would have prior to assault withe the same outcomes she would have had prior to the assault and support to reach this.

You have a SW so I would use them to ask them “how are you going to support DD to …..”. Put the ball firmly in their court to provide help rather than make some report to stop a defense lawyer ripping her to shreds in court.

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:17

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:13

That’s not true at all.
I probably would’ve refused their intervention, especially as she’s over 16 there’s not a lot they could do.
What’s happened Is somebody has flagged a potential issue ie too many children and you are now on their radar and will be given extremely helpful advice. Like your bathroom is too small etc

Can i refuse their intervention? They have done a child and family assessment thing. I dont even know why.

I mean, the house is nice and we are okay but what the fuck haha. I cant get my head around it all.

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Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:13

PollyBell · 10/01/2026 00:48

Same reason health visitors visit to check on new parents to make sure children are being cared for correctly and are not another statistic among the other never ending statistics

That’s not true at all.
I probably would’ve refused their intervention, especially as she’s over 16 there’s not a lot they could do.
What’s happened Is somebody has flagged a potential issue ie too many children and you are now on their radar and will be given extremely helpful advice. Like your bathroom is too small etc

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:11

AlwaysTheRenegade · 10/01/2026 01:11

It's not fair at all OP, but they would do the same checks if she was living just you and her.
They might visit (probably not, might just ring you) to check all the family, including you are ok, coping ok, especially with your pregnancy and other kids.
Did the assault happen at her nans house?

Hi. They have already visited and dont get the wrong the social worker is lovely. But i dont understand why we are subjects in this too.

Ive sent her a message asking for more information. Shes basically said to offer support for my daughter if needed. But why contact my other childrens school etc. Yes the assault happened at her nans house. She woke up to him penetrating her. Hes 19 for reference.

I honestly feel like im being investigated.

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TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 08:55

DecisionTime123 · 10/01/2026 01:24

How is the OP's "pregnancy and other kids" relevant to her eldest DD being sexually assaulted at college? Why is it relevant to anything that DD was staying over at a relative's house? Would posters saying its ok expect that the male suspect's family home be investigated, his siblings' schools etc be contacted and his parents subjected to a CFA assessment?

There's something off here OP, have you asked for an explanation from social services? I'd want to know who asked for this assessment and why. Did they just contact you out of the blue and you let it happen without challenge? It might be completely innocent or normal for this to happen, but you need to get proactive. Sorry you and your family are going through this after what happened to your DD.

Exactly this.

Dont get me wrong, the social worker is lovely but I dont understand why all of my other children are subjects in this. Im not concerned as they're well looked after etc but I feel its not very fair.

My DD was sexually assaulted, has been told she cant return to college and hes roaming free, doing what he likes. There are bail conditions in place for him and this is why the social worker has said a safety plan needs to be in place, but it doesnt make sense why all of my other children and myself are in this. I honestly feel as though im the one being investigated. I have never been in this situation so ive kind of just gona along with it. She initially said that it was support for my DD then said when she came to see her, I just need to check the other children and their rooms to tick a box. I obviously didnt refused, my home is clean etc so thought nothing of it.

She said shes nearly finished her assessment now. So I guess ill find out what's happening.

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DecisionTime123 · 10/01/2026 01:24

How is the OP's "pregnancy and other kids" relevant to her eldest DD being sexually assaulted at college? Why is it relevant to anything that DD was staying over at a relative's house? Would posters saying its ok expect that the male suspect's family home be investigated, his siblings' schools etc be contacted and his parents subjected to a CFA assessment?

There's something off here OP, have you asked for an explanation from social services? I'd want to know who asked for this assessment and why. Did they just contact you out of the blue and you let it happen without challenge? It might be completely innocent or normal for this to happen, but you need to get proactive. Sorry you and your family are going through this after what happened to your DD.

AlwaysTheRenegade · 10/01/2026 01:11

It's not fair at all OP, but they would do the same checks if she was living just you and her.
They might visit (probably not, might just ring you) to check all the family, including you are ok, coping ok, especially with your pregnancy and other kids.
Did the assault happen at her nans house?

Squirrelchops1 · 10/01/2026 01:02

It's quite normal to open all the children in a household if they're doing an assessment on another. Good practice actually.

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 01:00

PollyBell · 10/01/2026 00:48

Same reason health visitors visit to check on new parents to make sure children are being cared for correctly and are not another statistic among the other never ending statistics

I understand this. What I dont understand is, shes the victim. I feel like they are.tsrgeting where she is safest. It doesnt seem to make sense. My children are happy, clean, fed and well rounded children and as ive previously stated, I have no concerns regarding them. I just dont understand why this is a procedure and how my other children are now at potential risk?

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