To think baby change facilities should just be for that?

I’ve had the same issue
The security guards at my local at the time were more than happy to look after my twins

After a while we all knew each other by name 😁

However that’s because I could rarely wait for them to open the disabled
You are within your rights to wait for the disabled as it’s actually just providing extra facilities. Anyone can use it though

Walsall Asda George. Knock yourself out. I'm definitely team Loo in the Baby Change

you're missing the point op.

in your opinion, he misused the facilities
you may well be right. it's more likely he's a selfish git you wanted to poo in peace than he was disabled, couldn't access the disabled toilet and couldn't use the men's so had to use the baby change.

but your answer is to punish other parents like yourself because you didn't want to wait for the smell to dissipate?

our local Asda has a dedicated baby change, female toilets, male toilets and a locked disabled toilet. so when my kids were in a pushchair, I couldn't go to the loo there. no loo in the baby change and no way to get a double buggy in through the two doors to the ladies. the one time I was desperate I had to ask a lady to watch my twins and take the chance that is was unlikely I'd randomly picked a paedophile / child abductor, or pee myself.

That’s gross. I wouldn’t have gone in. Minging.

Had I not seen exactly that at a busy service station, I’d be inclined to agree. It was up the walls behind and next to the toilet, and splashed onto the ceiling.

I have no clue if the phantom shitter responsible threw it up there with her hands, or if her exhaust was just that powerful.

Changing a colostomy bag, quite possibly.

OP - in which case, would explain why he chose the baby change if the disabled toilet was already in use, over the men’s toilets that wouldn’t offer either the privacy or space required.

Because it was an accesible toilet but that doesn't suit the op narrative of "the rights of a baby change" .

How can he have left a stench if there is no loo in there?

Oh i think it was for "dramatic effect" I would take the shitty ceiling with a pinch of salt! Along with the speeding away woman.

What the fuck. If I had a tendency to poo so bad it got on the ceiling (physically how?!) then I would not be leaving the house.

I don't think your husband was the first person to think of that as I think most people pop the clean nappy underneath baby first before taking the dirty one off? But it is a good idea!

But I totally agree I wouldn't stand around waiting for 15 minutes for a baby change to be free if I could change the nappy in the pram or car. In fact 4 kids in and I've rarely used baby change facilities. They usually stink anyway 😂

YANBU I’m not sure why needing to do a poo means you can’t do it in the men’s. Equally though if you really needed to change your baby as you said why did you wait 15 mins - if you drove you could have done it in the car, if you walked then chances are you’re somewhere with another shop with a baby change nearer than 15 mins away. Although obvs you didn’t know he’d be so
long!

In an ideal world yes it would be just for baby change, but who would police it? Supermarkets have cut the staff down to the bone and they are barely able to keep the shelves full, so they certainly wouldnt have someone standing by the bogs all day

My sympathies OP, I’ve had similar experiences. Once I went to use a disabled loo/baby change combo (there were other disabled loos too), had to wait a long time, stench was sickening, then a woman burst out, pushing past us to leave in a hurry, very rude, we rolled in and dear god: there was poo everywhere! All over the floor, the toilet, the wall - I had to get the staff in and they resignedly came to clean it. I was permitted to use the baby change in the gents instead (it was going to be a big clean up and DD was crying) but they stopped any men coming in while we did, so more people inconvenienced. The woman staff member cleaning told me it happened often with older people (even poo on the ceiling!), and they wouldn’t mind if only those who did it told someone afterward instead of leaving it to everyone else to clean up/deal with.

Yep agree with PPs that what bothers me more is baby change without a toilet in it.

Oh I know that I was just saying what it should be like even in supermarkets.

Maybe, sorry. I was asking really if there was a toilet or not.

I remember when my kids were small there was a place in town had a family room which had a change table, little loo, big loo high sink and a low sink. I had a toddler and twins so it was great to get everyone changed and go to loo myself. I didn’t go anywhere there wasn’t a loo in the baby change as complete pain. I appreciate my circumstances were extreme but I went to same three places weekly for several years as they had good loos!

I disagree with this actually (that wheelchair users be prioritised over parents with buggies by default). I have a baby and toddler, and an invisible disability (type 1 diabetes). I need the buggy because carrying a changing bag/wrangling an toddler and also breastfeeding impacts my blood sugar and causes hypoglycaemic attacks. Someone in a wheelchair (depending on their condition) may actually be safer and more able than I am, especially when waiting in a queue, or at a bus stop with no seats for resting. It’s not so simple as wheelchair = worse off. Also, in a queue for the loo, a toddler might need it more urgently than a disabled person - it’s something to be negotiated instance by instance, if needed. Toddlers are people too and shouldn’t be forced to soil themselves any more than anyone else. Admittedly I’ll always try and use a portapotty or regular loo for myself and my toddler if needed, but sometimes we need that bigger space too.

There used to be public showers at mainline train stations like Victoria in their public toilets area. No idea how many homeless people versus travellers used them but that area has a high population of homeless people with additional needs.

It will have been the business not the council who made that decision

Local councils can’t invent or override current building regs

If it’s a council owned facility then obviously they can add extras if they want but they can’t impose that on other businesses

That's good and sounds like most modern shopping centres.

However, the OP is talking about a supermarket.

In my local shopping centre, the baby changing room (which has a toilet) has a buzzer on it so people can’t just decide to go in there.

There are two accessible toilets for everyone who needs to use them plus there are the normal toilets. I was really glad my council thought about everyone including parents when mine were babies.

The OP hasn't said there was no toilet?

In fact, she's heavily implied in her replies that there was and that's why it stank.

But the smell is irrelevant, because if he had a baby it wouldn't have stank any less when he had a shit.

This. There are several different scenarios in which a lone adult might need the facilities provided in a baby change. I would have thought everyone knew by 2026 that when it comes to additional needs/disabilities/use of municipal facilities, it’s best to mind your own business.