Military conscription

This is all theoretical bollocks though isn't it? Its not the fucking hunger games where you can volunteer as tribute in place of someone else. Airy fairy nonsense.

There is unlikely to be conscription in Britain. Until they sort out the shit show that is recruitment (where a high percentage of candidates withdraw due to the length of time it takes) it is unlikely to have support.

They supported Hitler before WW2.

Why should working class british citizens, despised and ignored by the political classes, lay down their lives?

What for? Their way of life is already fading.

So it ups the chances of conflict with Russia, we can’t pretend they’re just peace troops if someone else fires a shot. You’re in conflict then.

The Daily Fail probably.

You don't need to hope. Just know your (or rather our) history. Although if you did, you'd stand out on this thread.

’Tricked’ into war by whom?

Let’s hope so!

I'm confused. So your stance is: WW3 happens, only people who want to fight should go fight. Okay. So then, if we lose because there isn't enough support/troops/experience/strength ... then what? What do you think happens to you and your loved ones when invaders arrive and there's no front line to 'protect' you? Are you hoping the opposition will offer you a cup of tea, a hug and a lovely future?

We’ve sent peacekeeping forces before. It doesn’t always work out well. What it isn’t, though, is evidence that Starmer wants war.

The UK couldn't even support trying to deal with COVID. There is no fucking way it could be tricked into backing a war.

If that’s how you choose to interpret my comment, be my guest.

We can start by stopping pretending that lessons have been learned from the world wars and start being honest about the realities of war instead of pushing the theoretical concept of noble sacrifice by people who have never been in war.

People who want to fight can fight. If there aren't enough people who want to fight then the cards need to fall where they may. We've had enough chances to learn from it.

He’s pretty keen on sending troops to Ukraine. Yes only after peace but what happens if that breaks down?

Perhaps you could link to just one or two concrete examples?

Ah ok. You can’t recall any examples or show any articles or comments made but he’s definitely done it because you think he has. Fair enough.

Not really,.

You’re not choosing living your current life or fighting. You’re choosing living under a potentially brutal occupation or fighting.

i wonder if we go to war and eventually lose, we should look at life in East Germany as an example of what life might be like here, and how long it might take to recover? Dreadful standard of living, suspicion as to who’s a collaborator etc.

or just like Covid - everything super expensive, can’t get anything done as nothing in shops / builders merchants etc, plus energy blackouts etc. everyone massively stressed and argumentative. Think shit’s bleak now, it would be a whole new world.

I don’t want war or conscription. But I’ll volunteer myself if I can take the place of my children.

Fundamentally our society is worth protecting. “British values” as taught in schools / it’s a bit 🙄, but I’m very happy with democracy, justice, fairness etc !

I think whether it’s Starmer or Kemi in power is irrelevant as to whether we end up in a war. *If it’s coming, no govt will be able to stop it. It will be a matter of whether we have a period of appeasement before or not, or if we just roll over and give up. I like to think we’re better than that.

(if it’s Farage, he’ll have sold us out - massive coward and definitely in Russia’s pockets / no chance with him in charge).

I’m sorry, but I don’t keep a record of every comment I hear Starmer, or anyone else, say. But it’s been clear for months that attempts are being made to nudge us into supporting war.

It's no a question of if it is going to happen but when it is going to happen. Just look at history!
Mandatory conscription for both sexes is being adopted in other countries and the UK will not be any different.

I'm menopausal.
Training me to use a gun - not a great idea.

No, but some things can. Like your contention about Starmer wanting a war badly to ensure 3 generations of compliance (to what?)

Yes, but you can.

The OP’s question is pointless. What is ‘WW3’

What is any war ?

War is diplomacy by other means. Nothing more. Nothing less.