To be shocked by this government dietary advice for babies and children?

Yes it’s old fashioned crap. My kids never al drank juice and they don’t now as adults. And pudding twice a day? Ridiculous.

My friend gave her kids juice she just watered it down a bit and what's wrong with rice cereal I assume they mean farex not Coco pops 😂

God this website is so funny. People really can't imagine living a perfectly normal life where you feed your child a fortified cereal with a bit of sugar in it once a week, it's not giving them cancer

Zombie thread

But they are fortified with vitamins and minerals, are usually eaten with milk which is a good source of nutrition and they melt on the tongue, preventing choking incidents.

Rice crispies are an excellent way to encourage hand eye coordination and pincer grip.

Ok I did a bit of a scooby online and found this

A major investigation published in The BMJ (British Medical Journal) revealed that 11 out of 19 members of the government's official Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition (SACN) have active financial ties to the food and drink industry.

Im not sure if they had input in to this advice.

Now I do respect the BMJ more than most. DH links to food manufacturers having worked with many has meant he won’t have sweeteners, margarine or any oil except olive oil in the house. He was also always ranting about the low fat diet foods being rubbish years ago.

I was a dental nurse, worked in a regular dentist and then in a specialist maxillofacial day surgery unit where we did all manner of sedation techniques and anaesthetics including fully incubated general anaesthetics.

Have seen many a small child have multiple teeth removed, have helped hold them down as they were put under, not the most pleasant experience for anyone.

Dried fruit and fruit juice were the work of the devil according to the surgeons. My friends DD loved dried cranberries and she used to give her a few through the day, that’s the worst, it’s best to just eat them in one go so the teeth are not bathed in the sugars on and off all day, that’s what he used to say. I didn’t give my children juice until they were much older nor squash due to artificial sweeteners, that’s was down to DH who works with food manufacturers.

Popcorn is a major choking hazard so have no idea why that was added.

Why?
An adult with a good diet can give their kid the same as them as long as they haven't added too much salt and they aren't eating junk every meal.
I don't understand kid's menus at all in restaurants. Usually highly processed junk.

I'm afraid you still do sound very judgemental to me.

Same!

I think some of it is genetic. No amount of exposure would make one of my dcs like spice, despite me loving it.. The other one however loves it too! It is similar for me, no amount of trying sprouts would ever change my mind.

Me too. My son went through a phase of only eating crisps and cottage cheese, whatever I offered. Doctor said don't worry, he won't starve and dentist said at least it wasn't sweets. He eats widely now - but not sprouts or green beans (token ceremonial sprout at Christmas).

I agree they should not be suggesting juice at all! Water or fine, or at a push squash, not juice. Also - popcorn! Shouldn't be giving that to any child under 5 due to the safety concerns. Hope they've told them to quarter the grapes in that advice somewhere as well. Cereal everyday isn't ideal, could mix it up with some some scrambled eggs.

we don’t advise against juice with meals. and one glass of juice a day isn’t contraindicated for sugars either

Why? What on earth do you think will happen if you do? 😂

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Well just look at the number of NHS staff, whoare overweight or obese and draw your own conclusions.

Parts of Europe do, plenty other parts do not and think both cereal and pastries/nutella/cake for breakfast are terrible for children.

I weaned my youngest on curries and other spicy food (food i don't like but I wanted to make an effort to give him a wider diet than me) and he absolutely loves spicy food, has been adding hot sauce to his meals himself since he was a toddler. Though he also went through the fussy toddler stage and for a long while pretty much all he ate was beetroot, porridge and ketchup! I kept offering foods though and he eventually started eating again though everything had to be served with ketchup, even pancakes

It’s a bit of puffed rice and apple juice, you’d think folk were giving their kids a morning fag and a wrap of cocaine.

Giving a page that does not in fact describe the process at all, to a biomedical scientist and ex medical researcher for a while, is an interesting approach.

Sugar is and always remains neutral. It is bacteria (a specific strain) in the mouth that metabolises the sugars and excretes acidic waste.

You also ignore how that page specifically gives a multiple risk grouping as a major issue, including brushing and fluoride on top together as one.

It's not like my comment said give them as much sugar as possible. It cleared up a myth from those who don't understand what happens, and was me saying being paranoid about any at all is silly if you are competent and practice good oral hygiene.

Nonsense. As previously stated the rest of Europe cheerfully send their children off to school on sweet pastries, cakes, bread and Nutella, biscuits and a glass of milk. Cereal and toast is not the evil Mnetters believe them to be.

I think porridge is an acquired taste and can be unacquired later on either taste or tecture grounds. But generally speaking DC will eat what you feed them if you feed it early (this probably doesn't include sprouts and green beans, however).

Agree!!

I’m really surprised actually that so many people are saying it’s fine. Perhaps I have issues, but there is no way I’d feed my children cereal and juice as a typical breakfast.

Snap, crackle and pop...fond memories of childhood.