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To be frustrated that DD is struggling to find a job in her desired field while her friends on skilled worker visas aren’t

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Andiessock · 08/01/2026 21:58

My DD is in her mid 20s, she graduated with a masters in philosophy over 2 years ago now from a top university in London, she has a BA from a top university as well. Her two closest friends during her masters weren’t British.
DD struggled to find a job directly related to philosophy or even culture in general, she did manage to get a job in the civil service but she doesn’t enjoy it at all.
Her two friends both managed to get jobs in the field they desired originally on graduate visas, now both are sponsored on skilled worker visas.
One works at cultural institute associated with her home country in programme coordination so planning and running events that promote her countries culture etc. specifically in literature and philosophy.
The other works at a non-profit cultural institution in a similar role to her other friend but a little more research heavy less events centred.

First of all I’m not entirely sure how either of these roles fall under “skilled workers”, they must be making around 40k to even qualify and whilst I understand the first friend being preferred over a British national since it’s a cultural institution, I don’t understand why non-Brits are being given roles in an industry Brits are struggling to get a foot in the door at.

Im all for migrants for what it’s worth, this is not intended to be slanderous to migrants, especially in industries which need the talent from abroad; but I don’t see how that applies here and in this case it does feel like “foreigners are stealing British jobs” (not a sentiment I typically agree with or would use any other time). That’s not to mention that I’m not even sure how these roles qualify as skilled workers in the first place.

AIBU to find this incredibly frustrating?

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valadon68 · 08/01/2026 22:16

So if all the well-qualified British philosophy grads were kicked out of the foreign countries they've settled in and came to give your daughter some homegrown competition for jobs, would that be better?

Philosophy is a worldwide enterprise driven by exchange which is choked by borders. I have no doubt your daughter knows this.

titchy · 08/01/2026 22:16

Well did you even bother to see what jobs do qualify before leaping to the ‘foreigners stealing our jobs’ trope? Historians and social scientists are designated highly skilled, as are heritage officers, PR officers and arts officers - which presumably they’ll be classed as. So yes YABU - sounds like sour grapes.
Lots of grads would give their eye teeth to get into the CS btw….She may not like her current role, but there are plenty of options for sideways moves into something closer to what she’d prefer.

BlackCatDiscoClub · 08/01/2026 22:15

No worries at all, its a weird old world in philosophy! It will likely be what her friend specialised in. She may have focused on aesthetics and the philosophy of art. She may have been published on a subject and that impressed the institute. Philosophy breaks down into so many categories. I'd love to hear what your DDs focus was, that might help think of other routes into interesting careers. Unfortunately academia is also very hard to break into, so a PhD is not a guarantee of a job sadly.

Thundertoast · 08/01/2026 22:13

They have a masters in the subject, im not sure what more qualifications you'd want for a skilled worker, can you clarify?
And people are directed to hire the best person for the job... are you saying thats not whats happened here? That both of these roles were designed in a way that non British people (also are we talking passport holders or what) wouldnt be considered for them if they applied? That in the first instance, a British person who was more qualified and knowledgeable about the country in question has been turned down because they arent from that country in favour of a lesson qualified person?
Im really not sure how your daughter not getting a job is leading you to believe there's something fishy going on with the other two jobs, surely you must realise that as her parent, who has never hired her for a job....you arent going to be the most subjective judge on how she interviews....

Andiessock · 08/01/2026 22:09

BlackCatDiscoClub · 08/01/2026 22:03

I have a degree and masters in philosophy. Unless your DD either has a specialist or something unique she can bring that sets her apart (her friends have got specialist knowledge in their culture that got them their roles) then she needs to do a PhD and commit to academia. No one does philosophy thinking there will be jobs at the end of it. Do it because its your calling, and make academia your job or accept that you are unlikely to 'work' in this field. You haven't said what role your DD works in the civil service, but if she comes from a moral or analytical philosophy side and enjoys tech, she could study AI and data ethics. Many companies are hiring for this specialist role and she could make a great career in it with her background.

That is interesting. Maybe you can help me understand then as I’ll be honest I don’t (I’m not being intentionally ignorant).
Her first friend is French and works at a French institute, went to a prestigious French university for her undergraduate. I can see why they would pick her for this role.
What I don’t understand is her other friend is from a Scandinavian country, works at a British cultural/intellectual institution (think like the Royal Society of Arts or Institute of Arts and Ideas), what specialist knowledge would she have that would be useful to them over a Brit?
I do see the link more in the first friend’s situation but less so in the second.

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BlackCatDiscoClub · 08/01/2026 22:03

I have a degree and masters in philosophy. Unless your DD either has a specialist or something unique she can bring that sets her apart (her friends have got specialist knowledge in their culture that got them their roles) then she needs to do a PhD and commit to academia. No one does philosophy thinking there will be jobs at the end of it. Do it because its your calling, and make academia your job or accept that you are unlikely to 'work' in this field. You haven't said what role your DD works in the civil service, but if she comes from a moral or analytical philosophy side and enjoys tech, she could study AI and data ethics. Many companies are hiring for this specialist role and she could make a great career in it with her background.

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