Angry woman on plane, Was we BU?

I think conflict while flying should always be avoided by adults when possible.
Fist fights on planes are terrifying.
Both adults were rude. DH continued the stress like a child.

Exactly! I have done a 5 hour flight in a non reclining budget airline seat and it got very uncomfortable towards the end. Ironocally no issue with meal service or IFE since they're also non existent wiht budget airlibes. I avoid them for anything above 4 hours, that's my limit for non recline.

Last summer when we flew emirates.

Yup, all on your DH. Sorry. The sort of passenger that makes flying a misery.

During mealtimes she has every right to have access to her table. Any other time is free rein to recline the seat. But mealtimes and access to drinks etc are non negotiable and he seems like a selfish twat

Emirates haven’t upgraded all their old stock
Ive had no tilt screens

@celticprincess how long ago was that? I regularly fly Emirates to Oz and haven’t encountered this but perhaps I’ve been lucky.

I agree that the last row before the lavs is a good choice. Your seat still reclines but you don’t have to worry about inconveniencing anyone behind you nor about seat kickers. Also agree that people should exercise common courtesy when reclining, look first and do it slowly.

We flew Emirates to Australia. Possibly an older model of plane. My daughter couldn’t use her screen once the child in front was reclined. The tilting function didn’t work. She ended up having to use her IPad to watch things we had luckily saved for her. It was incredibly frustrating. Luckily it was just one of the 6 planes we caught for that holiday.

Must say - may have done upthread - I’d struggle to be upright for a long haul to Australia. Glad we picked the back row seats which still reclined to the ‘wall’. Trade off was being near the toilets. Worked well for us. I think it’s just the way some people go about reclining that’s rude. Literally banging on their child’s seat. I can see why. Child isn’t strong enough to recline it themself and parent from another angle also doesn’t have the strength. But not whilst person behind is eating. And usually an apology wouldn’t go a miss. The parent on our flight wasn’t doing it for the sleeping child though. Their child was the opposite of asleep and couldn’t sit still, lots of jumping about. Daughter’s iPad kept falling over. And a drink was spilled down her at one point.

Especially as a 4 year old doesn’t need the extra leg room. The sooner reclining on planes isn’t a thing the better. More of a hinderance than not.

Nearly all my flying is long haul
Guernsey the exception…Aurigney airlines …no idea if seats recline. V short flight no one’s ever done it to me as mostly business people working
We travel Long haul to Mostly Asia

I use reclining when the lights go out
Ive never had an issue with anyone reclining in front of me other than when the lights go out. ( I should add There’s rarely many kids on our flights as we don’t travel in the ht of school holidays )
Thai airways
Qatar
Emirates
Sri lankan
??? can’t recall others

All long haul with recliners

So I doubt it’s people without experience of long haul because they will appreciate the concept of ‘when the lights go out’…even for those with stop overs you still have that.

I think it’s just peoples different characteristics and attitudes to life

@notimagain 100% . I can only imagine that those who see seat recliners in any circumstances as the anti christ don’t actually do much long haul flying. I have always found cabin staff very reasonable on the issue.

I wondered at first if it was because he thought if he sat him up, DS would wake up and start screaming which of course the couple behind would not have been happy about either! But it seems it made no difference and he still reclined it again

If a seat reclines and someone is asleep in that chair, recline it. That's the whole reason it's there.
If the stewards ask you not to, you obey.

Tbh if the seat reclines then that's the users prerogative to use it. If you happen to be behind said person well that's nothing more than unfortunate. I wouldn't be swearing at the person (especially in front of a child). Stop reclining seats and people would complain about that too. No win situation.

Yep, TBH my question/comment was slightly rhetorical..I worked on a lot of Long Haul.flights and what you describe was absolutely standard, where I worked and AFAIK is still across the industry...

I see there's still some resistance in.some quarterd to the idea of seats reclining at all. I can only assume that's mostly coming from those who have not done a significant amount of Long Haul flying, or from those just wanting to be provocative.

Except for the last person in the line of course

Thai airways I know don’t have them if you get an older plane
Emirates aswell I’ve flown on and they didn’t. That was also an older plane though

So I’m guessing not all airlines have upgraded all their older stock

yes that’s it . Once one person reclines the whole line ends up having to do it really.

I would never “slam” my seat back. Like most considerate people I would take a look behind me to ensure that there was no food or drink on the person’s tray table and move it back gently.

If people are concerned about a lack of space why don’t they just recline their own seats? After all, the person reclining is often doing it because the person in front of them has reclined theirs.

I don’t understand what airlines people are flying on that a reclined seat in front of you means you can’t use your seat back screen. I’ve never had a problem with this across multiple airlines. They all tilt so you can adjust the angle of the screen.

It’s self evident that you should put your seat upright during meals and drink service.

I can assure you I would!!! I don’t mind reclining after a meal on a night flight when the lights go out (but have in recent times actually felt claustrophobic but thats just me.) It was precisely after a 12 hour flight in a middle row seat and the person in front fully reclined within twenty minutes of take off ( more or less) that I decided never again .

Although neither of the pps airlines mentioned do 12hour flights
Think there max is about half that

Perfect! Thats really the only solution.

Yep, you can like it but dont kid yourself they did this because of some philosophical objection to reclining. I dont think they've ever reclined.
I can assure you that you wouldn't be cheering for a non reclining seat on a 12 hour flight!

Even on big name flights in economy there’s not much space. If you’re over six foor there’s not much leg room at all for example even without the seat in front reclining .