Angry woman on plane, Was we BU?

Yes that makes sense. I read it that they could recline after the safety briefing 😂sorry!

LTB!!!

Why does your child sleeping undisturbed trump everyone else's convenience? The child would very likely have been able to sleep without the seat reclined, and even if they couldn't you can't assume your comfort, or your child's comfort is more important than someone else's.

Yeah, so let the airline tell them ‘officially’ not to do this and it will carry more weight than a random stranger saying they shouldn’t, or a steward trying to manage an argument. If they disobey the rule then there are penalties.

Which is unfortunately lesson common these days, as OP's Prince among men husband demonstrates.

It's common sense!

I agree. Not before meal and drinks but after is fine. Don't jerk it back suddenly too. But if you don't like recliners when no food/drink is involved, and the lights are dimmed, don't fly economy.

Actually plane seats have always reclined (other than the budget airlines where they've basically never).

I've flown a lot long-haul and since I was a baby due to having immigrant parent and flying back to their country each year (and I'm old now). Always reclined as does everyone else. The ONLY tme I ever had a problem was a couple of years ago with a British family who kicked off and hit and pushed my seat when I gently reclined after he meal service and they created havoc insisting that no one should recline (and this was a long haul night flight).

The entitled behaviour is insisting that no one should recline and people should sacrifice the comfort they are actually entitled to and paid for so you are more comfortable (when you have the option to pay extra to sit in a bulkhead or exit row or even pay for 2 seats so no one sits in the seat in front just like people who are too big need to apy for the seat next to them so as not to inconvenince other passengers)

Some predictably stupid responses here. Particularly the ones that deduce that reclining at any time is appropriate, because the the seats have that functionality. Well, my car horn works while the car is stationary at 3am. I can access my stereo system's volume level 30 at 3am also. My phone can play loud rap music, and spotify will enable me to play songs with particularly explicit lyrics on packed trains. My biology will facilitate defecating on the floor of my local co-op. All possible, all terrible behaviour.

This row is a symptom of the "I can do what I like" society where individuals love to tell everyone what they can do, and just wont be told what they can't do without resorting to aggression.

Unfortunately, our civilisation is now too thick and too self-centred to leave this down to judgement and decency. We need an announcement reminding people to not recline until meal service has been completed and cleared, and do so slowly and carefully, with consideration.

Also people connect to flights from all kinds of time zones. It might be a day flight for one but it's night for someone else. When it comes to long haul flights, time enters a different dimension (when else do you eat a full dinner at 1am 😀)

Flying long haul in economy just isn’t comfortable whether you recline or not. If you’re in the middle of a row behind someone who reclines I feel like a sardine wedged in a tin.It’s doable for me in the extra leg room seats which are usually reserved quickly and are more expensive, premium seats push the price up by alot more. I’d rather just do closer holiday destinations on shorter flights with budget airlines that i actually find quite comfortable.

tray only works if the person behind isnt fat.

I disagree, the etiquette is that reclining is fine as long as the drinks/food service is not ongoing.

You deem it unnecessary, others will say they are uncomfortable/in pain otherwise. And similarly, some people don’t mind when others recline whereas others do.

I agree it’s on the airlines as well who have created this situation, it’s all about cramming people in and maximising profits

So much so that over the year the airlines might make a tenner on the average passenger.....🤔

Airlines know that one of, if not the, main driver of passenger choice of flights is ticket cost...

They facilitate that by maximising capacity (within reason), that means tightning seat pitch in economy but having premium economy/economy plus etc for the cohort willing to pay more....

She means give the instructions about reclining after the safety talk, not allow reclining at that point.

It wasn't a meal time. It was a drink.

I didn't say it wasn't 'flight policy if a passenger ASKS them to intervene'. I said IN MY OPINION she was a TWAT. The child was asleep, she was a twat to make such a fuss when she only had a drink.

ive been on plenty of flights & several times managed meals with the seat in front reclined because the person needed to have the seat reclined, let alone just a drink.

its nothing to do with deciding 'my families convenience'. I'm not the OP's husband.

i think it's acceptable she can 'make do' because it's not a big deal & the child was asleep & im not a selfish twat. HTH

The safety talk? That happens on the tarmac, and everyone’s seats are upright at that point…

Excuse the typos in both posts. Too late to edit 😆

I agree it’s on the airlines as well who have created this situation, it’s all about cramming people in and maximising profits. It’s very poorly designed on some planes.

However in this specific case it’s also on the husband, because the rule is to put your seat upright during meal times. So he should have just complied. Simple.

I think Op said something about he was worried his son would get a sore neck if he slept upright but that’s nonsense. His son wasn’t going to get a sore neck for not having the seat reclined for 100% of the time, so he was being disingenuous and using that as an excuse . But even if that were true it still doesn’t negate the fact that the policy is to have your seat upright during mealtimes. Let your child sleep on your lap for a while if you’re that worried.

I don’t like people reclining at all for an entire journey, but I accept it’s their right to do it as per airlines policy. So I wouldn’t object to it unless it was during mealtimes, because it’s my right not to put up with that during mealtimes - again, as per airlines policy.

Firstly, it appears to be flight policy that the seats be upright doing upright since the cabin crew backed her up. And that’s always been the rule on all my flights.

And secondly who are you to decide if she didn’t need the seat up and could manage? It’s up to her to decide if she requires the seats to be upright.

Why do you think it’s acceptable she should just make do if it’s “tricky”? You don’t get to decide you and your families convenience trumps a stranger who does not owe you anything.

As others have said they could also have had their kid lying across them, instead of reclining and there’s no evidence their child was unable to sleep as a result of making the chair upright during meal times.

I haven’t flown for years but don’t understand why they have reclining seats at all if there is not enough room to recline them without making it uncomfortable for the person behind?

You should be able to recline the seat to sleep if you want, or if a child needs to, but equally you don’t want the seat in front banging into your knees or restricting your space even more (and space is tight enough as it is).

So this is on the airline, not the husband or the couple behind.

People who want to sleep!

it's annoying if you're sitting behind them & don't want to recline your own seat & sleep, but the seats recline & it's your right to recline them.

the woman didn't need the DH's seat up for a drink. It's more tricky at meal times but honestly it's do able.

he had a sleeping child in him as well. She was the test here. Not him!!

Your husband waa in the wrong . Not worth reclining the seat for child, kids will sleep regardless. But I just dont get the point of reclining seats on airplanes anyway they just cause problems and dont recline thst much to make difference to your comfort just annoy the person behind

Yes or tell passengers not to recline until lights are out, after they’ve given the safety talk. It would make it a lot easier for cabin crew to enforce if they’re officially been told not to do it