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Am I and DH being unfair

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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

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Happyjoe · 08/01/2026 16:20

Paid a third of my wage to my parents when I lived at home. £30 is very generous of you!
She sounds...... like every other entitled teenager who has yet to learn some lessons in life. Ie, nothing is free, she doesn't get away with slobby behaviour, and if she doesn't like noise so she can lie in past midday, time she went to find somewhere new to live. Stick to your guns OP!

lessglittermoremud · 08/01/2026 16:19

My DH paid £75 a week keep to his mum 23 years ago so you definitely need to look at what you’re charging.
When I was that age I paid the difference in council tax (parent was a single parent so would have paid the lone adult rate if I wasn’t there), a 1/3 of water/gas/electricity because there was three of us there (a younger sibling also lives there). It wasn’t a massive amount each month I seem to remember it being around £87 a month. I wasn’t charged any more on the condition that I saved a proportion of my wages towards a deposit, I moved out at 23 when I met my now DH, we managed to get our foot on the property ladder a year later because of savings we had.
Your DD is paying no where near the cost of a room in a shared house and I think a little wake up call is needed.

Jugendstiel · 08/01/2026 16:15

Show her the bills and explain that your costs are fair and if she doesn;t like them and moves out she will be paying 10 times that every week, once she covers rent utilities and food.

Remind her she insisted on the downstairs room so has to accept it comes with daytime noise. And wake her up to do her washing up from the night before and to reboot her laundry every single time until she gets the message that if she doesn;t do it when it needs doing, she will have to do it at inconvenient times.

I'd try to do this all without a row. I did say to DS1 (back for Christmas -east entirely different food from us, at entirely different times) that tidying up after himself doesn't just mean sticking a plate in the dishwasher but washing his greasy pan and wiping down the stovetop too. I got so hacked off with him, and had to say I hated having to remind him as it turned me into a nag which I have zero desire to be, or a slave picking up after him, which I also have zero desire to be. So he has to behave like an adult.

WallaceinAnderland · 08/01/2026 16:09

She's working, she pays her way. Same for the boyfriend.

I would charge £100pw minimum.

She won't get anywhere else that cheap, all food and bills included.

Blueblell · 08/01/2026 16:08

£30 is just a contribution and I am sure she costs a lot more to feed ect ect. I would say that the boyfriend should do his washing at home, if he is staying 3 nights then he should bring 3 days clothes and take his washing home. I would enforce 3 days as a limit and make it clear he is welcome but is a guest.

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BashfulClam · 08/01/2026 16:03

No, it’s £30 a week plus now buying her food or she moves out. She seems to dictate a lot in your home. It’s YOUR home

LadyDanburysHat · 08/01/2026 16:03

Don't offer boyfriend to pay keep. Make it once a week, that's enough at that age anyway, or they can move out and live together. No more boyfriend laundry, and stop moaning about noise. It's a family home with noise, she can live with it or leave. She is sounding very spoilt.

Firefly100 · 08/01/2026 16:03

SleepingStandingUp · 08/01/2026 12:46

genuine qn as a Mom who's eldest is only 10. I see "or tell her to leave" so often on these threads, and certainly "you love under my roof, my rules..." was used on us but how many parents actually pack their kids bags up and make them homeless? it feels like such a hollow threat. I'm not saying the fear factor doesn't work, but I always wonder what happens when the defiant DD/DS still doesn't comply

is op actually prepared to make her child sleep on the streets or end up NC when she moves in with boyfriend?

OP if he's uncomfortable with you fondling his underwear 🙄 could you chuck it in a basket in her room wet? do you have enough plates / cups etc to do similarly with their plates etc? anything left in the morning in a box dumped in her room? obviously you'd need to safeguard crockery etc for yourselves.

I'd also encourage the younger ones in their morning singing. have they considered taking up the violin??

I live with 2 of my adult children - there are issues but it works. Honestly, if they were being as unreasonable as OP's daughter and were unwilling to see reason or try to reach a compromise then yes, reluctantly I would ask them to leave and go as far as to make them leave potentially. I would not see it as me making them homeless though. I would see that as them making themselves homeless. The roof they have over their head has conditions attached to it of reasonable adult behaviour which they are not willing to meet. I can only be responsible for my own choices and actions, not other peoples. My only choice is how to respond to them. If I feel I have asked nothing unreasonable, then I see that this is THEIR choice to prefer homelessness over living with me if it comes to that.

crazeekat · 08/01/2026 16:01

Absolute brat. This is your house. Your rules. You need to set tight regulations. Ur other kids sound totally fine and yes she works so can move out if she’s not happy. And I’d be taking the big room back. Who tf does she think she is. The entitlement is so bad! £15! Absolutely brat. I’d put her board up to cover the boyfriend’s washing. Actual cheeky fks .

IsabellaGoodthing · 08/01/2026 15:58

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 13:08

I’m going to speak to DH when we are home tonight and suggest we up her rent and tell her if she doesn’t like it she can go to her boyfriends parents house and stay there or she moves out. We will put this to her while her boyfriend isn’t around and tell her that unless he starts paying some keep towards he will be staying at home and only welcome once a week as opposed to the 5 days he stays here including the weekend. I thought I was being unfair but I see that maybe we are being too soft x

Definitely too soft OP.
About the noise, you could agree to have quiet until 7am on a weekday morning and 9am at the weekend, but after that it's hard luck if they want to sleep in the day time.
About the washing, if he doesn't like his undies being sullied by the touch of people a generation older, he needs to take it home. Or deal with it promptly. Grrr, he sounds irritating.
Thirty quid a week all in is incredibly low cost and DD is very lucky.

DirtyGertiefromno30 · 08/01/2026 15:56

You’re not being unfair @MumTeapot5. Letting her choose her room and have her boyfriend was fine, and asking her to contribute £30, tidy up, and accept normal family noise is reasonable. If she won’t pay, she can buy her own food, and if she can’t follow the rules, overnight visits can be paused. Boundaries are part of being treated like an adult.

QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 08/01/2026 15:55

You're a boiled frog, OP!

I hope all these messages have been a reset for you.

40YearOldDad · 08/01/2026 15:50

Charge our daughter £200 a month. Some months she costs me way more than £200 😂 I'm sure I paid this about 25 years ago.

She's currently doing an apprenticeship and earns about 22k per year.

BreadInCaptivity · 08/01/2026 15:49

Mapleleaf114 · 08/01/2026 15:45

I know, question remains, why do british parents encourage their children having under age sex, where i come from it would make a case for social services because parents dont know or care whre their child is and what they are doing, noway 14 needs or is mature enough for a romantic relationship

You are assuming without any evidence they were having under age sex.

I had a boyfriend at 14. I didn’t have a sexual relationship until I was 18.

BreadInCaptivity · 08/01/2026 15:47

@MumTeapot5would suggest before speaking to your DD you research some local housing options like flat shares/renting to show her and the costs.

You need to lay out the reality of the bargin £30 has been and the consequences of her (and BF) taking the piss has been that this will be raised (even if you plan to put some aside for her).

Point out those rates don’t include utility costs and food.

Mapleleaf114 · 08/01/2026 15:45

BreadInCaptivity · 08/01/2026 15:43

She’s 19 not 14. 14 is when she and her boyfriend started dating. You need to read the posts more carefully.

I know, question remains, why do british parents encourage their children having under age sex, where i come from it would make a case for social services because parents dont know or care whre their child is and what they are doing, noway 14 needs or is mature enough for a romantic relationship

BreadInCaptivity · 08/01/2026 15:43

Mapleleaf114 · 08/01/2026 15:41

off topic but why does a 14 year old need a boyfriend- for what, sex? Why are parents encouraging children having sex?

She’s 19 not 14. 14 is when she and her boyfriend started dating. You need to read the posts more carefully.

Mapleleaf114 · 08/01/2026 15:41

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

off topic but why does a 14 year old need a boyfriend- for what, sex? Why are parents encouraging children having sex?

outerspacepotato · 08/01/2026 15:38

First, BF can no longer stay overnight. He's an adult who is costing you money and your spoiled daughter doesn't want to pay her way. I think it's a very bad idea to have bfs staying the night with younger kids in the home. He does his laundry at his home.

Time for a sit down. She wanted the downstairs and she got her way. She knew what living in a family home is like. She's being a brat. This is your family home with the noise a larger family makes and she can suck it up or move out.

She pays higher rent or moves out.

The nearly free ride and her bratty attitude is O.V.E.R.

Wsiw71 · 08/01/2026 15:37

Spoilt Brat syndrome: She should be paying one-third of her weekly/monthly wage, plus she does her own laundry (including towels and bedding) and cleans her own room plus another area. No one else, outside family or your guests, are allowed to sleep, do laundry, eat at yours ever. Also she moves into a bedroom upstairs and she is part of the family regarding noise and cleaning up.

So that you do not build resentment within your family these rules should apply to all your children as they become adults and have full time jobs. I suggest you begin now with the younger ones as they start secondary school.

hourspassed · 08/01/2026 15:32

Just wow.

I agree with all the pps on this. Her attitude moaning about noise in the house is unbelievable. £30 a week is very little - does the bf pay anything? The idea of upping the rent and saving half for her is a great idea - we did this with our DC. If she doesn't like it then I'd tell her the other option is moving out. I would also send the bf packing to his own house and agree to one night a week (if that!) They are both taking the piss (massively) and you and DH are way too soft.

Edit to say why on earth are you letting her sleep til lunchtime - unless she works till 4am this is ridiculous also.

Epidote · 08/01/2026 15:12

She is taking the piss. 30 quid a week is a bargain. She can go to an upstairs bedroom if she doesn't want the normal noise or move out and pay the full rent.
Cleaning is also not negotiable.

TinyCottageGirl · 08/01/2026 15:03

Wow - this is incredibly entitled indeed! I was paying £200 a month from 18, then upped to £400 from 20 and had absolutely no say in family being quiet in the day time! You need to tell her, her BF needs to do his washing at his own home and if she doesn't want to pay keep he isn't allowed to stay anymore. She can do her own food shopping also moving forward. It's going to be a real shock whe she learns about real bills and how much water, electric, food all costs! Maybe you could show her the bills - divide it by number of family and show what it actually does cost to keep her!

Zanatdy · 08/01/2026 14:55

sorry but tough luck re not sleeping in past lunchtime. They need their own place if they want to call the shots. If one of my young adults told me they were now paying half the rent they’d be told to find their own place. I’d tell her the rent is £30 and that’s way too cheap, but it’s not being halved and if you want to save some of it for her do, but do not tell her or give her options. She is very entitled and walking all over you. I’d tell her bf stays 2 night max and move in with his parents if she’s not happy.