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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

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OneShyQuail · 08/01/2026 17:48

FishPie2 · 08/01/2026 17:22

OP said on the first page that her daughter works and sometimes does overtime and this has been mentioned in many posts.

Cheers for the update, missed that somewhere on first page, cant pretend ive read past page 3 😂

Point still stands, if shes working she can contribute more

Ponderingwindow · 08/01/2026 17:44

If she behaved like this with roommates she would not be very popular.

You are not doing her any favors by being so lax.

She should be paying more than a token rent. Right now she feels flush with cash because she has barely any responsibilities. She has no sense of what real life is like. You can put the excess isn’t savings.

She needs to be considerate of the people she lives with. She is asking for consideration but not giving it in return. You need house rules and they should apply to everyone.

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You’re a charmer.

Grammarnut · 08/01/2026 17:38

My DSS charged his DS and DD £30 a week. I would think this is the standard rate. If your DD only pays £15 then she does her own shopping - and make it so, with locks on cupboards and fridge if necessary. Explain that this is because she is using electricity etc, that council tax is paid, and that she is using the facilities of the house, so if she only pays £15 a week then she must buy her own food (which will cost her more than £15, as she will discover).
You are teaching responsibility here, and not only is that fair, it is necessary.
Stop the boyfriend staying.

saraclara · 08/01/2026 17:36

She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.

Seriously, how dare she speak to you like that? Is she in the habit of doing so? I can't begin to imagine either of my kids talking to me like that.

She dictated which room she had, she's dictating what you do with the washing, she's dictating what she pays... It's almost unbelievable. You and your DH need to grow some balls, frankly @MumTeapot5

Bonbon21 · 08/01/2026 17:33

You are not treating like the adult she believes herself to be.. although she is not behaving like that adult either!

ONE FIFTH of her take-home pay as rent, she does chores, her own laundry and any cleaning up after her ( and her boyfriends) cooking efforts. She is responsible for cleaning her own room etc. Any laundry she leaves in the washer/dryer gets dumped in a basket and put in her room. Her boyfriend stays over one night per week only, and takes his laundry home with him.

If any of the above is unacceptable she can live elsewhere and experience the real world as opposed to the one she believes she is entitled to.
Time for tough love, you are not doing her any favours letting her behave like this at her age.

CraftyMintHedgehog · 08/01/2026 17:32

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 13:08

I’m going to speak to DH when we are home tonight and suggest we up her rent and tell her if she doesn’t like it she can go to her boyfriends parents house and stay there or she moves out. We will put this to her while her boyfriend isn’t around and tell her that unless he starts paying some keep towards he will be staying at home and only welcome once a week as opposed to the 5 days he stays here including the weekend. I thought I was being unfair but I see that maybe we are being too soft x

I would sit down and show her the cost of bills. Gas, elec, council tax, food etc...

e.g.
Gas £1000
Elec £1000
CT £3400
Water £600
Food £10,000
TV/Internet/Netflix £150

Yearly Total = £16,150
Monthly = £1345.

7 people in the family, so each person's share is £192.

So therefore her and her boyfriend need to pay £200 a month each.

Horses7 · 08/01/2026 17:31

Flippin’ Nora - if she asked you all to move out so she and boyfriend can have the whole house would you? I wouldn’t be surprised as you are giving her a VERY easy ride.
Get tough she is an entitled, selfish brat. ( Sorry don’t like to use brat but sadly it sums her up).

MayaPinion · 08/01/2026 17:29

You are far too soft on her. She has a brilliant deal at £30 a week (that’s £120 a month - even if she’s on minimum wage that’s 1.5 days work). For context, my 19yo DD is at uni in a relatively cheap part of the country and pays £450 a month in rent plus bills, and that’s for a small room in a 3 bedroom flat). Your DD completely taking the piss. £15 a week probably barely covers their daily showers.

FishPie2 · 08/01/2026 17:22

OneShyQuail · 08/01/2026 16:57

  1. Why on earth is boyfriends washing being done at yours? Sounds like hes there a hell of a lot. Limit the stop overs.
  2. Does she work? A third pf her wage should go to you. Save some of it for a deposit for her.
If she doesnt work, why not?
  1. Offer once more to move bedrooms.
  2. Show her how much it is to rent a 1 bed flat / houseshare
  3. Ask them if they'd prefer to live there instead? If not tell them to stop moaning and you need to stop being so soft!

OP said on the first page that her daughter works and sometimes does overtime and this has been mentioned in many posts.

MyDeftDuck · 08/01/2026 17:20

Well, if she lived here with that attitude she would come home from work to find her bags on the doorstep………and £15 a week board and lodging???? She’s taking the piss!

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 08/01/2026 17:19

Agree with everyone, her behaviour is out of order and she needs to be told that she’s behaving like a brat.

Rent - £150 per month (maybe work out how that compares to her share of food and bills). Cleaning up dishes etc. is non-negotiable. The bf doesn’t live there so he can do his washing in own house. Any wet washing left in machine will be left by her bedroom door. BF to stay over no more than two nights per week. Any extra nights £10 per night contribution to food and bills. And definitely no tiptoeing about so she can have a lie in!

if she doesn’t like it, she needs to move out.

Newyearawaits · 08/01/2026 17:16

Hi OP
Your daughter's behaviour is overwhelmingly entitled and she is impacting on the whole Family.
This needs to be nipped in the bud b4 it escalates further.
Seems like you are tip toeing around her and resentment is understandably growing.
£30 pw is a pittance. It might be reasonable if she was appreciative and perhaps saving for a deposit or similar.
A frank conversation is required.
Take care OP

PopcornKitten · 08/01/2026 17:08

Sorry OP but her behaviour is terrible. You need to stand firm. It sounds like she is trying to dominate the whole family.

NewYearSameYou · 08/01/2026 17:06

Tell her to move out if she doesn't like it.

Fulmine · 08/01/2026 17:02

wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc.

So what's his solution? Are you supposed to leave his stuff in the washer till he deigns to deal with it, and put all the rest of the family's washing on hold till then? He'll be moaning even more when his damp washing starts growing mould.

OneShyQuail · 08/01/2026 16:57
  1. Why on earth is boyfriends washing being done at yours? Sounds like hes there a hell of a lot. Limit the stop overs.
  2. Does she work? A third pf her wage should go to you. Save some of it for a deposit for her.
If she doesnt work, why not?
  1. Offer once more to move bedrooms.
  2. Show her how much it is to rent a 1 bed flat / houseshare
  3. Ask them if they'd prefer to live there instead? If not tell them to stop moaning and you need to stop being so soft!
Littlejellyuk · 08/01/2026 16:42

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

What the fuck did I just read?
Your house, your rules. 💯
Swap the bedroom to upstairs 👍
Stop the overnight stays. 👎
You are not a laundromat or a maids service, sack off doing their laundry and their dishes.🖕

If she wants to live there, she can pay keep. 💰
I paid my parents £200 pcm, and that was 20 years ago. As well as buying some food shopping on top. 😇
She's getting the bargain of the century 😠
She's being a spoilt little brat and if she doesn't like It, she can always go and live in her boyfriends family home with his precious socks. 😆

Edited to add: she needs a taste of the real world, does she know how to budget? Maybe go through the 50/30/20 rule, so she realises that all her wages are not just her disposable income for her social life and that normal day to day life costs money with bills and responsibilities etc? 😉

@MumTeapot5

frowningnotdrowning · 08/01/2026 16:38

Spareroom website for her to look at the cost of renting a room in a house with a shared kitchen so same as what she has living with you. That way she knows what the alternative is.

Then she also needs to remember if she moves out that she will be buying all her own food and cooking or preparing every meal she has.

Ds2 is at uni, his food shop for 1 person is over £35 a week. For her to be paying £30 rent is an absolute bargain but she clearly doesn't know how much a weekly shop of food is.

When my friend was preparing her DD for moving out of home she gave her a cupboard shelf and a fridge shelf and basically if she hadn't bought it, she didn't get to access it. One morning she had run out of butter and went to get the butter from the family shelf but was stopped by her younger sibling who said if this was your own place you wouldn't have butter. This was all after she had complained that she was paying £25 board for all food, laundry being done etc and that was 10 years ago.

Family meeting, they must clean up after themselves otherwise I would be waking her up when I wake up and find that mess greeting me. Boyfriend has a limit to how many days he stays over and the cheeky fucker should be paying you something as he is using your water and eating some of your food and drinks.

lifeisgoodrightnow · 08/01/2026 16:36

I’d tell her to move out

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Pinkladyapplepie · 08/01/2026 16:32

My youngest in final uni year. Other 3 didn't come to live back at home after uni. Youngest had a placement last year working in industry, I charged him £50 per week, he bought his own snacks, paid his own phone etc. He is back for Xmas and I am not charging him, but it costs £50 just for his food per week, live is expensive your DD needs to realise this and also how to live decently when sharing with others, my son is the tidiest in his house share of 8 males and females, drives him mad when ppl don't wash up, take bins out etc.

Ginburee · 08/01/2026 16:28

You needs a family meeting, she is behaving like an entitled brat and the bf is taking advantage.
I assume he is paying no keep and you are covering his food, washing powder etc, electricity??
You need to put your foot down firmly.

Boomer55 · 08/01/2026 16:23

Tell them both to find their own housing. 🙄

Elektra1 · 08/01/2026 16:21

Time for her to move out and find out what life costs as an adult

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