If you are on weight loss injections, what do you make of this article?

If that were so, why is it that we have an obesity epidemic? Why are all those people dieting conventionally not staying slim? People have been dieting for many, many decades and yet the global population is only getting fatter. That doesn't seem to fit with the logic of your argument.

Wow. For your information, I am a recovered bulimic and have been positively so for years. So positive, in fact, that I can now try to lose weight I've gained in menopause using traditional methods and not be triggered. Going on these meds would most likely trigger me, which is why sensibly providers won't prescribe them to anyone with a history of ED.

But trying to use my ED to try to boot me off the thread is as fucking low as anything I've read from anyone in the pro-WLI brigade. You should be ashamed.

There is absolutely a massive element of this.

In fact I’d say it’s 99% of the reason - this is my own opinion as someone who is very interested in psychology.

I completely agree!

I have fortunately been able to maintain a healthy weight without the injections but I know a few years ago I would have bitten someone’s hand off for them!

But unfortunately they are not a magic wand and research and peoples experiences are showing that there are a lot more downsides than people first realised.

I think it’s so rude of these posters to be so dismissive of other people’s experiences.

If they genuinely want to promote the WLI’s then they should be giving posters unbiased opinions rather than bullying any poster who dares say they’re anything less than perfect.

I lost 20kg on MJ a year ago and largely kept it off with small fluctuations. I was only on 2.5 ml, had very little appetite in the first few days of taking it each week and then more hunger in the last 2-3 days. In the first days I to some extent forced myself to eat more than I could get away with, because I didn't want to lose weight too quickly and give my body a stress signal. I get anxiety and insomnia if I restrict calories too much, my body just lets me know it's not happy. The benefit of MJ was being able to overhaul the bad emotional snacking/overeating habits which developed due to the chronic condition and stressful events in the last years, it just gave me a break to redesign my eating, what's available in the house, notice how I had thoughts about snacks when I wasn't in the least hungry because of habit/emotional needs. I worked on that and found other ways to manage emotions and tiredness. I took weight loss very slowly compared to the majority of what I'm seeing in the WLJ community. Brought regular strength training back into my life. My hormonal balance massively improved once I stopped consuming so much sugar, and reduced the need for it and meant I had more energy to be active. I was prepared to tough it out in the first weeks after stopping, I knew hunger would intensify, which it did, but then it stabilised. I am largely able to keep my good habits going now, just the same as I did before weight started piling up and I went down the spiral. I think WLJs can really, really help people like me who ended up with a lot of extra weight after certain events rather it being a life-long battle, because our bodies and minds remember functioning with lower weight. I think it's much, much harder for people with a longer history and higher levels of BMI. Not impossible but much harder.

All I’m saying is that having to resist the cravings/hunger during the diet phase helps staying on track during the maintenance phase.
Obviously it doesn’t always work, but still it works more often than for people stopping injections and suddenly having all the food noise back.

There are many people, say size 14/16/18 that do not qualify for these injections but are very unhappy with their weight.

Could there be a touch of jealousy that an obese person (maybe a friend of said size 14/16/18) is now getting some help and dropping to a size 8/10?

I’m a size 10/12 (always have been) but an adult child of an obese women (size 24/26) so I’m all for these injections as I’ve seen the horrific downside of obesity. So no jealousy from me.

EDIT: I suppose my question is for all those opposing the weight loss injections. Are you jealous?

Right, this is my last post to you as I just can’t do it any more, you’re giving me a headache.

You have not posted any research or data as far as I can see. Some of the things you’ve posted have been easily debunked and explained by numerous posters - but you completely ignore those posts. It really is like screaming into the void.

Don’t post your opinions as fact and there won’t be a problem. Do you really think you can come on threads about WLI’s and say what you like - with no facts to back it ip
and no experience of even taking them yourself - and expect others who are better informed not to question you or tell you you’re incorrect?

You cannot go through life saying things that aren’t true and go unchallenged.

And as an aside, it seems to me with your self confessed obsession with food and dieting - you’d be an ideal WLI candidate.

And I wish you luck, I really do because being obsessed with weight/diet etc is really draining and miserable.

Exactly this! I'm pro-WLI too – I just can't take them because I have a history of eating disorders. I can see how good they are in many cases but like you I find the pro-brigade's aggression when anyone voices caution just shocking. Telling you to step away from threads because you must be triggered rather than engage with your point is beyond condescending.

Don’t take it personally 😂
Any thread that is about WLI’s have strange posters on.

Apparently saying anything slightly negative about WLI’s triggers them and they see it as a personal attack.

It’s weird because if I read posts about other users gaining weight I would want to know more so that I could try and avoid gaining the weight back but these posters just shut them down and try and push them off the threads.

Yes, too early to say. Pretty sobering statistic though if it were to be replicated more broadly.

Are you going to microdose yourself or is your provider onboard with this idea? I’m at my goal weight and I’m not sure where to from here? I feel like I could microdose but this hasn’t been given as an option to me and it seems like off label use.

There definitely is a wider cultural context here, and I don't think everyone realises the extent to which that exists and the fact that they can't opt out of it.

But I do think a lot of people who are wrong/making wild guesses mean well. Obviously one never knows someone's true motives, so maybe I'm misjudging. But my guess is there's a fairly big gap between the sort of person who assumes in good faith that professional support must help obesity because that sounds nice, and stuff like the troll threads (there was a corker yesterday) and people who post because they resent the value of their slimness being lowered.

You will do anything to avoid answering anything that highlights that WLIs aren’t perfect.

It’s not good that you seem to be burying your head in the sand and attacking any poster that says anything negative about WLI’s.
Its not fair to those who are considering it to read biased views.

As someone who has struggled with their weight in the past and has done a lot of research in the area. I understand that it’s not purely greed or laziness that makes people overweight.
I understand the struggles that other women go through and the misinformation that is everywhere and how confusing it can be.

So I am ‘obsessed’ with the subject of weight because for those of us who have struggled with weight issues, it is literally all consuming and perhaps you don’t fully understand that.

I stand by my opinion that I am pro-WLI but they are not perfect.
Without sharing research or giving unbiased views then people like you are setting others up to fail.

Really pleased for you! Well done. 👏

I’ve just realised this too. Gosh I’ll stick to my lovely fasting group on here! Thanks for the solidarity as I was beginning to wonder what was going on?!

The more you come on these threads about WLI, the more you'll realise that anyone who doesn't use them or doesn't automatically agree they are fabulous is treated with condescension and rudeness. It's a shame, because there is clearly good debate to be had.

I haven't read all 13 pages, just the first. But as someone who started WLI in May 2023, lost 7.5st to become a size 6/8 and hit target in March 2025... I'm still maintaining off medication.
I did indeed change my habits. I changed a lot of things. I did no excercise or walking before. I now try to average 10k steps per day (some days 3k is all I can do, but I do 20k some days). I also go to the gym and weight lift 3 times a week come rain or shine.
I can no longer significantly over eat. My body will only allow me to eat so many calories over before it physically hurts (for example if we have a meal out etc). The next few days my calorie intake naturally reduces to compensate. I track my calories so I have been able to see this happening. It's quite fascinating really.
So yes, it is possible to keep the weight off. You do need to change your lifestyle. The best way to change it is little changes though. Go at it slowly, but steadily and before you know it you will have set the foundations for your future health. WLI were instrumental in that, for me at least. They gave me breathing space.

That’s still really good. Sounds like you’re doing well on it.

This is a good point.

I think a much better (but much more invasive) alternative is a weight loss band, or whatever the new improved version of this is.

A friend had one put in a couple of years ago in Eastern Europe. A year later she went back to the same area for a face-lift as she’d lost so much weight.

She’s 54 and now looks incredible - almost like a celebrity. She’s not wealthy by any means though - it just costs a fraction of the price over there. No chance of the weight returning either.

This is exactly it.

I fear they are just here to argue and spout nonsense though.

It’s actually fascinating from a psychological perspective (I always say this). I can’t imagine anyone getting so het up about medication for depression or heart conditions.

I’ve been on MN 15 years and never seen the like. It’s an obsession.

It seems that when it’s to do with weight, everyone has an opinion (and will try to pass their opinion off as fact - which we cannot allow!)

This is lovely to hear. And when you do have a child please do all you can to remain a healthy weight for their sake too.

I’m an adult child of an obese mother and I can’t remember her ever being slim. By the time I was 15, her 45, I could see her struggles (to work, walk etc) which worried me sick. Her health deteriorated over the next 30 years since ALL because of the weight and made everything so so much harder for us all. She’s now housebound, incontinent, has a large heart, osteoarthritis - you name it, she’s got it and yes, it’s ALL because she had to lug so much body fat around everyday. I truly wish this drug had been available for her 40 years ago.

Keep the weight off - keep up the swimming - do whatever you can to remain a healthy weight.

@MrsSkylerWhite because I had not understood from the research published that those on WLI regained four times faster than those losing weight conventionally, hence me asking you where you had heard that information that you were quoting as though it were an absolute fact. I was curious!

I understand very well, thank you. Read my post above. My husband has been prescribed WL medication for some years and we are fully conversant with data.