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To not want dp to get tested to be a donor?

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Born2 · 07/01/2026 21:08

Bit of a unusual one.

Been with dp for 3 years and we have a 2yo and I'm 36 weeks pregnant.

Last week he received an message on FB from his ex, telling him he had a son, now 13/14 and he needed a kidney transplant and asked dp to test if he was a match. DP didn't know about him but he went to visit him in hospital today. He's on dialysis and is really unwell but he told dp that he “doesn't need a dad” and that was that.

Seeing how unwell he was dp wants to test to see if he's a match but I don't. Especially as dp wouldn't have known about him if it wasn't for this, he doesn't know 100% he is the dad! And its an urgent op so ill likely give birth while he's still recovering and it's a big op so he won't be much use. I don't have family support etc. The Mum said she can't do it.

AIBU?

OP posts:
minipie · 08/01/2026 11:34

He and he alone has the right to that decision. Which is why the OP is getting a hard time. Because as things stand, he wants to be tested. And she’s trying to talk him out of it. And that’s not her place.

Lots of posters saying this. That the OP shouldn’t try to persuade him.

I’m not sure I agree. I agree that in the end the final decision is his, of course. But if I were in the DP’s position, of course I would want my wife’s input. I would want to know her view. I would need to understand the impact on her, that would be one of the factors I would take into account. I would make my own decision but it would include considering her view. It’s bizarre to me to suggest that she simply says “it’s up to you” without offering a view.

She isn’t pressuring him, she isn’t giving him ultimatums, shouting and crying, or coercing him in any way. She’s just saying she would rather he didn’t and pointing out the impact on her and their toddler and future baby. I think that’s ok.

Ofcoursenot2026 · 08/01/2026 10:58

So yep, as stated, he's not a meat sack filled with donor parts. Hacking out a kidney, just like any operation, can kill you. And there are long term psychological and health implications from having a functional organ removed. We have two for a reason.

It needs to be entirely his choice and he is absolutely NOT a bad person if he says no.

And of course he must get a DNA test first, anything else would be ludicrous.

As for OP she has absolutely every right in the world to be concerned, her fears are valid.

But she doesn't have the right to coerce him. And I did not, at any time, in any way, remotely suggest otherwise.

Ofcoursenot2026 · 08/01/2026 10:55

Oftenaddled · 08/01/2026 10:37

But this whole scenario is invented. Of course it would be unethical to jump on him and pressure him into signing away his kidney without thinking. But you can't do that.

The testing process is about three things: your physical health, your match, and your consent to donate. They take you through the risks again and again. They respect your confidence. There is at least one interview with a psychologist, another with an official whose job is to make sure donations are voluntary, lots of advice and every opportunity to step away. You have a separate medical team. Mine literally never spoke to me about my recipient's situation, their risks or benefits - they were entirely focused on me.

So the testing isn't just, see if there's a match and cut out the kidney. It's about whether he's comfortable donating, and how it fits with his other responsibilities, and even whether he has family support. I think that one good reason for OP to support her DH for testing is that it will give them full information. For example, you learn your current and estimated future kidney function.

OP has written as if her DH is being pressured to donate now in a rush, but he wouldn't actually be allowed to, even if he wanted to. It's only a deceased donor kidney that could be transplanted that soon.

None of your comment is relevant to a single thing I said.

Ofcoursenot2026 · 08/01/2026 10:54

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 08/01/2026 10:37

But this is precisely the point. It needs to be his decision.

I absolutely agree that becoming a living donor is a personal choice and isn’t one everyone would feel equipped to make.

And if he decided he couldn’t go through with it then that should be respected.

However, no-one else deserves that same respect. He and he alone has the right to that decision. Which is why the OP is getting a hard time. Because as things stand, he wants to be tested. And she’s trying to talk him out of it. And that’s not her place.

None of your comment is relevant to my comment in any way.

Oftenaddled · 08/01/2026 10:52

Rosscameasdoody · 08/01/2026 08:22

The time to decide that is after she has been tested to see if she’s a match.

No - they won't test to see if you're a match if you have any condition that would make it risky to donate or make your kidney unlikely to do well for the recipient.

Matching is months into the process. You start by giving your medical history and your GP notes. Lots of people are disqualified at that point.

And they won't just take your kidney because you want to ignore the risks to you - surgeons can't do that. Any kidney isn't better than no kidney - a transplanted kidney can give you cancer or blood disorders if things aren't managed properly.

Most people, seven out of ten, who come forward don't qualify to donate a kidney, so it's not surprising if the mother can't.

nomas · 08/01/2026 10:51

Cocomelon67 · 07/01/2026 21:09

This must be really shocking news and I get why it would be unwelcome for you. That said, your DP absolutely should be tested and donate if he can.

Er, no, he needs to get a DNA test first. Don’t be so gullible.

Oftenaddled · 08/01/2026 10:42

GAJLY · 08/01/2026 07:41

Is it something he could do 6 months after the baby’s born? So he’s there for you both when it’s hard with a newborn. Is there a reason the mum hasn’t been tested herself? That in itself is strange. Is it worth doing a dna test to ensure he is his son first?

Yes - if OP is now 36 weeks pregnant it's really unlikely they'd be doing this before the baby is six months.

If he's a great match and they don't need to find another pair, and no extra tests are needed, and the boy is already fit enough for the operation, you're still probably looking at 8 to 10 months and then you get a choice in the schedule. So people delay to suit things like exams, work, holidays, caring responsibilities all the time.

I doubt his donor team would want him supporting while the baby is very small, and certainly not around the time baby's due.

KimberleyClark · 08/01/2026 10:41

namechangetheworld · 08/01/2026 10:12

Where did OP say that?

She said she hasn't been tested, not won't.

I would say it's blindingly obvious that there's a medical reason preventing her from being a donor. Heart disease, kidney disease, lung cancer, breast cancer, diabetes...Why would she go to the effort of having her brothers test and then tracking down a random bloke that she clearly didn't consider fit to to be father beforehand other than absolute desperation?

I agree with this, I think she would have donated if she could. What mother wouldn’t? And the fact she has tracked down the man she told she had aborted his baby shows she must be pretty desperate.

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 08/01/2026 10:39

LeonMccogh · 08/01/2026 10:31

Or we’re transplant recipients ourselves with a whole other perspective on what’s actually important here.

This.

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 08/01/2026 10:37

Ofcoursenot2026 · 08/01/2026 09:58

Right. He's not a meat sack filled with donor parts. Hacking out a kidney, just like any operation, can kill you. And there are long term psychological and health implications from having a functional organ removed. We have two for a reason.

It needs to be entirely his choice and he is absolutely NOT a bad person if he says no.

But this is precisely the point. It needs to be his decision.

I absolutely agree that becoming a living donor is a personal choice and isn’t one everyone would feel equipped to make.

And if he decided he couldn’t go through with it then that should be respected.

However, no-one else deserves that same respect. He and he alone has the right to that decision. Which is why the OP is getting a hard time. Because as things stand, he wants to be tested. And she’s trying to talk him out of it. And that’s not her place.

Oftenaddled · 08/01/2026 10:37

Ofcoursenot2026 · 08/01/2026 09:58

Right. He's not a meat sack filled with donor parts. Hacking out a kidney, just like any operation, can kill you. And there are long term psychological and health implications from having a functional organ removed. We have two for a reason.

It needs to be entirely his choice and he is absolutely NOT a bad person if he says no.

But this whole scenario is invented. Of course it would be unethical to jump on him and pressure him into signing away his kidney without thinking. But you can't do that.

The testing process is about three things: your physical health, your match, and your consent to donate. They take you through the risks again and again. They respect your confidence. There is at least one interview with a psychologist, another with an official whose job is to make sure donations are voluntary, lots of advice and every opportunity to step away. You have a separate medical team. Mine literally never spoke to me about my recipient's situation, their risks or benefits - they were entirely focused on me.

So the testing isn't just, see if there's a match and cut out the kidney. It's about whether he's comfortable donating, and how it fits with his other responsibilities, and even whether he has family support. I think that one good reason for OP to support her DH for testing is that it will give them full information. For example, you learn your current and estimated future kidney function.

OP has written as if her DH is being pressured to donate now in a rush, but he wouldn't actually be allowed to, even if he wanted to. It's only a deceased donor kidney that could be transplanted that soon.

LeonMccogh · 08/01/2026 10:34

Silverbirchleaf · 08/01/2026 10:33

A point worth considering.

The OP’s a bad person if she guilts him out of being tested though.

Silverbirchleaf · 08/01/2026 10:33

Ofcoursenot2026 · 08/01/2026 09:58

Right. He's not a meat sack filled with donor parts. Hacking out a kidney, just like any operation, can kill you. And there are long term psychological and health implications from having a functional organ removed. We have two for a reason.

It needs to be entirely his choice and he is absolutely NOT a bad person if he says no.

A point worth considering.

LeonMccogh · 08/01/2026 10:31

Liveafr · 08/01/2026 09:55

I agree too. I assume all those who jump at OP's throat also regularly donate blood/plasma/platelets to save the lives of children treated for leukemia- otherwise they're massive hypocrites.

Or we’re transplant recipients ourselves with a whole other perspective on what’s actually important here.

Oftenaddled · 08/01/2026 10:24

ThatBlackCat · 08/01/2026 07:14

Um, @keeponandonandon , how about you read all of OP's replies on here before posting.

The MOTHER can't even be BOTHERED to be tested and refuses to be tested, to save her own son! Why is the gaslighting and blaming the OP, a 36 week pregnant vulnerable woman, ok, but you don't hold the 'mother' to the same standards? Since you clearly missed it, from the OP: The mum hasn't been tested, no.

WHY HASN'T THE MOTHER BEEN TESTED??? Why is she refusing to be tested? Why attack a woman who is 36 weeks pregnant, with a child at home, wanting her partner to be well enough to be with her, when the deadbeat mother can't be bothered to be tested, herself? How about she get tested first? Huh? How about that?

The mother also kept OP's partner out of her son's life out of spite, and only contacts him now she wants something (that she isn't prepared to give, herself): OP says:

DP was 18 when he was born, he was only with his ex for a few months and it wasn't even a “proper” relationship he said as he was going to uni a few months later. They apparently split up but his ex wanted to try long distance (even though he was Against it from the start), she told him she was pregnant and he basically said he'd support her but they weren't getting back together and she then told him she had an abortion and they didn't really have much contact after that as they had no mutual friends or anything.

What a real charmer of a mother she is. A real beauty, aint she? Yet you're attacking the OP for understandably, wanting her partner with her during the birth of their child, and with their child at home.

Edited

Many many people don't qualify for testing.

The first step as a potential donor is to fill out a full medical history, and details of this can disqualify you on the spot. It's a waste of NHS resources to go further and test if that happens, so they don't.

Only 3 out of 10 people who apply to be considered can go ahead. That's not including matching. It's just whether they are fit to donate.

So it's more likely than not that this woman just doesn't qualify.

Naunet · 08/01/2026 10:23

ThatBlackCat · 08/01/2026 09:48

Then she'd get tested herself.

Again, you have no idea about her situation whatsoever.

namechangetheworld · 08/01/2026 10:12

ThatBlackCat · 08/01/2026 07:24

That 'mother of a terminally ill child' won't even get tested!

Where did OP say that?

She said she hasn't been tested, not won't.

I would say it's blindingly obvious that there's a medical reason preventing her from being a donor. Heart disease, kidney disease, lung cancer, breast cancer, diabetes...Why would she go to the effort of having her brothers test and then tracking down a random bloke that she clearly didn't consider fit to to be father beforehand other than absolute desperation?

Ofcoursenot2026 · 08/01/2026 09:58

Amberlynnswashcloth · 08/01/2026 06:03

If this is real it all sounds a bit unethical.

A man is contacted out of the blue and advised that he has a child and is then put under pressure to sign away an organ with no paternity test, no discussion of risk/benefit/potential outcomes and zero counselling.

Seriously unwell child in hospital is introduced to random man who may or may not be his father in the context of needing to ask for a body part.

Child's medical information shared with potentially a complete stranger and his wife.

Pregnant wife told she's selfish and abhorrent for being concerned about above and for not offering up her husband to be incapacitated, potentially long term sick, unable to work and care for the family.

Right. He's not a meat sack filled with donor parts. Hacking out a kidney, just like any operation, can kill you. And there are long term psychological and health implications from having a functional organ removed. We have two for a reason.

It needs to be entirely his choice and he is absolutely NOT a bad person if he says no.

Liveafr · 08/01/2026 09:55

FOJN · 08/01/2026 08:06

I'm appalled at the treatment OP is getting on this thread. She is having a child with a man who did not know he already had a child. That child, regardless of their health problems, is a stranger to both OP and her partner so of course she is going to prioritise her own child. Donating a kidney is no small matter and the surgery itself carries the same type of risk as any other surgery, including death.

It is heartening to see so many people insistent that saving a child's life should take priority over everything else going on in someone's life. There are between 270 -300 children waiting for organs, mostly kidneys, at anytime and anyone can investigate their suitability to become a living donor. Maybe all of those giving OP a hard time can put their money where their mouth is and solve the problem of children dying whilst waiting for organs.

https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/about-donation/living-donation/

I agree too. I assume all those who jump at OP's throat also regularly donate blood/plasma/platelets to save the lives of children treated for leukemia- otherwise they're massive hypocrites.

ThatBlackCat · 08/01/2026 09:48

Naunet · 08/01/2026 09:31

Nice. You have no idea what the mother is going through.

Then she'd get tested herself.

Naunet · 08/01/2026 09:31

ThatBlackCat · 08/01/2026 08:35

If the mother doesn't care about the dying child, why is it the responsibility of the OP.

Nice. You have no idea what the mother is going through.

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 08/01/2026 08:56

ThatBlackCat · 08/01/2026 08:52

I don't buy it. She would have said the reason why as the reason for the contact with DP. If it was something real like that, she would have said.

I think it's really cruel to tear strips off the OP for her being in a situation she didn't even ask for or expect, when she is about to give birth, all because she is rightly, wisely cautious.

You don’t know she hasn’t said. All you know is that the OP has said she hasn’t been tested.

OP has only posted twice, and then only very briefly, so the OP isn’t exactly a reliable source here given she probably doesn’t know all the answers herself.

As for suggesting that the DP only be tested on condition the mother is, you don’t put conditions on things like that. Either he feels he wants to be tested, or he doesn’t. And the instant he puts pressure on the mother will be the instant she is turned down as a possible match, because one of the questions you are asked as part of the process is whether you are being coerced in any way, and emotional blackmail (either you get tested or I won’t) definitely counts.

Sartre · 08/01/2026 08:55

It must be a terrible shock, it’s the sort of news anyone would dread hearing. Having said that, if he can save a child’s life then how amazing would that be? It doesn’t matter whether he is the father or not, he could save someone’s life. I’d let him have the tests because he might not even match.

ThatBlackCat · 08/01/2026 08:52

Needspaceforlego · 08/01/2026 08:49

Who said the mother doesn't care. Thats an extremely cruel accusation.
The mum might have been ruled out as a donor for her own health reasons.

I've had a blood transfusion I am not allowed to give blood, I'm guessing kidneys are the same.

I don't buy it. She would have said the reason why as the reason for the contact with DP. If it was something real like that, she would have said.

I think it's really cruel to tear strips off the OP for her being in a situation she didn't even ask for or expect, when she is about to give birth, all because she is rightly, wisely cautious.

Needspaceforlego · 08/01/2026 08:49

ThatBlackCat · 08/01/2026 08:35

If the mother doesn't care about the dying child, why is it the responsibility of the OP.

Who said the mother doesn't care. Thats an extremely cruel accusation.
The mum might have been ruled out as a donor for her own health reasons.

I've had a blood transfusion I am not allowed to give blood, I'm guessing kidneys are the same.

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