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To think being a reader doesn't make you better or smarter?

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OnceaReaderNeveraReader · 07/01/2026 16:25

Never been a reader. I have tried many times in my life and have enjoyed the odd book here and there but have never managed to actually become a regular reader and don't miss books ever. I was talking about this with some colleagues the other day and one of them made me feel a bit bad about this as if reading is a sign of better intellectual ability and superiority.
I am uni educated and enjoy a variety of other cultural hobbies such as art, theatre and dance but I just cannot understand what is so special about books!
How does one become a reader later in life and is it really that bad if I don't enjoy it?

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tipsyraven · 07/01/2026 22:07

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/01/2026 16:51

They don’t have the depth though.

It more being passive or active. So more reading is more active than watching something, or so I have read.

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 22:05

Gwenhwyfar · 07/01/2026 19:32

Take the Salt Path, for example. The publishers obviously didn't see the need to fact check it.

Anyone can write on the internet, but once it's widely read there are also plenty of people to correct things, as works quite well on Wikipedia.

I'm not sure about that. Wiki is fine if you check each fact has a proper citation but there is a lot of dodgy stuff on there too.

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 22:02

RightOnTheEdge · 07/01/2026 19:14

I think being a reader has broadened my horizons and increased my knowledge and given me a wider vocabulary, however I don't think that it makes me better than non readers.

Some readers like to look down on other readers and think they are superior to them because they think their choice of books is trashy or because they read on an Kindle instead of reading a real book or lots of other reasons.

Don't take any notice of book snobs OP.

Kindle isn't bad- I do think reading on a screen too much may be bad for the eyes

NotnowMildrid · 07/01/2026 22:01

Personally I think one can gain so much more knowledge and information from reading.

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 22:01

comeandhaveteawithme · 07/01/2026 19:09

I'm a reader. I definitely don't think it makes me "better or smarter" than other people.

TBH, I think that's something that people who don't read project onto others, not the other way around.

I've always read. It was just normal in my (extremely working class, not particularly well educated parents, mostly lived in poverty) childhood home. We didn't have a lot of money, didn't have the games consoles my friends had, there were six kids and one TV. Books were just the best available thing I could entertain myself with. That and drawing/colouring. So that's what I did.

I didn't realise until adulthood that not everyone reads and that reading is seen as some sort of highbrow pursuit by some. To me, it's just normal and I don't sit there with a book feeling all superior, I just get on with it.

It's really sad when people feel reading is a highbrow pursuit. My local library is a community hub & I hope it helps foster that feeling that books are not something to be enjoyed only by a select few.

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 21:58

justpassmethemouse · 07/01/2026 18:54

No they aren’t? The internet is updated constantly with new information. Books go out of date the second anything changes after the publisher has hit print.

How reliable is it though? Constant updating doesn't equal reliability

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 21:57

A big one for me is learning about different cultures. Non fiction esp journalism & travel writing is good for this.

And of course novels! I read Pachinko recently & wanted to read more about Korea, so started some Korean language novels (there's been a translation boom recently, esp Korean women I think). That's one of the best things about reading.

Also if like me you're a nosy person : it's an ethical form of eavesdropping. And so relaxing to take a break from one's own life for a bit.

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 21:55

MangaKanga · 07/01/2026 21:49

Neville Shute is like reading the abridged and simplified A2 or B1 version of a good writer, I always think

Hmm... I read A Town Like Alice a long while ago. My school was good for English & recommended him on a long mostly literary list. But there were some on there more for historical context etc than strictly literary. They also noted On The Beach, which is interesting probably for early nuclear age plot, though I've not yet read it.

ByPeachPeer · 07/01/2026 21:51

Im a massive reader, always have been since being a kid and love it. I'm totally thick in so many other ways that would actually benefit me in day to day life and it really means nothing. Just a hobby as also there's a million book choices you could make and be judged on your intellect off that. It's bollocks, ignore it.

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 21:50

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 07/01/2026 18:25

I grew up avidly reading anything I could get my hands on. I've forgotten most of it, but every now and again I surprise myself when we're watching some quiz or other on the telly. The answer appears out of my mouth and my family say 'how the hell did you know that?!!'😂

Reading doesn't make you more intelligent, you just know more 'stuff'.

Improves comprehension too, theory of the mind for literary fiction et

MangaKanga · 07/01/2026 21:49

Neville Shute is like reading the abridged and simplified A2 or B1 version of a good writer, I always think

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 21:46

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 07/01/2026 19:53

Gosh. And there was me reading Alistair Maclean, Nevil Shute, Gerald Durrell and National Geographic at the age of 14. Now I know where I went wrong. I should have been paying more attention to the dull as ditchwater Jane Eyre.
Confused

Nevil Shute is literary I think?

goldenloafs · 07/01/2026 21:45

@Zov I think the pertinent question isn't to ask if you are smarter than a specific non reader and more if you are smarter because you read a fair bit than you would have been if you didn't? It's kind of impossible to say subjectively but in studies where they look at it individuals reading habits over time it does show intellectual improvement, so it's likely you are smarter than you would have been otherwise and that your husband might also become even smarter if he did read books.

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 21:44

Papyrophile · 07/01/2026 21:07

TV and films are wonderful if done well, but watching is generally a passive experience. Everything the director wants you to see/know is spoken or shown to you deliberately at the pace of their choosing. I prefer to read, because I read very fast, and I find TV, especially documentaries, mostly very slow and dull. I could read the script, including the filming instructions, in half the time.

I agree re taking longer.

Otoh a novel shows you what the writer wants you to know. I agree films etc are a bit different. Novels can convey things via language, structure, etc that a film cannot. Ofc film has advantages like acting, camera angles etc

Carla786 · 07/01/2026 21:41

ChocolateCinderToffee · 07/01/2026 21:07

I think reading improves your general knowledge because you absorb a lot of information. Most of the reading I do is in the form of novels, and most novels are well researched, so you pick up a lot of facts. For example, I've read a lot of Georgette Heyer's novels and nearly everything I know about the Battle of Waterloo comes from reading one of them. The danger nowadays is that you can go down an internet rabbit-hole and end up believing a great deal of rubbish if you're not careful. I wish children were taught how to discriminate between good sources of information and bad.

Another thing: if you're very intelligent and you don't read, where's the outlet for your mind? Writing?

Heyer's Waterloo is very accurate: apparently even read at Sandhurst

Most novels are very well researched- I'm not so sure of that. They certainly can be but a lot of historical novels are weaker on factual details. Same as books about a job etc which the author has researched. Many are very well researched though.

Zov · 07/01/2026 21:39

Hmmmm, tricky one. It's been proven that reading increases intelligence/can make people smarter, but that doesn't mean non-readers are thick/less intelligent that readers. I am a bit of a reader. (Well, maybe 2-3 novels a month) and I enjoy real life factual stuff too. DH reads nothing - except Twitter and messages on his phone LOL. Yet I am no more intelligent than him.

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 07/01/2026 21:22

I think as long as people get their education/information elsewhere, then it’s fine. DP isn’t a reader and only recently has been diagnosed with dyslexia, but he watches a lot of documentaries etc.

I do think people end up missing out, but to each their own really. A lot is adapted to cinema and TV of course, but more often than not a lot of details has to be left out.

Hicupping · 07/01/2026 21:20

I read for a couple of hours a day, only child gen x raised by my Dad, so no computers until late school, no mobile until a year after graduating and a quiet house with a small B&W telly, taken to library every week as long as can remember to get books. I'm used to it being quiet and I do watch TV but it's what I want to watch when I want to watch it. I couldn't do Eastenders every day. So I think your history matters but I also think we're wired differently. Went to Turner, Whistler exhibtion with some friends, one friend L was in tears. I love art history programes, private life of a masterpiece is a fave but move me to tears just looking at it, no, appreciate beauty, skill, history yes. On the otherhand L came to Royal opera house once, again could appreciate but didn't move her, she didn't come again. Different wiring.

metreinch · 07/01/2026 21:13

Gwenhwyfar · 07/01/2026 18:49

"Mhm, I'm sorry but reading widely does make people more aware, interesting and knowledgable."

Reading novels isn't necessarily reading 'widely' though. I think people who read about current issues on the internet are more aware.

I did say reading widely soboo ks from a broad range of genres, authors periods, fiction as well as non fiction, maybe journals, newspapers.

I think people who read about current issues on the internet are more aware.

If people only get their information from online sources, it will be rather limiting, online reading is often unbalanced and opinion based (aka my truth). Online content is driven by algorithms that show you more of what you already agree with and is often emotionally charged with simplified explanations, which makes it easy for misinformation to spread. Top your internet sources up with some good quality non fiction books. It doesn't have to be either or.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 07/01/2026 21:07

I think reading improves your general knowledge because you absorb a lot of information. Most of the reading I do is in the form of novels, and most novels are well researched, so you pick up a lot of facts. For example, I've read a lot of Georgette Heyer's novels and nearly everything I know about the Battle of Waterloo comes from reading one of them. The danger nowadays is that you can go down an internet rabbit-hole and end up believing a great deal of rubbish if you're not careful. I wish children were taught how to discriminate between good sources of information and bad.

Another thing: if you're very intelligent and you don't read, where's the outlet for your mind? Writing?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/01/2026 21:07

ObelixtheGaul · 07/01/2026 20:01

I have always been an avid reader, but honestly I am not clever. My husband isn't much of a reader at all, but is very much my superior on the brains front.

I'd far rather have had my husband's technical/engineering brain, in many ways.

Though the years of joy I have had from reading books will remain with me for life,I'd honestly trade it all to be good at maths. My employment prospects would have been so much better.

Being ABLE to read is of course very important. But there's a reason a STEM field degree is much more valuable from an employment point of view than an English Literature one. Much as I hate to admit it, practically, my English Literature degree was worthless.

Why are you saying you aren’t clever and comparing yourself to your husband?

An English degree is the equivalent level to a technical degree. Why is Stem prioritised over everything?! I’d much rather have an informed and interesting discussion about literature with you than discussing forces or whatever.

You are equally intelligent!

Papyrophile · 07/01/2026 21:07

TV and films are wonderful if done well, but watching is generally a passive experience. Everything the director wants you to see/know is spoken or shown to you deliberately at the pace of their choosing. I prefer to read, because I read very fast, and I find TV, especially documentaries, mostly very slow and dull. I could read the script, including the filming instructions, in half the time.

ArtesianWater · 07/01/2026 21:05

It doesn't make you 'better' as in superior to others but I'm pretty sure it does make you smarter. I think there's a fair bit of scientific evidence for the positive effects of reading on the brain.

Needmorelego · 07/01/2026 21:04

Nutmuncher · 07/01/2026 20:52

depends on what you’re reading. Jilly Cooper / Catherine Cookson novels aren’t going to expand your knowledge beyond love affairs and dowdy period settings…

I never really liked Catherine Cookson books much but I do like similar authors that come under the "saga" genre.
I went through a phase of Liverpool set novels and many novels set during WW1 and WW2.
This actually led me to a big interest in that era and I began to read more non fiction and history books.
I visited museums such as the Imperial War Museum thanks to this interest.
I have been saying for years I want to visit Liverpool because I became interested in the city through these "historical saga" books - which are often dismissed as "romance".
I also became very interested in the history of womens military and nursing experiences through these books.
Never had the urge to read Jilly Cooper though. Don't know why.

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