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Can a MIL who hates her DIL love her grandchildren?

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Cookiecrumblepie · 07/01/2026 13:30

AIBU to think this is not possible? So if MIL has always been nasty and hateful to DIL, she can’t genuinely love the DILs children and have a great relationship with them? Or is it possible for a MIL to separate the two?

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mumof5five · 08/01/2026 13:54

Can a daughter in law love her husband despite hating his mother? Its the same thing.

Tigger18 · 08/01/2026 13:24

ShesTheAlbatross · 07/01/2026 13:36

Yes I do think it’s absolutely possible. And I think a MIL to a DIL is the only relationship you’d ask this about. If a woman didn’t like her brother’s wife, for example, I don’t think you’d say it wasn’t possible for her to love her nieces and nephews.

My SIL (DHs sister) can't stand me and has made it clear that extends to our children 🤷‍♀️ she won't even let them call her aunt. At big family gatherings now they don't realise she's close family and think she's a distant cousin.

MylipstickiscalledHugMe · 08/01/2026 13:19

In your case OP, from your updates, she sounds like a bloody nasty woman and you'd be best off keeping her at a distance as much as possible.

Coming from a family with some unkind (to say the least) members, part of my recovery was to actually work out what the word love means to me. I defined it as: always caring about that person's best interests. So, if you love someone you don't hurt them, you support their wellbeing, you don't insult them etc etc.

It's handy to have a clear definition. Families make our perception foggy and we can lose perspective.

Feelfreee · 08/01/2026 13:07

Reddlo · 07/01/2026 13:37

Yes, absolutely this.

As a parent, I would not facilitate a relationship between my kids and a grandparent who was openly hostile towards me.

I agree. We have gone no contact with MIL because of how nasty she’s been to me. Several of her family members are appalled with MIL’s behaviour.

muddyford · 08/01/2026 13:02

I don't get on with DSD but her daughter and I have a wonderful relationship. She is absolutely pure gold.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 08/01/2026 13:00

Weirdly my MIL is very nice to me and to my husband and our son, but we think she's on "best behaviour" since my son arrived. The backstory is that she completely froze out her own MIL (I was at her MIL's funeral and her behaviour to my grieving FIL was awful to see). She has always wanted all family events to revolve around her own family, no exceptions.

But it feels like she knows this wouldn't wash with us. She lives locally, so sees us regularly, but she doesn't overstep when it comes to separate time with my family. She still is quite pushy about her extended family sometimes (wanting me and my son to spend Mother's Day with her cousins, for example), but she doesn't fight it.

Bleachedjeans · 08/01/2026 12:31

Of course she can.

Autumn38 · 08/01/2026 12:27

Of course it is. My maternal granny couldn’t stand my dad. Adored the bones of me and my brother

tweetysylvester · 08/01/2026 07:41

I was a child in a situation like that, and no, I never felt loved by my grandmother. It was never addressed, but as an adult I see I've never experienced loving relationships with grandparents (grandparents on the other side passed away before I was born).

thepariscrimefiles · 08/01/2026 07:11

Cookiecrumblepie · 07/01/2026 13:47

There is racism underpinning some of the hatred from MIL, along with just her generally competitive and domineering personality. I suspect she will hate the ethnic part of her grandchildren, so for example their ethnic names and them learning a different language, but she might like them when they do things she wants them to do.

It makes me wonder whether she would actually like them for who they are, or whether she just likes grandchildren in the way she wants them to be.

I wouldn't want my children to have a relationship with a racist, even though she is their grandmother.

If she hates the ethnic part of her grandchildren, which is part of their DNA and not something that they can control, such as their behaviour, she doesn't deserve to have contact with them.

wonderstuff · 07/01/2026 17:47

I’m white British, so it’s not the same, but my paternal grandmother did not like my mum, largely because she was English and not Welsh (although I’m not sure she’d think anyone would have been good enough for my father) but I had a really good relationship with her. I was upset when she upset my mum, but we did get on and she loved me and my brother. She saw us as Welsh bizarrely, we all lived in England.

My MIL was very unpleasant, she did not like me, I’m not sure she’d was too keen on my husband tbh, but she loved the kids while they were tiny. She lost interest as they got older really, same with all her grandchildren.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/01/2026 17:42

It is of course possible, blood is thicker than water.
I don’t know how MIL would build a bond with the children assuming DIL wouldn’t want to visit her.
It would not be a healthy relationship especially if she was badmouthing DIL around the children.

CheeseWisely · 07/01/2026 17:37

Oh gosh it’s certainly possible! MIL thinks the sun shines out of DS. I’m sort of treated like someone her Son vaguely knows. Polite but slightly awkward small talk, a social media comment on my birthday, that kind of thing.

sittingonabeach · 07/01/2026 17:35

When we were going through a rough patch with MIL when DC was born, she was adamant that they looked like DH, although they were an absolute mini me and everyone else said so. Whilst she was criticising me as a parent and telling all her friends how awful I was, she did have limited access to DC (we lived hundreds of miles away so visits involved staying with us or her). I was of the opinion if she was bad mouthing me as a mum she wasn't showing herself as a good grandmother.

Once through the bad patch all was fine, and we have good relationships all round, but if her attitude had continued we would have gone NC including access to DC

PopcornKitten · 07/01/2026 17:27

Snorlaxo · 07/01/2026 13:37

The MIL will see the kids as her child’s children and ignore the DIL’s genetic influence.

this is my experience. I think my in laws viewed me as an incubator. They want my DH and (when they can be arsed, my DC) can act like I I don’t exist.

ohyesido · 07/01/2026 16:46

I’m not fond of my ex DIL on account of her wicked actions towards my DS, but I love my GS more than I love life itself

Boomer55 · 07/01/2026 16:45

Cookiecrumblepie · 07/01/2026 13:30

AIBU to think this is not possible? So if MIL has always been nasty and hateful to DIL, she can’t genuinely love the DILs children and have a great relationship with them? Or is it possible for a MIL to separate the two?

Yes, they can.

Sunshineandoranges · 07/01/2026 16:42

Coffeeishot · 07/01/2026 13:40

My late Mil was a conplicated woman but unconditionally loved her grandchildren she didn't hate her DiLs but she struggled to be close to us,but she was a fantastic grandmother.

This is what i would say. A relationship with gc is not so complicated.

IsabellaGoodthing · 07/01/2026 16:40

Yes it is quite possible.

HeadyLamarr · 07/01/2026 15:41

Of course they can! My grandmother was awful to my mum but worshipped her son, my dad, and similarly worshipped me because I was his baby.

My mum didn't get on with my brother's first wife but his children were the apple of my mum's eye. She would do absolutely anything for them.

Glowingup · 07/01/2026 15:35

Totally possible. My DH has kids from a previous marriage. His ex wife is the shittest mum you could imagine and a malignant narcissist but my MIL loves the grandkids 100%. My gran also always loved me too despite my dad being a total scumbag. Children are not their parents.

5128gap · 07/01/2026 15:24

Of course she can. Because they're her sons children. Her DiL will just be his unfortunate choice of woman to carry them.

TheNightingalesStarling · 07/01/2026 15:23

I love my niece and nephew despite throughly disliking my BIL and his wife.

The "motto" in the family is... the children are innocent of the parents crimes.

(We have good reason to dislike BILs behaviour. Even his parents are angry about what happened. But it isn't the children's fault.)

However in your case... I wouldn't facilitate a relationship with anyone who was racist towards me (and presumably them?)

Coffeeishot · 07/01/2026 15:21

Cookiecrumblepie · 07/01/2026 14:47

He has distanced himself but believes confrontation won’t help as MIL is never wrong and will never change. He just works around her.

That is probably all you can do and judge how she is with the children .

Brightlittlecanary · 07/01/2026 15:20

What’s missing here is how the dil feels about rhe mil. If the feeling is mutual it will make it hard for the kids, and all adults need to try to set aside their differences for the children’s sake, if they can manage that and behave appropriately