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AIBU to think "Wellness gurus" are mostly spouting bollocks?

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WellnessWally · 07/01/2026 08:46

I was referred to Nuffield Health for their joint pain programme and had my "Health MOT" with the lady I had assumed was a physio (she runs the twice-weekly exercise class). Retrospectively, I think she was more a salesperson, as I had to hear all about their ongoing fees, children's membership etc. but that's perhaps another issue.

During the health MOT, I'd had to disclose other medical conditions - for me, mainly migraines. She asked me how much liquid I drank a day, and I said about 5 cups of tea. She acted as though I said I regularly shot heroin into my eyeballs. She told me that tea was no good and caffeine was dehydrating, and I wasn't getting ANY water at all. I know a little bit about this, so I said that actually yes, if you have pure caffeine it's dehydrating, but the amount of water in tea more than makes up for that. (Many studies have shown this.) She was insistent that I needed water or would become very ill. I said that I'd managed to survive so far - and it had probably been about two weeks since I had an actual glass of water.

Then she really pissed me off by telling me that's why I get migraines. I said to her that they were hormonal, I can pin the day of the month I'm going to get them and they are (hard-won) well-managed with medication. My daughter and my dad also get them, so there's a strong genetic link and it has nothing to do with caffeine. She disagreed.

I'm just so sick of people with no GCSEs in science spouting quasi-medical bollocks in what was basically a medical setting (I was referred by my GP). I'm not looking forward to seeing this woman twice a week for the next twelve weeks - though open to her being a better exercise leader - perhaps that's her strength.

But Wellness people - please, please stop spouting bollocks about clean eating and protein and caffeine and ultra-processed foods, unless you have the science to back it up (and I don't mean "watched a video on TikTok").

Rant over.

OP posts:
JanBlues2026 · 07/01/2026 12:14

Menopausio · 07/01/2026 10:28

Bollocks.
There are many different types of migraines and many different triggers.
Mine are triggered by deviating from my sleep routine ( and yes, Ive had them for 40 years, started as a child and was under a nurologist ). I NEED caffine once the aura starts or I get a 3 day extravaganza of pain, delirium and projectile vomiting.
My brother's triggers are citrus and dark chocolate.
My mum is light sensitive.
I agree with you @WellnessWally .

Same, I rarely have caffeine but it helps me when I feel a migraine coming on

Highlighta · 07/01/2026 12:07

Are you on TikTok OP?

If so, go and have a look at Dr Mike's page. He is a medical doctor and calls out a whole bunch of these wellness claims, giving an medical opinion.

You can just see the frustration oozing out of him at all the false information being handed out by gurus.

Noshadelamp · 07/01/2026 12:05

I know what you mean. I have been diagnosed with refractory migraine which is when all the usual and some unusual treatments don't work.
I'm seeing a private neurologist who specialises in hard to treat migraines.

I'm so far from "caffeine and dehydration" as the triggers but I still get people trying to diagnose and advise me unsolicited.

I don't think all wellness people are spouting bollocks and I do see the value in a lot of their treatments for general wellness, not for complex health conditions.

Appalonia · 07/01/2026 12:00

Some of it can be useful I think. I once had dreadful period pain and a woman gave me a magnet to put on my tummy. The pain went away very quickly. No idea how it worked, but it definitely did!

CraftyBalonz · 07/01/2026 11:58

ObelixtheGaul · 07/01/2026 11:32

Hate to tell you this, but we've been 'rejecting simple water with horror' for centuries, mostly because it's rarely been the case that everyone has access to pure, naturally filtered, uncontaminated or untreated water.

In Victorian times, people drank beer because the water wasn't fit to drink on its own. Today, the stuff that comes out of the tap for many of us won't make us ill, but in order for it not to make us ill, it has been treated with stuff that affects the taste. So many of us carry on the ancient practice of adding to it to make it palatable. It's really not new at all.

In fact, what actually makes us 'spoiled' is the very fact that any of us can talk about drinking 'simple water' without having to, at the very least, boil it first.

Most of us don't have access to naturally filtered, pure water sources. I loved somewhere with natural springs once, and the water was like nectar, but it was tested regularly and wasn't always fit for consumption.

Water isn't simple. It's easily contaminated and has a different 'taste' dependent on the chemicals/minerals it has been exposed to. Our drinking water has been through several treatments and miles of pipe. Nothing simple about it. Even rain water isn't 'simple'.

but that wasn't my point at all. It's not about safety at all, I am talking about fussy.

"Water refusers" are a modern and rich society luxury from people so spoilt they prefer sugar or processed drink, the same way people prefer to eat junk food and look in horror at healthy food.

In fact, what actually makes us 'spoiled' is the very fact that any of us can talk about drinking 'simple water' without having to, at the very least, boil it first.
and none of the water is unpalatable, that's the point.

surreygirly · 07/01/2026 11:46

It is all bollocks that only mugs fall for

Claudiebus · 07/01/2026 11:38

Don’t get me started on cancer stuff that pops up on Facebook the anount of unqualified people giving out rubbish and even dangerous advice. There’s a reason oncologists study for years …

Claudiebus · 07/01/2026 11:35

TaraLotus · 07/01/2026 09:15

Sorry but there are strong scientific links between caffeine and migraine. Why not Stop the caffeine, drink plain water for afew months and see what happens.... would also recommend daily magnesium and omega 3s to help reduce migraine - my wonderful wellbeing herbalist ( also qualified PHD scientist) recommended these and its been life changing.

The physio was just trying to help.

Maybe yoga meditation would help reduce your rantings and lack of patience and bad language?

Love and light ✨️

Edited

Sorry but when I start feeling a headache coming on a coffee often helps stop it

YetAnotherWannabeWriter · 07/01/2026 11:33

WellnessWally · 07/01/2026 11:16

It might be required to take - but it doesn’t mean someone has passed it, does it? Plenty of my friends didn’t, but have gone on to have objectively much more successful careers than me (thankfully not as medics).

I don’t give a shit if you’ve passed GCSE Biology or not - so long as you’re not using a personal training qualification to give incorrect medical advice.

If you have a problem with this, you should go back to your GP if they referred you and say the advice was inappropriate.
It would be far better than wasting your day here.

I assume this woman is the first person anyone like you (who is referred) sees and she takes a medical history.

If she goes beyond what she's qualified to do, you should take that up with a) your GP and b) the gym.

She won't be employed as a wellness guru so that's rather a silly title to ascribe to her.

ObelixtheGaul · 07/01/2026 11:32

CraftyBalonz · 07/01/2026 10:48

Fair enough

but I do find it astonishing that we live in such a processed and spoilt world that simple water, the most basic life essential can be rejected with horror by so many people

I am honestly wondering when we will start having people demanding a flavoured filter to tolerate oxygen 😂

Hate to tell you this, but we've been 'rejecting simple water with horror' for centuries, mostly because it's rarely been the case that everyone has access to pure, naturally filtered, uncontaminated or untreated water.

In Victorian times, people drank beer because the water wasn't fit to drink on its own. Today, the stuff that comes out of the tap for many of us won't make us ill, but in order for it not to make us ill, it has been treated with stuff that affects the taste. So many of us carry on the ancient practice of adding to it to make it palatable. It's really not new at all.

In fact, what actually makes us 'spoiled' is the very fact that any of us can talk about drinking 'simple water' without having to, at the very least, boil it first.

Most of us don't have access to naturally filtered, pure water sources. I loved somewhere with natural springs once, and the water was like nectar, but it was tested regularly and wasn't always fit for consumption.

Water isn't simple. It's easily contaminated and has a different 'taste' dependent on the chemicals/minerals it has been exposed to. Our drinking water has been through several treatments and miles of pipe. Nothing simple about it. Even rain water isn't 'simple'.

YetAnotherWannabeWriter · 07/01/2026 11:31

AudHvamm · 07/01/2026 11:12

Google suggests it's been a required subject since the introduction of the National Curriculum in 1988. So most under 50s would have a science GCSE.

Clearly stuck on this but I thought was a shitty comment from the OP.

This is all rather silly.
English maths and science are compulsory parts of the national curriculum in the UK.

This doesn't mean everyone passes a GCSE in any of them- in fact a large percentage of students don't pass English or Maths!

Aluna · 07/01/2026 11:19

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 07/01/2026 11:05

The underlying truth of this is that we live in an age when a lot of medicine is very sophisticated and that the dimmer sort of person is incapable of accepting that the expertise is out of their reach.

Some diagnosis is by remarkable machines, scans and tests; treatments for conditions are frequently drugs created by incredibly detailed and complex research.

But some people are deep-down frightened of a part of life they can’t understand and in which they must place their trust in others. So they invent these absurd ‘health’ regimes to try to feel more in control (and more ‘in the know’ and therefore self-important). Add in a debased religious impulse - woo is just ritual - and you get pointless water drinking and bollocks about detoxing, ‘unhealthy’ food and other such nonsense.

For all this sophistication, tests and scans etc, migraines have no cure… medication can control the symptoms but does not get rid of them entirely.

WellnessWally · 07/01/2026 11:16

AudHvamm · 07/01/2026 11:12

Google suggests it's been a required subject since the introduction of the National Curriculum in 1988. So most under 50s would have a science GCSE.

Clearly stuck on this but I thought was a shitty comment from the OP.

It might be required to take - but it doesn’t mean someone has passed it, does it? Plenty of my friends didn’t, but have gone on to have objectively much more successful careers than me (thankfully not as medics).

I don’t give a shit if you’ve passed GCSE Biology or not - so long as you’re not using a personal training qualification to give incorrect medical advice.

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AudHvamm · 07/01/2026 11:12

Sleepasaurus · 07/01/2026 10:36

Lots of us are so old that it wasn’t required.

Google suggests it's been a required subject since the introduction of the National Curriculum in 1988. So most under 50s would have a science GCSE.

Clearly stuck on this but I thought was a shitty comment from the OP.

TallulahBetty · 07/01/2026 11:09

Of course we could all/mostly do with drinking more water, as a race.

However this insistence that caffeine = bad, carbs = bad, etc, as blanket statements, is factually and scientifically wrong.

As for needing 'detoxes', I refer you to my previous post. Everyone already has a built-in, free, highly efficient facility for this - a LIVER.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 07/01/2026 11:05

The underlying truth of this is that we live in an age when a lot of medicine is very sophisticated and that the dimmer sort of person is incapable of accepting that the expertise is out of their reach.

Some diagnosis is by remarkable machines, scans and tests; treatments for conditions are frequently drugs created by incredibly detailed and complex research.

But some people are deep-down frightened of a part of life they can’t understand and in which they must place their trust in others. So they invent these absurd ‘health’ regimes to try to feel more in control (and more ‘in the know’ and therefore self-important). Add in a debased religious impulse - woo is just ritual - and you get pointless water drinking and bollocks about detoxing, ‘unhealthy’ food and other such nonsense.

WellnessWally · 07/01/2026 11:05

Fizbosshoes · 07/01/2026 11:01

Im interested in this, DS (now 16) started getting migraines a year or 2 ago, but weve yet to idrntify a trigger. he only drinks milk or water - and a carton of fruit juice at lunch time - but probably not enough liquid throughout the day. Hes never had tea, coffee or caffeinated drinks.

Everyone is so different and I wouldn’t dream of giving advice. My daughter has had some luck with eating protein every day at 3pm (her headaches always start around 4) so we’ve linked it to blood sugar. Mine are more hormonal (and the smell of dark chocolate can trigger me!).

The Migraine Centre said it’s often a combination of things - eg a poor night’s sleep wouldn’t necessarily cause a migraine, but it’s like filling a bucket of triggers - for example, bad sleep, a trigger food, hormones - and when the bucket tips it’s migraine time. This also makes it hard to isolate causes.

Their website is excellent and I would recommend it.

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Zov · 07/01/2026 11:02

100% hard agree!

Fizbosshoes · 07/01/2026 11:01

Im interested in this, DS (now 16) started getting migraines a year or 2 ago, but weve yet to idrntify a trigger. he only drinks milk or water - and a carton of fruit juice at lunch time - but probably not enough liquid throughout the day. Hes never had tea, coffee or caffeinated drinks.

AudHvamm · 07/01/2026 10:57

YetAnotherWannabeWriter · 07/01/2026 10:39

Required for what?

As in you were required to take it. But I think that's evident from my post. So what is your question?

IwannaspendchristmasontheM5 · 07/01/2026 10:55

Stilish · 07/01/2026 10:43

Your stupid passive aggressive hearts and ‘love and light’ for one.

Scroll past it, it's nothing that matters.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 07/01/2026 10:55

TaraLotus · 07/01/2026 09:15

Sorry but there are strong scientific links between caffeine and migraine. Why not Stop the caffeine, drink plain water for afew months and see what happens.... would also recommend daily magnesium and omega 3s to help reduce migraine - my wonderful wellbeing herbalist ( also qualified PHD scientist) recommended these and its been life changing.

The physio was just trying to help.

Maybe yoga meditation would help reduce your rantings and lack of patience and bad language?

Love and light ✨️

Edited

😂
So funny.
Brilliant satire.

I assume you were joking right???

TonTonMacoute · 07/01/2026 10:55

The human body needs 2 litres of water a day, most of this comes from your food. Recent research has shown that it's good to 'eat' as much of your water intake as you can, through fruits and veg.
What you need to drink on top of that is quite small, and will vary depending on time of year and activity levels, and tea and coffee both count. If you fast you need to drink more fluids on fast days. You can tell whether or not you are properly hydrated by the colour and frequency of your urine. Drinking more water than you need isn't normally going to harm you, although there have been a few cases where people have taken it to extremes and done themselves some damage

YANBU OP, it's depressing that someone in a official advisory role in apparently unaware of this and was so insistent that you drink water almost immediately.

CraftyBalonz · 07/01/2026 10:54

WellnessWally · 07/01/2026 10:44

I was trying not to mention my degree in Biochemistry, because I didn’t want to sound like a snob.

When I say “well read” I mean (freely available) scientific studies, not a fluff piece in the Daily Mail, or an Insta story.

What would have been ideal (remember I was there for joint pain, not migraines) would be to weigh, measure, blood test, blood pressure (all of this done) and offer NO advice on lifestyle as I am not overweight, have a normal blood sugar and blood pressure and did not require her input into a well-managed, entirely separate medical issue.

having relevant qualification is not "being a snob", don't be ridiculous. It's just a factual description.

A practicing neurologist would also have more relevant points and experience in the discussion about migraines than a plumber - nothing to do with snobbiness. (I am neither!)

IwannaspendchristmasontheM5 · 07/01/2026 10:51

Garroty · 07/01/2026 08:55

YANBU. Any time I see anyone using the words 'detoxing', 'low toxin', 'clean eating', 'additives', 'chemicals' or 'hormone balancing' with regard to food I know they're a charlatan.

I just🙄and think they're talking a load of bollocks.

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