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Was I the problem in this group?

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pxseyocto · 07/01/2026 04:43

I have a friend at university who I’m pretty close with, probably my closest uni friend.

She recently got into archery society, found a friend group and invited me to go rock climbing with them in November. I was pretty excited since I thought it’d be good to make some friends. Once I met them there were two guys and three girls including my good friend. I shook hands with the guys and said hello to everyone, but it was initially sort of awkward since we’d thought I’d be able to get them into their first session for free (as I’d signed up there the year before and the friend mentioned something like if an existing member brings along friends they get to go free). However that didn’t work and we all had to pay individually for a session. So it was off to a bad start but I moved past and got to climbing. I didn’t really talk to the girls as I was pretty shy, we just waited for the guys to change and then we all went to climb.

I noticed from then on, that the group was mostly talking among themselves. We all had goes at climbing the same wall and when it was my turn they did give me tips and answer my questions, but apart from small talk and a few sentences they didn’t talk to me much. I could tell they were all comfortable with each other and I was kind of the outlier there, and I thought that was normal since obviously I’d just met them. I mainly kind of followed them around and had goes at climbing or pointing out which walls to do, but was mostly talking to the friend I knew already.
At one point we all got to climb one wall and I was kind of struggling at the end, when they helped me out and one of the guys pulled me up to get to the top with them. It was good and we had a sort of jokey conversation on the way down the ladder as to who should go before who.

An hour or so of climbing and one girl had to leave. I followed shortly after since I was meeting with another friend. When I was saying goodbye we got into a small conversation with the friend and the two guys. They said they were doing a boxing/mma session the next day and if I wanted to come, and I was kind of shy since it would be only me and the two guys, but I said I could and that I’ll see how things go tomorrow. I shook hands with the guys and said goodbye to them and the friend also. Not a great start but it wasn’t too bad as it was the first time meeting.

The next day I think I completely forgot about the boxing/MMA event, but I didn’t get the guys’ numbers or anything and the friend didn’t even follow up about it so I didn’t end up going, not that big of a deal.
I didn’t really expect to see them after that but I didn’t have any harsh feelings towards them, just that they were mostly talking among themselves.

A week or so later, I was eating by myself on a bench outside on campus when I saw the friend with the same group walking by. The friend didn’t see me, but the others pointed out “hey isn’t that your friend” to her, after which she came back and spoke to me. She asked what I was doing alone and I said I was just eating at my regular spot to chill by myself after lessons.

I asked where they were going and she said to an arcade, so I figured let me try and be social and asked if I could come along. She said sure and we followed right after them as they’d gone quite a bit ahead of us while we were talking. I think that in the moment I was happy they recognised me and stopped to say hi, which I took as a good sign that we broke the ice and they were comfortable with me now, so that’s why I got so confident and wanted to go with them.
As me and the friend caught up to her group though, I could tell the vibe was off again and remembered what happened at climbing before and how they mostly spoke to each other and I was the obvious outlier. I realised it’ll probably be the same now so I’d have to try extra hard to talk first, and regretted getting too confident and asking her to join them.

My guess would turn out correct as on the way there they were again mostly speaking among themselves. One of the guys who was also there the week before seemed kind of upset and wasn’t really talking to anyone either, just following quietly at the back like me. I felt kind of awkward and just kept walking along with them. We got to the train and we kind of split up in the carriage with the other guy and the girls in a large group and me, the friend I knew well and the guy who was upset were standing outside of the group, so I was talking to the friend I knew from before. She then told me to go talk to the rest and why I was just standing by myself. I don’t remember how I responded but it was probably trying to defend myself and saying the other guy wasn’t talking much either.

With him though, I noticed that the girls and other guy realised he was kind of upset and asked him if he was okay trying to find out wha was wrong, to which he kind of shrugged them off. With me though, I was just there standing around or following like a sheep as they were again, keeping and talking amongst themselves. I don’t blame them as they knew the guy well and it probably wasn’t normal for him to not talk much, while they barely knew me and had barely spoken to me before.

So back to the train and the friend telling me to talk more. I think at the end she even asked why I was there if I wasn’t gonna talk, to which I took offense. That kinda killed my mood and I saw her as being kind of blunt, saying I might as well go home at that point. I don’t think I’d ever say that to her or any friend of mine if they were left out in my friend group, rather ask them to talk or be fine with them talking to me to at least not be by themselves.

We got out of the station and the way towards the arcade was pretty much the same, them talking amongst themselves and me following around listening. What she said didn’t help me socialise any more at all, probably made me feel more stressed and I wanted to leave at that point but I felt awkward saying it and had no idea how to get myself out so I just stayed. At one point we stopped as some of them had to use the bathrooms so it was me, the friend and the two guys. I stood around quietly agin as the guys weren’t really saying anything to me, and the friend tried again breaking the ice by reintroducing us to each other and telling us to speak and say something and not make it awkward. One of the guys then said “I tried, just letting you know I’ve tried” and the other who was previously quiet and upset said “just let him smile” or something along the lines of that, because I wasn’t saying anything but smiling and walking with them. I still find that rude and backhanded, I think the first guy was trying to say he tried talking to me to no avail, but he hadn’t said a single word to me that whole journey there and I know for a fact if he spoke to me I would’ve carried on a conversation, so no he hadn’t “tried” at all. It really pissed me off even to this day but I didn’t say anything there and then.
I don’t know if the second guy was trying to defend me or make fun of me by saying to let me just smile.

The others then came back and we resumed walking to the arcade. One of the girls actually started a conversation with me then, asking me what I study. I answered and asked what she did etc, asked about archery and commented on her climbing from the week before. So I can socialise and have a conversation, it’s just I need the other person to either start it or just engage with me in the first place. We spoke until we got to the arcade, then they all started talking about who would pay on the card machine as we needed an arcade card with prepaid points inside it to go on the games and machines.

Anyway, we play a few first games and again it was mostly them competing with each other and talking, with me saying something here and there or being given the turn to play. I then spoke to the friend again, who again told me to walk up to the others and talk to them. I got a bit defensive as I was still bitter about her previous comment about why did I come if I wasn’t gonna talk, so I tried to tell her my point of view - that they weren’t talking to me either and that a conversation goes both ways, not just me trying to start convos to no avail while they mostly talk amongst each other and I’m just there outcasted. I wasn’t really keen to go up to them as it would seem like I’m begging to be inserted into the group, but I was confident to have a conversation if one of them included me like the girl who started talking to me on the way there and I reciprocated on.

After that, a third guy arrived who was also a friend of theirs already, and he was actually much nicer. After I said hi to him and we played some games he would turn to me and start conversations with me, ask me about what I do and try to include me or talk to me. That’s when things got better, I was talking to him but also the others if they were nearby or joining in, and we eventually partnered up with the guy for a game where you race with a partner, and competed against them in other games as well. We kind of broke the ice after that and us guys started talking a bit more as a group with me too. We even shared a group hug towards the end which was kind of wholesome, even said we loved each other. So the third guy coming and talking to me helped me bloom a bit like a butterfly and show that I can be talkative when the others are open to include me or initiate.

That was most of it, we went home after that and even the second guy who previously said to let me just smile was telling me a story about their group chat and just funny small talk in general. We all ended up splitting as we took different ways home, and I said bye to everyone. I later saw one of the girls at the end who happened to be going the same way home as me and we spoke about university and stuff until I got off the train.

That was around 2 months ago now, but I just wanted to ask on here if I was really the issue by not talking a lot or if a lot of you would’ve done the same as me, if maybe the vibes were off and if there’s any truth in what I said about a conversation going both ways, not just me the outsider trying to initiate with the already-friends in the group.
Another friend who I asked said I should talk to them and put myself out there and not be quiet especially as they already knew each other well.

Am I also being unreasonable to get upset at the friend’s comment about how I shouldn’t have come if I wasn’t going to talk? The whole group was mainly talking among themselves and I felt like an outlier just being there unable to insert myself into the convo. They weren’t really acknowledging me either or talking to me. Is it unreasonable to expect anyone to try and talk to me then?
I still find that comment kind of blunt from her.
Also the comments from the two guys before we got to the arcade, one who said he “tried” (when he really didn’t at least from my perspective, he was just talking to the girls he knew already and the second guy, barely acknowledging me), and the second who told her to just let me smile.

Do I need to improve my social skills of approaching people and starting conversations, or is it normal to keep quiet and not be keen to integrate if they mainly keep talking among themselves? Or maybe our vibes were just off and I don’t happen to click with them in general?

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GlassofRosePorfavor · 07/01/2026 07:17

You should concentrate on speaking more and writing less

winter8090 · 07/01/2026 07:16

Your overthinking.

In future make effort to make small talk with everyone. Some you’ll hit it off with, some you won’t. Don’t take it personally.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 07/01/2026 07:10

Massive overthinking. I get the impression you’re looking for invitations to talk. You might be better off finding opportunities to ask questions and allow others to talk. Really listen to their answers, show an interest in them.

Theroadt · 07/01/2026 07:10

OP you are assuming each person in that group is putting thought into their comments - lots of times people just fill airspace with words to keep the flow going. Really you just need to join clubs until you find your tribe - which you will once you find something you like and go regularly to become a “fixture”. And remember the penguins in the kids movie Madagascar - smile &wave, boys! Smile & wave. In other words, don’t overthink, over-interpret, judge. Just swing along as openly positive as you can, with eyes open for your tribe. You sound lovely, you’ll get there!!!

Pineappleice43 · 07/01/2026 07:09

I haven't read it all but the general gist to be honest is you're probably making it awkward by not saying much and silently walking behind them. I'd find that awkward. I appreciate you have some social anxiety but it's good you've put yourself out there to ask to join them. Find some conversation starters to have ready to use and make more effort to proactively chat to them. You can't sit and wait for someone else to talk to you.

Colderthanwarm · 07/01/2026 07:09

There are some really unpleasant people on this thread. If a post is too long for you just jog along to shorter post. OP is already anxious, which makes you feel under threat, so why add to that with pointless unpleasant comments about the post length? None of you have said it to be helpful, you are just being snarky.

OP uni can be a difficult time. These people are probably finding their way in new friendship groups too. Lots of people feel like you in a new group. Thats normal. Most people won’t make an effort to include a new person in a conversation. You do need to try to include yourself. That is hard if you are socially anxious, especially is your anxiety is affecting your processing. I find I freeze more in anxious situations and talk more easily when I feel calm.

Some people find it easier to talk one to one or one to three than in groups like those.

And yes, your friend was rude to make that unhelpful comment and would have made you more, not less, self conscious.

Holdonforsummer · 07/01/2026 07:02

I think you are massive over thinking everything and sound very hard work to be around, sorry.

goingtotown · 07/01/2026 06:59

Blimey that’s a long post 😴

sesquipedalian · 07/01/2026 06:46

OP, from their point of view, you blew off two of the guys over the mma/boxing thing, then you join in their arcade trip, but don’t join in the conversation. It’s not a matter of taking over - you just need to add the odd comment here and there, and be friendly, and (most importantly) be interested in them. They’ve told you what they’re doing by way of study - that gives you an “in” to ask about why/what they're hoping to do eventually. You’re all doing sports - ask about how long/when did you first get into it/what’s your favourite/how often do you go climbing - just small talk. If you’re new, and they already all know each other, it’s up to you to be friendly to them. They’ve picked you up to go to the arcade, so involve yourself. It’s no good saying, ”If he had spoken to me,I would have spoken back.” You can initiate a conversation just as well as he can. You need to be proactive, OP - as it is, you’re coming across as rather hard work, and friendships are not about one person putting in all the spadework. The fact that someone said, “Just let him smile” rather implies that you really hadn’t said much at all. You don’t need an invitation to join in a conversation!

bitterexwife · 07/01/2026 06:44

I got to the bench part and gave up. Bloody hell

AgentBalls · 07/01/2026 06:44

How old are you @pxseyocto if you don’t mind me asking?

Stop overthinking it, and stop over analysing. None of you were a “problem” in the group.

You come across as quite shy and introverted? is that a fair assumption? Which is probably why your friend encouraged you to talk to the others. They probably want you to come out of your shell and get to know other people.

Uni, especially the first year, if you’re young, can be awkward. It takes time to find your people. And unfortunately, if you do want to make friends at uni you need to put yourself out there, talk to people, approach people! Don’t wait for everyone to come to you.

I’ve been there. I was a shy and introverted 18yo in a brand new city with no friends and knew nobody. It was soul destroying trying to make friends but I did it. And Uni was some of the best times of my life.

So just stop overthinking and trying to find a ‘problem’. There wasn’t a problem. You were just hanging out with a group of people you didn’t really know, but seems like you had a good time in the end.

Smittenkitchen · 07/01/2026 06:42

It's so tricky to make friends at university, you're not alone. I think you're probably a natural introvert and highly sensitive so might find such moments tricky. The comment that you found hurtful, it depends a lot on the tone used but you're right, it was never going to make you or anyone relax and participate more. Chalk it up to experience and even though there were moments when you felt a bit awkward and silly, it is good that you pushed yourself to get involved even though you didn't find it easy. They sound fairly cliquey and were probably more concerned with feeling secure with their own position in the group, which is usually why people can be hostile towards newcomers. Best of luck with future social connections. It may just be that you haven't quite found people you click with yet, but you will.

ParmaVioletTea · 07/01/2026 06:36

The problem is that you don’t sound particularly interested in other people. Ask questions and fake interest in the answers. Start conversations. It’s quite self-centred to expect others always to initiate.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 07/01/2026 06:35

Hi

Your feelings are completely normal. New interactions, especially with groups can be awkward and they take a lot of time to develop. YANBU to be upset by the comment from the girl. You were nervous and looking for reassurance. Other people may have given you more warmth. I would’ve done.

Well done on putting yourself in an uncomfortable situation-that’s how we grow. Sounds like you certainly felt the stretch. You had a positive experience overall, with group hugs and fun times at the arcade.

Take care & enjoy uni.xx

Empress13 · 07/01/2026 06:34

I got bored after the first paragraph Jesus wept !

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/01/2026 06:27

It sounds as if you’re still working out who you are. It’s fine to be more or less talkative. It’s fine for people to talk more or less to you at certain points. That doesn’t mean you’ll ultimately be valued less by them.

A lot of how you feel you’re projecting onto others and they can sense it. If you’d just shrugged things off and given the vibe of being fine just hanging but speaking less all will have likely run much smoother. In other words, fake it til you make it kind of thing.

I get where you’re coming from. I’m usually the one speaking less and get a lot of these feelings too. But that is actually about me rather than them even if it feels the other way around. I suggest you look up something called Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria to explain this phenomenon.

It’s not surprising that they’re a bit unsure of you and how you fit into all this. You made a gaffe with the tickets. It happens. But then you aren’t talkative, seem a bit standoffish at times, get invited to things, say yes, don’t finalise meeting information then don’t turn up. They perhaps presumed you’d get the info from your friend for example or maybe didn’t think about the logistics at all.

The secret is people generally have so much going on in their lives that they aren’t paying attention that much to you or thinking about you. I get that’s perhaps difficult to understand. But ultimately you’re not that important to other people because of the stuff going on in their own lives. And that’s not because it’s specifically you. That goes for everyone on the planet. So the easiest thing is to not sweat the small stuff.

And are you a guy because the stuff you’ve posted is about trying to engage with ‘him’? If you’re not. And from what you’ve written about yourself, I don’t think you are, so that comment wasn’t about you.

Edit - to add. You can’t just expect people to always interact with you. It works both ways. Before you meet with people it would perhaps be helpful to rehearse a few topics of conversation you could bring in or question starters. Communication is a skill.

beAsensible1 · 07/01/2026 06:26

Op if you are new to the group you do have to make a bit of effort. You can’t wait for everyone to always talk to you. Making friends is an active endeavour not just passive.

Why are always waiting for someone to have conversation with you? Listen to what they’re talking about and pipe up.

your friend was right you need to make a little more effort if you are going to tag along. But it’s all ended fine, no need to be hung up on a comment from 2 months ago.

move on.

re read things that you write practice concise sentences. It’s a skill that takes time.

rookiemere · 07/01/2026 06:23

Overthebow · 07/01/2026 06:04

Your friend has made a group of friends from a society, and they wanted you to come rock climbing with them as you had a membership and wanted you to get them in for free? I don’t think they really wanted you to be part of their friend group.

Yes sadly I think this nails it, and your friend was embarrassed when free entry didn’t work out.
I would focus on finding different friends- people in the rock climbing group maybe?

PortSalutPlease · 07/01/2026 06:16

Life is way too short to read all that. Who shakes hands at social occasions in this day and age?

Bikergran · 07/01/2026 06:14

Stop overthinking.

Alwaysalert · 07/01/2026 06:04

MiddleChildX · 07/01/2026 05:50

I think it’s okay. Uni is a time for finding yourself
and also realising not everyone is the same.
Are you prone to overthinking? I tend to do that. Social encounters will play on my mind long after the event.
Sometimes more extroverted or
socially confident people can get frustrated thinking introverted or shy can be difficult to interact with. I think as people mature socially and emotionally, they should become more aware that introverted people are often contented just feeling included and are stressed by the idea they should be more extroverted. As an introvert, it always baffled me that people thought I should be more extroverted but nobody tells extroverts to try to be more introverted.
I think accept yourself and be you. You’ll find your tribe. Don’t try to fit someone else’s narrative, gravitate to likeminded people and I’m sure in time you’ll make friends for life.

Good post.

Overthebow · 07/01/2026 06:04

Your friend has made a group of friends from a society, and they wanted you to come rock climbing with them as you had a membership and wanted you to get them in for free? I don’t think they really wanted you to be part of their friend group.

Parsleyandthyme · 07/01/2026 06:04

Maybe the group were pretty new with each other, or some of them were, you are assuming you were the only one feeling awkward but could be the group are still forming and finding their place in with the rest. In that case they are busy concentrating on how they appear to others, how they fit in and who they get to chat to. Probably didn't really notice you much. Maybe go to archery alone and up your game then you'd be more part of the group.

Dgll · 07/01/2026 05:59

It is hard to talk when under pressure and it sounds like this might not be the right group of people for you.

It is a useful life skill to be able to initiate and maintain conversations and something you could develop more if you wanted to. I wouldn't over think it though.

SomewhatAnnoyed · 07/01/2026 05:54

MiddleChildX · 07/01/2026 05:50

I think it’s okay. Uni is a time for finding yourself
and also realising not everyone is the same.
Are you prone to overthinking? I tend to do that. Social encounters will play on my mind long after the event.
Sometimes more extroverted or
socially confident people can get frustrated thinking introverted or shy can be difficult to interact with. I think as people mature socially and emotionally, they should become more aware that introverted people are often contented just feeling included and are stressed by the idea they should be more extroverted. As an introvert, it always baffled me that people thought I should be more extroverted but nobody tells extroverts to try to be more introverted.
I think accept yourself and be you. You’ll find your tribe. Don’t try to fit someone else’s narrative, gravitate to likeminded people and I’m sure in time you’ll make friends for life.

Thoughtful post and excellent advice

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