To dob in family member - benefits

This. It’s absolute shite.

Of course people play the system, but they are usually obvious and eventually the DWP will catch up with them. There is no excuse for ‘dobbing in’ a claimant for not being as obviously disabled as you think they should be. Especially when you know absolutely nothing about their condition beyond what you see on the surface, which is rarely all there is.

we sound so similar. I don't even tell people what my diagnosis as the response is usually 'Isn't that the thing people make up?'.

Absolute bollocks. You’re trying to excuse the most entitled attitude that a person thinks they are better placed to determine whether someone is entitled to benefits than the DWP. In this case better placed than an appeal tribunal who have to consider whether the law has been correctly applied. Whether anything comes of it may be of no concern to the OP, but it’s certainly of concern to the benefit recipient who is probably doing nothing wrong, but whose life will be turned upside down by a random person thinking they are entitled to judge based on what they see on the surface - which is rarely an indication of everything that’s wrong. Of course morals come into it. DWP have already assessed on a lot more facts than OP is in command of.

How do you know that she would not be in the wrong for doing so, do you know her relative as well?

This is a very good question, in these, absolutely true, accounts of people these posters definitely know who are fraudulently claiming PIP for a bad back while being world limbo champion, I am always surprised by how charmingly garrulous these alleged criminals are.
I imagine that, if one were to commit benefit fraud, one would keep quiet about one's illegal activity, not share it with every nosy neighbour or judgemental distant family member you happen to speak to.
If I were a cynical person, I might be inclined to reach the hypothesis that these flagrant fraudsters are figments of the posters' fevered imaginations, conjured up from a thousand lurid Daily Mail disabled-bashing scare-mongering headlines. However, I am a trusting soul so I would never suggest such a thing!

Op, you're getting flamed on here because people refuse to believe that people play the system. But they do, regularly. It's totally up to you if you dob them in but you wouldn't be in the wrong for doing so.

Do you live with them. Do you actually know how able they are on a day to day basis. Not just what you see when you visit.

Right little sourpuss you aren't you.

If someone went to tribunal and won it means they had a fuckton of evidence.
If they can get out and about and have a life then great. I'm glad pip is helping them do that.

Just out of interest, what do you think the life of a disabled person should look like?

Maybe that poster knows less than she thinks she does, about her neighbour, just a thought.

Make an anonymous report that you believe this recipients circumstances have changed and you now suspect there is a possibility they are claiming benefits fraudulently.

There is a scope for reporting suspected benefit fraud. Whether it is true or not and whether anything comes of it is of no concern to you as you say you’ve acted on what you feel is benefit fraud. Whether or not it is or not is irrelevant. Just as there is a mechanism in place to claim benefits there is also a mechanism in place to report suspected benefit fraud. They are independent of each other.

No morals come into it. The facts will be assessed and a decision made.

Lol, 70% of people go to tribunal and win. What makes you think pip assessors are qualified to assess whether someone is disabled? They claimed I'd grown out of something which is physically impossible

Maybe she has magical powers that score worthiness of disability from afar.

What makes you more qualified to assess whether someone is disabled than the medical professionals who are involved in the PIP assessment?

Do you have a medical background and access to the claimant's medical files?

I have all the compassion in the world for people who are genuinely disabled.

I think the problem is that the issue is not really that there are huge numbers of people scamming the benefits system. It’s that the government have decided that there isn’t enough money to support all the disabled people so they are going to move some disabled people out of the disabled category and rebrand them as able. In order to cover the fact that they are basically cutting loose vulnerable disabled people to save money they have decided to allow this (or perhaps promote this) idea that these are just bludgers who need to try harder.

It’s nonsense of course. Unsupported needs lead to more expense down the road not less.

Maybe it's the thought of work that triggers the panic attacks? Just a thought.

'They simply do not have the manpower or budget to be snooping or spying. That's a myth rooted in the wishful thinking of anti benefits[possibly right wing] And here's another reason to laugh at the mythical 0.00000% PIP fraud rate. This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. Oh and of course anyone who objects to benefit fraud absolutely MUST be right wing.

No you should turn a compassionate eye.

So by your logic we should all just turn a blind eye should we?

Pathetic. Are you on the take yourself?

Not that amazing when you consider that the greater part of benefit expenditure is pensions.

I suppose your level of amazement depends on whether you want to live in a society that protects older and disabled people and families from falling into destitution.

benefit expenditure overpaid in FYE 2025 was 3.3% (£9.5bn)
Quote from the Gov website above
What's most amazing isn't 9.5bn fraud but that 9.5bn is only 3%!!!!

Sadly many posters think like the OP. It is more important that they get their second ski holiday than they contribute enough to look after the vulnerable in society properly.

Well, it’s difficult because the government lump official error into the figures.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-2024-to-2025-estimates/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-ending-fye-2025