To dob in family member - benefits

Why are you benefit bashers so lacking in intellectual capacity that you still cannot grasp, despite being told endlessly, that PIP IS NOT AN OUT OF WORK BENEFIT?

How embarrassing.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-2024-to-2025-estimates/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-ending-fye-2025#personal-independence-payment-overpayments-and-underpayments

It's up slightly overpayment due to fraud for PIP is now 0.4% of claims, up from 0% in 2024. Total overpayments due to fraud or error are 1.3% of claims, which makes the assertion that everyone knows someone who is claiming fraudulently utterly nonsensical. Approximately 1 in every 100 claims is overpaid due to fraud or error, and only half of those are due to fraud, so statisically for everyone to know one person claiming fraudulently, we'd all need to know 200 people claiming PIP, which is just nonsense. Most people don't even know 200 people, let alone 200 disabled people.

You really don't know how the system works do you?

I totally agree with you.

Of course I do however not everyone does that when they should.

Please show where the dwp states a non existent fraud rate from PIP. You've made it abundantly clear what you would do in this situation, all i will say is karma waits around every corner.

OP right now

Do you know how friggin hard it is to get PIP? If they’ve been awarded it they’ll need it!

Everlore

Interesting thought!

So you are happy that people claim g to be disabled are taking the funding meant for those who struggle?

The pot grows ever smaller for those in need now fighting to get the funds they need.

Well, they won’t change a thing. Best to just get on with life. Do you need to care what random strangers think?

And that’s what reviews are for. Things do change and unless a claimant has a disabilty or condition that is unlikely to change for the better, they will be subject to reviews every couple of years. There is a legal obligation for claimants to report a change of condition - reviews are built in to make sure that happens.

I hope you are not accusing me of sarcasm, didn't I say I believe implicitly in all the, extremely convincing, accounts shared on threads like this?
I merely expressed my surprise that people engaged in fraud would be so willing, even keen, to share details of their crimes with every nosy parker they meet.
However, to address your last point, I'd rather live in a shiny bubble than a state of perpetual paranoia as a curtain-twitching busy-body spying on my neighbours and stewing in impotent rage that the lazy scrounger at number eleven gets a 'free car' when it doesn't look like there is anything wrong with him.
*I was being hyperbolic about the 'free car', I know they are not free, but not sure I can be bothered rehashing that yet again for ignorant posters who failed to get it the first few hundred times it was explained to them on threads like these!

I’ll leave life to professionals and not random keyboard warriors. 🙄

No. There are just legions of pretend disabled people roaming around doing their best Quasimodo routine, bent over, clutching their backs, and shouting for Esmerelda.

Or, perhaps, ., they are also just in the minds of DM readers. 😂😂😂

After you dear,after you.

Another day, another depressingly familiar disabled-bashing thread which, as always, the MN authorities will do absolutely nothing to moderate.
All the usual greatest hits of ableism have appeared repeatedly on this tedious post, replete with posters opining at length about a subject on which they are so obviously entirely ignorant.
It is reading ill-informed posts from people who think that they are more qualified to make judgements on how disabled someone is than the professionals whose actual job it is to do so and who seem to believe that one can judge the level of someone's disability just by looking at them, that sort of makes me glad to have been born with a severe physical disability which is immediately obvious on meeting me. At least nobody questions my disabled status. Still have to deal with lots of the other tiresome discrimination, both indirect and direct, which is all too familiar to most disabled people.

Of course you're right,no benefit fraudsters exist anywhere apart from in the minds of Daily Mail readers. What a shiny little bubble you must live in.

Oh get over yourself. Your thoughts have no bearing on it all. The only views that count are those of decision makers and tribunals. 🙄

Or maybe she has had over the years very close contact with people who were on the take and pretty damned shameless about it.

Haven’t a clue, but here you are contemplating the wisdom of “dobbing in” your own relative’s only source of income.
Good grief OP have a word with yourself!

The claimant's case has already been assessed and a decision made. They are not going to listen to some spiteful, envious little weasel!

Nope. It’s not drama. Unfortunately it’s the kind of ableist shit disabled people face every day. I was a disability outreach worker. If I had a pound for everyone who was reassessed because some jealous bastard who had been turned down for the same benefit themselves and had reported them as a result, I’d be rich.

The OP doesn't believe their relative's circumstances have changed. They don't believe the person should have been awarded PIP in the first place. They think that a panel consisting of a legally qualified and experienced judge, a health professional and a disability expert knows less than they do.

I agree that this is an issue we should all be annoyed about. That 70% of cases are overturned is a massive waste of time and money on both sides, and things need to change. PIP assessors are being pushed into being too harsh and not applying the law correctly, which is proving costly for the taxpayer and the claimants.

The constant reassessments should change too, especially in cases where the condition is clearly lifelong and/or likely to worsen over time. Unless we believe that amputees might suddenly grow a new limb, assessing them every four years is a waste of taxpayers' money and the claimants' time and dignity.

I still believe a PIP assessor knows more about someone's health than some random neighbour, and the tribunal infinitely more than both, so if someone has been awarded PIP, there is a 99.99999% chance they are wholly entitled to it. Unless you are medically involved with them, it's best to keep your nose out and your opinions to yourself.