To dob in family member - benefits

Like @BunnyLake I have a chronic illness that over the past 2 years along with the pressures of raising a disabled child has seen me reduce my working hours from being a full time professional (solicitor) to part time to less than part time to engaging in minimum wage temp work to now not working at all. It's an illness that is supposedly 'not progressive' but I sure as shit know it is and others in my support group know it is too. Just that science has not yet caught up with that it seems. I am eligible for PIP but have not applied because applying foir DLA for DS was such a traumatic experience and so far we are manging to live off DH's income. People might see me doing the school run. going out for dinner and walking to the shops and back. What they don't see is the 10 days I spent in bed over Christmas where I needed help from DH to get from bed to sofa so i could watch my kids open their Christmas presents. They did not see my children putting up the Christmas tree and taking photos of it on their phones to bring to me in bed.

You feel like a bad person because you are displaying some undesirable character traits. You are interfering in someone else's life, you are arrogantly assuming you know more about benefits than you do, you are resentful of something that makes a disabled person's life better and want that removed from them, and your are being disingenuous in dressing this up as 'morality'. Deep down, you know this isn't the behaviour of a 'good' person, so your conscience is troubled.
You try to make this seem better by framing the dilemma as not wanting them to lose out, another falsehood, as really you absolutely do want them to lose this money, and would be highly satisfied if it was taken from them.
Whether you report or not, at least own your motives, because self awareness is an important step in being a good person.

Not another jealous nosey f#cker.

It’s none of your business. PIP don’t just hand out money and cars, she would have needed to show proof of her disabilities. Mobility cars are not just for those that can’t walk, my dd has a mobility car, she’s severely autistic with mild mobility issues. She scored high on the PIP forms for ‘getting around’, not because she can’t walk but because she can’t travel alone, can’t plan journeys and has a lack of safety awareness. The mobility part of PIP pays for the car (that’s not money in her pocket), she’s not given a car for free.

My daughter can walk quite far with support (a person), the car is used to take her places, appointments and for her carers to use to take her out. If someone wants to report us for benefit fraud then I am sure they would be laughed at for wasting time and resources.

Keep your nose out and be thankful that you are not disabled.

Yes that is why I mentioned psychological distress and the ability to make and plan a journey in my original post.

posts like this are heartbreaking. The world has become so very harsh. These people will never understand what it is like to have a disability.

The very same people who would "dob" on a family member will probably fawn over the royal family, the biggest benefits cheats in history.

Can you not get it for mental health conditions as well though? PTSD means you may need to leave a place quickly etc

We have a campaign at MD UK to change the requirements with PIP for progressive neurological conditions.

It’s none of your business and you shouldn’t assume just because they have a life they aren’t in pain everyday.

This thread is one of those funny ones. Omg op you are so terrible never report anyone what a cow and so on.

On general benefits threads when someone says they know or suspect someone. Well I hope you’ve reported them it’s our duty to report!!!!

😂

If they can genuinely walk that far regularly and not as a once every so often they manage and then recover/suffer for days, they shouldn’t be getting higher mobility.

PIP has nothing to do with being "workshy" as it's not an out of work benefit. We need to look at barriers to employment for disabled people and consider that many of us are only able to work part time and still need financial support. We don't need to condemn people based on lack of knowledge and accurate information. In fact on this thread there's no justification for you to call people workshy when it's been pointed out time and again that PIP is not related to employment status.

You haven’t evidences cheating. They’d likely get it again if reassessed and you would feel stupid.

The system is unaffordable and will come crashing down, but that’s not relevant to your relative’s application.

Snitches get stitches

When my son was researching universities I went with him to the campuses. Walked around them, walked around the towns etc all as support for my son. I was in excruciating pain doing this but I powered through for him. If I had been on pip and you saw me doing these campus and town walkabouts would you have reported me?

I'm going to go against the majority and say yes report. Having fought long and hard to get PIP - particularly the mobility element, it's gauling to hear someone has that who can reliably walk long distances. I have to use a wheelchair to go any distance if I can get out of the house!
We have a certain duty to report fraud if we have enough information to do so. If we're wrong, then no harm done, but if we're not, we're protecting the benefit for those who genuinely need it.......
This is our money that is going to pay for this, and everyone who fraudetly claims spoils it for those who genuinely need it.

I work with someone who claims PIP, he travels into central london everyday and works in a busy office in a technical role, he lives alone and owns a flat just outside london. He's independent and doesn't have carers or additional support. Somehow he claims PIP for autism. No idea how as he is perfectly capable of leading a normal life, working ft in a well paid job. Am I ringing the PIP people to shop him? Well no, he has been assessed and whoever did the assessment thought he met the criteria so he can claim it. Maybe there's something not obvious that he doesn't share, either way he has been assessed and met their criteria.

What would you get out of shopping someone exactly? You can just ignore and trust that whoever assessed them decided they met the criteria. There's no moral dilemma, ignore and get on with your day.

I have read (I’m pretty sure on MN), that it is not unheard of that DWP can monitor people to see how much activity they are doing. They would see me walking to the shops, carrying a bag of shopping, putting the bins out, getting on a train unassisted etc. What they won’t see or feel is how much pain I am in doing those things, or the recuperation it takes after I’ve done those things. So I have chosen to just suffer but be free to go about my day without worrying about authorities or back stabbers.

PIP eligibility isn't limited to life long conditions.

I didn't even know about DLA until I received it. It was someone at Cahms who helped me fill out a form asking for SEN school that apparantly took it upon herself to apply for me. I can't work due to DC having meetings and being off school for mh reasons. Since my dh earns well I didn't ask if there was any help to get.

Your mind will be blown when you find out how many billions are paid to private landlords each year via housing related benefits!

This is how I feel. I’m in such a bad way now though. (Muscular dystrophy)

Worth thinking about why claims might increase - extensive NHS waiting lists, the legacy of covid and the general cost of living struggle/housing crisis that causes or exacerbates health conditions.
Unequal societies like ours always see poorer health outcomes.

Thanks. I did try and get something a while back but was denied (my GP report was very basic as GP didn't refer me for any scans or further investigations, just prescribed temporary meds). It was gutting at the time as I find working very painful but decided against appealing as I was worrying, suppose someone (like staff at DWP checking up on me) and saw me walking or carrying shopping. I decided I’d rather be in pain but a free agent because I fear people like the OP, I don’t think I could go out or do a bit of gardening freely again. I am seeing a physiotherapist soon who I hope can help.

People like you make me nervous about going out with aids and applying for pip which would greatly help me with Muscular dystrophy. You don’t know what you don’t know and it’s scary how quickly you jump to report report.

No need to tell anyone you are receiving PIP, why would you? If you are disabled and it's affecting your quality of life then please apply. The OP and other posters as myself have nothing against disabled people receiving PIP. It's fraudelent behaviour that we condone.