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To not understand how people have an evening.

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Littlebittiredoflife · 06/01/2026 22:29

My children are 8 and 12 and we've not had an evening for basically that long. 8 year old is in bed by half 8 and older one up later but sorts themselves out. We're always washing up, prepping lunches, putting washing on, unloading dishwasher, until at least 10pm at night. I mean at least one of us is (obviously not me tonight as I'm writing this). I saw someone who said they watch TV together then one of them goes and reads and the other plays video games- are they getting in bed at midnight? Obviously when they were younger and needed more help with sleep and eating I accepted we wouldn't have much time to ourselves, either together or apart but we still don't seem to be getting any.

Also I'm aware we do have an evening but it seems to be spent on routine and never pleasure!

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AllIdoistidyup · 08/01/2026 13:51

Littlebittiredoflife · 07/01/2026 21:44

Tonight we got in at 6:15pm, oven on to warm up. The oven was warm by 6:30pm, dinner took just over half our to cook, we unpacked bags, unloaded dishwasher and draining board, loaded it with the days plates- oldest showered. Sat down to eat at 7:15pm finished by 7:45pm. One parent supervised youngest with bedtime, he was ready by 8:15pm, other parent finished loading dishwasher and put wash on. Sat down by 8:20pm to watch traitors but washing up wasn't done so one parent did that. Definitely had more of evening but no hoovering done (which I do once a week because I stupidly bought an unwieldy hoover two years ago that is a bit of a faff getting in and out the cupboard so I'd rather stick to once a week faff than every day) and dinner was pretty much a ready meal/beige frozen thing.

Will update how tomorrow goes!

washing up wasn't done so one parent did that

How long did that take?

Yourethebeerthief · 08/01/2026 13:26

I don’t get the hardship of laundry but admit there are only 3 of us. I put one load on every 2 days. The machine does it for you. A couple of things that can’t be tumble dried are hung on a clothes horse, the rest is tumble dried. Again, the machine doesn’t for you. Laundry is the quickest of all household chores.

Now ironing on the other hand… That can piss off. I don’t buy clothes that need ironed.

cheeseonsofa · 08/01/2026 13:18

Eufy are often reduced on Amazon.
Absolutely worth every penny.

I agree with @Ludinous
Why wash everyday if the clothes arent needed?
Im convinced its a vicious cycle where more and more washing is created to fulfill the must wash daily need.

Kitchenbattle · 08/01/2026 13:12

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 08/01/2026 13:05

I've just googled this, £700 😱😱 I really want one now though

They are worth every penny 🙌🙌 one less job to do! I’m all for an easy life!

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 08/01/2026 13:05

Hello12345678910 · 07/01/2026 23:01

I have a eufy omni e28 (worth the cash - its changed my existence, no more hoovering or mopping and I have 2 dogs and 2 children under 4). I have oak stairs which i sweep once a week and a smaller robotic hoover upstairs. The dishwasher and washing machine is an endless futile battle - and i moan like sin about it but it takes me max 15 mins to load and unload each of them (everything bunged in the same wash - i dont colour sort but also dont buy white!), dishwasher i wont buy anything thats not dishwasher safe now

I've just googled this, £700 😱😱 I really want one now though

Kitchenbattle · 08/01/2026 12:56

@laralou how many wears do you give a bra?

potenial · 08/01/2026 12:12

Lauralou19 · 07/01/2026 18:35

Sorry if I wrote it wrong - I get dressed before 7am, in the shower after the kids are in bed (9pm). No way am I putting that top on the next day when ive been busy and on my feet all day. To me, thats basic standards. Yes I would rewear a jumper thats been over the top and clean but tshirts are washed after one wear same as underwear (ofcourse!).

I also wouldn't wear a top more than once without washing (under normal circumstances), but I just put it in the washing basket until there's a full load.

Growing up, the washing cycle started on Fridays - we'd come home in the evening, get changed out of school uniform and a parent would say 'come sort your washing' in their room there'd be a pile for each load (darks, red, whites etc), then the washing would mostly be done Friday eve/ Saturday morning (probably about 5/6 loads), with washing swapped to dryer/radiators/line/airers as soon as it had finished, and the next one put in. Worked really well as a predictable schedule - we just had to have enough uniform to allow it (eg 5 tops, 2/3 jumpers, 2/3 bottoms). Everything was ironed on Sunday afternoon/ evening, and then put away altogether (laid out on the couch, so we couldn't chill til that had been done). Throughout the week, we'd just put dirty stuff into a basket in our bedrooms.
I pretty much do the same now, but washing happens on WFH days usually (good 2 minute job to stretch legs away from the desk).

EastEndQueen · 08/01/2026 11:14

Tbh I could probably shave an hour off if I ironed less (I like an ironed bedsheet, it brings me joy) and if we had slightly less fresh fruit/ veg. I will spend 45 mins at least 2-3 times a week chopping big Tupperwares full of veg sticks, chopped watermelon, washed slices of little gem lettuce etc which we all snack on. I don’t really mind, I enjoy listening to a podcast and chopping, it’s quite calming. My robovaccum is a help and goes on nightly.

EastEndQueen · 08/01/2026 11:07

I don’t get an evening either. Can’t work from home in my role and 1-2 times a week will have a 12/13 hour shift so need to organise around that. Generally:
17.00: arrive back from work having collected from after school club en route
17.15-18.00: support homework and music practice for DC aged 6 and 9
18.00: cook dinner whilst DC have tech time. DH catches up on emails
18.45: dinner
19.15 DC bath and bedtime (also +++distractable if not supervised
20.00 Meal prep, laundry, ironing, catch up on work
22.00 bath and bedtime by 23.00

I do go to adult choir one night a week (with pub after!) and I watch tv and listen to podcasts whilst meal prepping and doing laundry but otherwise same as you OP.

Lauralou19 · 08/01/2026 10:57

Catwalking · 07/01/2026 06:21

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary
“Letting the washing machine & dishwasher run while you’re sleeping is a fire risk”
Not true: What would be the earthly point of having an automatic machine of any sort if you couldn’t leave it alone or run when electricity is at a cheaper rate.
maybe look beyond AI, & find what UK fore services say?

It absolutely is! Every fire service in the country tells you not to leave them unattended. Absolutely never to have them going whilst asleep. My car lets me drive 100mph but there’s no where I should be doing that. Just because your appliance allows you to do that, doesn’t mean its safe. Please google the statistics on appliance fires.

Washing on every morning, done an hour later and out on the line before school run/work. If its raining, tumble dryer on when im home or airer for stuff that cant be tumble dried.

Your family and home are more important than a load of washing.

Ludinous · 08/01/2026 10:33

Clefable · 07/01/2026 18:38

We do a wash load a day as a family of 4 and we have an 11kg machine! I take the blame for it as I have a thing about only wearing a pair of pyjamas once before washing and now the kids do the same out of habit. And the rest of their clothes definitely need washed every day. Then just stuff like towels, clothes, bedding once a week, the dog bed, I work out pretty much every day so exercise clothes in there daily, coats and puddle suits at this time of year, etc.

Sorry! I am very mindful of the environment the rest of the time, honest! And I do use the eco cycle and a heat pump dryer!

Edited

Sorry maybe I've missed the answer somewhere but why do the clothes need washing every day? Surely they don't wear a set of clothes, have them washed and then wear the same stuff again? Like, we purposely have enough school clothes for our DD so that we don't need to wash her stuff during the week. Then it can all go in together at the the end of the week. That way we only need 1 was for her stuff.

mamajong · 08/01/2026 10:23

Dc have been making their own packups since age 8 - easy enough to make a sandwich and grab some snacks. Weekday meals are a combination of easy cook (30 mins max) or batch cooked on the weekend to be heated. We have a jobs rota so dc have one small job a day - load the dishwasher, clean the kitchen sides, vacuum the dining room after dinner. I do a 30 min maintence clean each day (ie monday wipe bathrooms and bleach loos, tuesday vaccum downstairs rooms...etc) and then a bigger clean for a couple hours on a weekend day. We usually get an evening from 830/9 most days. I cant really work out why you dont. Are you doubling up on jobs? I.e while dinner is cooking i will stick a wash on or make a shopping list, while making coffee i will onload the dishwasher or clean the sink)

Worried198423 · 08/01/2026 10:13

If you have lots of crockery that needs to be handwashed buy some cheap pots and pans.
One of you sits with the child still eating and the other does chores.
Your kids are at thr age where you shobe getting a couple of hours in the evening to unwind.

If you want evening time,just getup earlier in the morning and do your stuff then.

Garman · 08/01/2026 09:51

We have 5 people living here, cook every evening, no dishwasher and we spend about 20 mins max washing up in an evening, I don’t see how it’s taking so long at all with a dishwasher! Get a robot hoover, hoovering should take 30 mins max? If you’re dawdling that long doing these jobs cut the areas where you can like a robot hoover to do it. It’ll definitely do it faster too 😆

vanillalattes · 08/01/2026 09:10

It sounds like you need to be a bit more organised and do things as you go. Also make the most of the delay functions on appliances and don’t worry about preheating ovens (I’ve never preheated an oven in my life and everything comes out fine).

drspouse · 08/01/2026 09:02

Americasfavouritefightingfrenchman · 08/01/2026 08:25

We batch cook but I do it as part of making meals over the week. If I’m making a curry or bolognese or cottage pie or stew or mac and cheese then it’s not really any more effort to make 3 lots and that way I might cook from scratch on a Saturday & Sunday when we have a bit more time but can use previous weeks frozen meals for several nights in the week. Then other nights we do something easy like sausage & mash, stir fry, fajitas etc

Edited

This is how we do it. DH wouldn't get his act together to batch cook at the weekend but if we are making Bolognese or orzotto or sausage casserole I just put a note on the monthly menu to make double. (He's not a natural cook but even he manages this plus washing the pans as he goes).

Justploddingonandon · 08/01/2026 08:49

Neurodiversitydoctor · 08/01/2026 06:05

Our plates and bowls are in a low cupboard next to the dishwaher by design.

Ah, my sink is next to the dishwasher and we don’t have many low cupboards.

Americasfavouritefightingfrenchman · 08/01/2026 08:25

Lauralou19 · 07/01/2026 21:49

You can learn from this thread that if people aren’t doing jobs in the week, they are doing it either at the weekend or have a cleaner. Some people have said standards are lower (also ok). If people batch cook, thats most likely going to be the weekend (I cant think of anything worse but not a huge fan of cooking - some might enjoy that).

If you do daily washing, like your house clean and want to enjoy family time at the weekend, something has to give. Its the evenings for some of us. It has to give somewhere in the week for working parents. Everyone is juggling.

Also, it is only the very basics mentioned in this thread- if you live in a house with a garden, there’s a ton of other jobs to do every week (not quite so many in the Winter). If we left everything to the weekend - housework (we’re quite a large house), laundry, ironing, gardening and thats without any DIY (we’ve done a complete renovation), paperwork etc, our weekends wouldn’t be how they are now.

We batch cook but I do it as part of making meals over the week. If I’m making a curry or bolognese or cottage pie or stew or mac and cheese then it’s not really any more effort to make 3 lots and that way I might cook from scratch on a Saturday & Sunday when we have a bit more time but can use previous weeks frozen meals for several nights in the week. Then other nights we do something easy like sausage & mash, stir fry, fajitas etc

drspouse · 08/01/2026 08:22

ukathleticscoach · 07/01/2026 12:43

'I have a proper evening most days. Every morning I empty the dishwasher, put some clean washing away, load the dishwasher throughout the day, after tea tidy up properly & wipe worktops, dishwasher on, tidy up living room, then head upstairs to put toddler to bed, come back down to a nice clean house ready for some time to myself :)'

So you are not working!

We go to bed about 12 get up at 7 kids get up at same time.1 younger child bed by 9 other about 10-10:30

I work and also load the dishwasher as I go. So breakfast dishes after breakfast, lunch at work/school, dinner after dinner. Yesterday I emptied it while the kettle was boiling, it didn't need running last night so we'll empty it while dinner is cooking tonight as it's full now after breakfast.

RedMoon111 · 08/01/2026 07:28

Can you get up earlier and do some of this in the morning.
Make lunch in the morning, quick whizz around with the hoover?
Batch cook so you only need to heat some meals up so less washing up?
If eating dinner together and chatting with desserts is what you want to do thats fine but thats how you're choosing to spend your evening. We only do that at weekends. During the week we eat dinner together but 20 mins tops and everyone has put their plate in the dishwasher.

Lilybo7 · 08/01/2026 06:34

Totally understand. I don’t get home from work till earliest 6.15, then by the time got dinner, sorted school stuff, clothes etc for next day, helped with homework then DD has a bath. She’s not ready for bed till at least 9 by which time I’m in the bath and bed ready to get up at 6am. I have absolutely zero time for TV unless I watch it on an iPad in bed between 9-10. 10pm is lights out.

CountryGirlInTheCity · 08/01/2026 06:25

Littlebittiredoflife · 07/01/2026 21:46

We have lots of pans and crockery that can't go in dishwasher because we only got one last year. We have to use it because we don't have enough plates to not use them! Obviously anything that needs replacing is now bought as dishwasher safe but I don't have money to throw away.

But if you’ve gone to the expense of buying a dishwasher (presumably to save you time) surely it’s a false economy not to use it fully and still have lots of washing up to do. You can get a set of two sizes of plates and bowls for a family of four for £20 from Ikea. That’s not throwing money away it’s being efficient.

I can understand not putting hand painted plates in the dw but are you sure that the pots and pans that you hand wash can’t go in? Practically everything is dishwasher safe now. The only things I handwash are our expensive kitchen knives and my chilli water bottle.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 08/01/2026 06:15

Lauralou19 · 07/01/2026 21:49

You can learn from this thread that if people aren’t doing jobs in the week, they are doing it either at the weekend or have a cleaner. Some people have said standards are lower (also ok). If people batch cook, thats most likely going to be the weekend (I cant think of anything worse but not a huge fan of cooking - some might enjoy that).

If you do daily washing, like your house clean and want to enjoy family time at the weekend, something has to give. Its the evenings for some of us. It has to give somewhere in the week for working parents. Everyone is juggling.

Also, it is only the very basics mentioned in this thread- if you live in a house with a garden, there’s a ton of other jobs to do every week (not quite so many in the Winter). If we left everything to the weekend - housework (we’re quite a large house), laundry, ironing, gardening and thats without any DIY (we’ve done a complete renovation), paperwork etc, our weekends wouldn’t be how they are now.

Batch cooking doesn't have to be a special activity. Just cook double on the days you have time to cook something "proper" and then you have a frozen version for the days you don't.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 08/01/2026 06:05

Justploddingonandon · 07/01/2026 20:44

How are you all getting your primary aged children to empty the dishwasher? My admittedly short 10 year old still can’t reach half the cupboards, even with a step.

Our plates and bowls are in a low cupboard next to the dishwaher by design.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 08/01/2026 05:03

Nibblerscribbler · 07/01/2026 19:53

I use deodorant. It’s excellent and preventing sweating and body odour. Why not give it a try?

You don’t wash your shirts after wearing them all day?

I wear deodorant but that’s not so I don’t change my clothes.