Dd17 holiday been turned down from work

Many people take holidays in February, including skiers obviously, but also those who want to visit Southern European destinations before the temperatures start to climb.

Yanbu.
Your dd needs to push this at work. Of course a business has to manage annual leave sensibly, everyone can't be off at the same time . But she has had every single annual leave rejected that falls in school holidays. She should have been given at least one of them. There's an unfairness at play here and it's not somewhere I'd want to work.

Sounds a bit off if the leave is already booked in for 26/27, we haven't even had our new forms for it yet! What kind of job is it?!

You are being unreasonable, you said it yourself in the first line so not sure what else we can do for you.
Be thankful that your daughter has a job. Have you been paying attention to the news about the labour market recently ? It's a bloody disaster.
However "hormonal and emotional" you are, you must understand that missing a trip to Cornwall is a first world problem. I sincerely hope you are not making a drama scene out of this. There were will be more opportunities in the future to spend more time with your children.
Learn how to look at the positive side when being delivered bad news. It is a crucial skill to master.

OP, someone's prob said already but take the younger ones away during term time, just for the next few years?

If not, they will be older soon and you won't be limited to the school holidays which are so competitive in terms of AL.

I'm not sure it's true that it is something employer's 'cannot' do, though I agree it's crap and unfair practice. Being a parent isn't a protected characteristic but nor is not being a parent, so it isn't discrimination to treat either group worse - unless you can argue it's indirect discrimination, but you could make that argument in lots of different ways (e.g. yes you could say prioritising parents was indirect age discrimination - but you could also say that not prioritising childcare needs was indirect discrimination against women as they would disproportionately be impacted. I think both are quite tenuous). Ultimately only a tribunal could decide but there is nothing inherently unlawful about not being given holiday you want. If the DD's employer told her she had to take her holiday at the exact times of their choosing no matter how undesirable the timing then that's perfectly lawful, though it wouldn't do much for employee goodwill.

No, parents do not take priority. It should be fair to ALL.

Sounds like discrimination and ageism against the young.

Parents need to sort their own bloody childcare, not rely on teenage colleagues to prop them up.

You feel sick at the suggestion she’s not going on holiday with you? That overreaction means this is the perfect time for her not to be going on holiday with you for the first time. It’s not a big deal.

Or that the manager approving was trying to balance up different requests and so everyone got some of their leave approved and some not, just like the DD.

February is our best favourite time to go away. Accommodation is miles cheaper. Everything is less busy. Comfortable temperature for sightseeing. As soon as Christmas and New Year are done you have something to look forward to in the grimdark. By the time you get back, spring is on it's way.

I agree that isn't fair. I also don't think first-come-first-served is fair, especially if it means that you can get all the best leave by putting in your request at 1.30am. In practice, the only fair outcomes are going to mean no one gets all of what they want, which means no one will be fully happy.

My old work were very clear from day 1, do not book to go on holiday until your annual leave is approved as they cannot guarantee it. It is first come, first served and we all knew when booking was open, I would go on the system the day it became live and request what I wanted for the whole year in one hit. Even then i didn't always get it all. Your daughter has a job and if she is needed to work then she has to work, that's being an adult. She should have booked her annual leave asap and you shouldn't have booked your family holiday until you knew when she was off.

What was the reason that all her holiday requests were denied? Especially when she submitted them the second the holiday book opened.

Either way you need to accept it and not let us make you spiral.

What if annual leave request from other staff had already been submitted? Surely then a business need refusal is because there is no other stuff to cover so they are required?

The OP’s daughter put in her request 90 minutes after the calendar opened. It just seems very suspicious and like the employer are saving the dates for parents. Which they can’t do.

2 scenarios - either she is not as bothered about the family holiday as you think and would rather not rock the boat at work / save the leave for other things. She is worried to tell you hence “can’t get the time off”

OR she is actually bothered. If so, can she get advice from the union or ACAS? It seems very restrictive if she can’t get any time over a 6 week period in summer, or October half term. Hard to know without knowing her profession.

I go away in February some years - it’s super affordable!

I would be curious when exactly she’s meant to use her leave if months of the year aren’t available to her. And find out how to avoid this in future - it is a priority system for people with kids, should she be applying now for next year, etc… and then go from there. She can’t come away with you this year if you won’t go away in February or May so you’ll either go away with her 1:1 another time or just enjoy the time with your other children and she can enjoy an empty house.

I would be pretty furious if leave at my place was decided on the basis of who needs childcare. It is not colleague’s responsibility to arrange their AL around my kid’s childcare needs and vice versa.

Did they say why those dates weren’t any good? Has she recently qualified in early years or similar where holiday has to be taken at specific times?

I think you will find that is not lawful. Or fair. Parents don’t “need” to have holidays with their DC. They just want to have a holiday with their family, just as OP’s DD does. Remember, no one books holidays in school holidays unless they have to as it’s much more expensive. They need to have suitable holiday childcare arranged and several options are available to them. After all, the vast majority of people can’t take all the school holidays as annual leave so they must be making arrangements for the other times.

Having school age DC doesn’t give you priority rights to hog all the holiday dates that suit you best. I never expected special treatment when DC were school age, why should I?

This ^
Do you depend on her for emotional regulation? Maybe she wants a holiday from the holiday iyswim?

This is the start of many changes which will come along as your DC grow up and enter the world of work and want to make independent choices. If it's her first proper job she needs to perform well, get the experience for her CV and earn a good reference then she might think about moving on to another job with more flexible holidays.

As for Feb half term it's fine for winter sun somewhere like the Canaries or skiing or just embrace the off season vibe and find somewhere nice in the UK. It's a shame she can't get time off in the main summer hols (and Whitsun is too close to her other holiday?) but long weekends are possible, especially Bank Hol.

It will happen but are her work treating her fairly? That seems a bit crap for anyone of any age.

No. It isn’t. Being a parent is not a protected characteristic and employers cannot favour parents and tell other employees that they are banned from taking leave during school
holidays.