Dd17 holiday been turned down from work

No, people like you who present as liabilities in the workplace aren't going to change their minds. I hope at some stage you get some robust performance management and your flaky approach to employment gets the consequences it deserves.

So you’re around 38 years old (assuming you’re classing 18 as working age) and still wholeheartedly believe that you’re in charge of your employer, when you’re evidently not, and the best thing to do is take a continuous lend.

Unemployable by anyone sensible. Any manager with the least bit experience and clue would weasel you out of the business with absolutely no evidence of recourse for unfair dismissal.

”Cry about it” is also the most infantile thing I’ve read here in a long time. The rest of us have moved beyond our teenage years, maybe try it.

I’d be a bit sad about it too OP. I know lots of 18 year old don’t want to holy day with their parents but ours still like to come, I always give them the choice but they always choose to. They’re 18 and 21.

is she sad about it or does she seem ok? She’s an adult at the end of the day and if she’s ok about it then I guess you just take the younger ones and don’t stress but if she’s upset then is there any chance she could swap leave with someone?

Well I’ve managed almost 20 years of my working life and yet to defer from my beliefs so… cry about it I guess?

I would love to see that poster’s employment history. But she never lasts anywhere long. I don’t think many employers are crying out for immature staff.

I think you may be right there, though of course we will never know. If the DD knows of her mother's neurodiversity and if the case, liking of routine, then being able to say someone else is why she cannot go on a family holiday may be chosen.

Are you really a grown adult?

Most employers have in their contracts of employment that persistent sickness will be managed through the company disciplinary and/or capability procedures.

Plus, there’s more than one way to skin a cat. You’d be managed out, and if done by someone with a clue you’d be taking that “unfair dismissal” claim directly to the dole queue.

I don’t believe you’re employed by anyone who’s not an absolute idiot, or you wouldn’t last 5mins with that attitude to work.

And someone would be losing what exactly? 😂 a big payout from unfair dismissal, paid time off, and being able to get a new job under the poor me being unfairly dismissed? 😂

girl honestly just get with the programme you’re not going to change my thoughts.

Storm on a teacup.

Yeah and they they can manage you out using the sickness policy

yes it can go to tribunal but honestly a lot of firms will take the hit to get rid of a twat of an employee

We are all different,there was no need to be so blunt!

It's the only holiday request that wasn't for the school holidays.

With all due respect, did you not find it strange that the only holiday request approved is for when she’s away with her friend?

I’d probably take the hint if it was my DC.

Our 29 year old son likes to come with us, he also goes on holiday with his long term gf. She's not keen on our activity holidays

My advice (with two in their early twenties and a nineteen year old) is to suggest that you try to reframe your feelings about this. Children grow up and when they reach adulthood that’s a massive achievement for you and them. You’ve succeeded in raising a child who is now holding down a proper job. That is wonderful. And they presumably enjoy adequately good health and can fully participate in life. How fortunate your family is that your eldest has reached this stage. We tend to take health and growth for granted- not long ago even in our society this was not a realistic expectation for all our children and it still isn’t for many across the world and even in our own society many people would be incredibly grateful to have their child at this stage in life. Of course it is sad for us as parents to say goodbye to elements of childhood but my view and experience is that we must consciously balance this against pride and gratitude.

So you think that nobody should ever quit a job once they’ve got one? Or is it fine if it’s for reasons you personally agree with?

I never said anything about him not working hard and it is admirable that he has a part time job. But my comment stands if he has a job he has made a commitment to the business, that's how a job works.
Genarally people book holidays in advance so it's reasonable for anyone who is working to check for time off. If you want to encourage him just to slack the job off that is obviously your perogative.

Oh come on now.

This is a 17 year old boy who's working hard at his A Levels and has worked 8am-6pm on Saturdays in a local cafe for minimum wage for about 4 months. He doesn't 'need' the money and spends it on random teenage crap as you'd expect. He has two brothers who are younger that he's close to. He's also more than happy to come on every single holiday and trip we arrange because we book them around the dc to make sure they're appealing for them. None of the 'dragging' on holiday here, he's bloody delighted anytime he realises he's about to get an all expenses paid trip to X 😂

Do you really, truly, think most teenagers in this position would say 'sorry mum and dad, I have work on Saturdays in Pete's Cafe. Nevermind. You all go to Greece without me and i'll see you in a fortnight'.

YES he'd hand his notice in and Pete's Cafe wouldn't see his arse for dust 😂😂

We normally go to coder family fur Christmas abroad every other year. My son works in retail and couldn’t get the time off so we didn’t go. But we are going at Easter and he’s booked the time off and I’ve bought the tickets.
Unfortunately this is how it is. Though a little bit of me wonders, as she got the time off to go away with friends, maybe she didn’t even ask about the other two dates?

If the company couldn’t accommodate her holiday request with pay, they’re unlikely to grant time off without pay.

Unfortunate indeed. Only one of her requests has been granted!

Choose just one of the family holidays and ask your daughter if she could take time off without pay for that one week.

You and your DD sit down and decide which holiday she would be best to attend with you. She needs to give her employer plenty of warning and take time off without pay.

The commitment ends with a notice. 9 hours a week is probably a zero hours contract, so the mutual responsibility is intentionally low.

Yes, he needs to plan ahead. I'd expect the business to try to find a way to allow a reasonable request. If the business has a vacation policy which doesn't work for the employee, it's a fair reason to leave the job.

It’s understandable to feel sad when life changes like this but our kids grow up and you should feel proud she is responsible enough to hold down a full time job.
You have to holiday in school holidays to fit around your younger kids and she can’t get leave so can’t come, what else can you do?
I think this year will be our first summer hol without kids (18,20), feel a bit sad about it but I’m also kind of looking forward to not wasting half the morning waiting for them to get up and sorted and out 😀

I guess plan B would be to work until the summer, and quit, so your notice ends with the start of holiday, and start looking for a new job now.

If he has a job regardless of hours he has made a commitment to that business. He still needs to plan ahead and if the request is denied because someone else is already off are you really saying its OK to jump ship because the boss has said no??