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Asked to give up my seat on bus

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Motnight · 05/01/2026 16:36

On a packed London bus. A pregnant young woman has asked for my seat (only know that she is pregnant from her badge).I've said no, can she ask one of the younger more able bodied people sitting opposite or behind me? There are at least 4 people that are in their 20s / 30s and look physically fit sitting down.

She looked very shocked but just said ok. I am in my early 60s. I fell on ice a few days ago and am feeling a bit more wobbly than usual. Was I unreasonable?

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2026new · 05/01/2026 17:11

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 16:46

You weren't feeling 100%? So what 80%? As opposed to someone who could be feeling really shitty from morning sickness, nausea, having to balance standing on a moving vehicle?

You seem rather determined to be unpleasant over something very reasonable. Are you always so insufferable ?

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 17:10

Paganpentacle · 05/01/2026 17:04

Whys that then?
Older lady feeling wobbly and at risk of falling over Vs pregnant woman

Not seeing why pregnancy trumps here... she's not disabled, or ill, or elderly, or infirm, or recovering from a fall....

Because if the bus stops suddenly or someone bangs into her bump it could cause considerable harm to the baby. Nausea can impact balance. In the early stages before the pregnancy is visible she is likely suffering with morning sickness....

Ineffable23 · 05/01/2026 17:10

This is the sort of thing where, if you can face it, I would offer to ask more broadly. "I'm afraid I'm quite off balance today so I can't offer you my seat, but why don't I ask if anyone else is able to offer you a seat instead?" I think it's probably easier to ask for a seat on someone else's behalf than your own.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/01/2026 17:09

Lucytheloose · 05/01/2026 17:03

Pregnancy is a choice. Getting older is not.

I hate that argument.
Yes pregnancy is a choice for most people, but nobody chooses to have a difficult pregnancy.
Lots of the things that might leave you ending up needing a seat, like breaking a leg while horse riding, eating too much leading to obesity or smoking causing a stroke, crossing the road without looking resulting in injury, are a result of life choices but they are still genuine needs.

The average bus or train carriage has enough seats that all the genuinely pregnant, elderly, sick or disabled no matter from what cause, people can have one without us having to set them against each other.

Nopenott0day · 05/01/2026 17:09

I'm mid 30s. I'm also (if sat down I don't look it, but hey that's RA for you) disabled. So maybe don't judge the 'youngsters' sat down.

I didn't choose to be disabled. However women choose to be pregnant.

Genevieva · 05/01/2026 17:09

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 16:39

it takes a bit of bravery to ask, if you were in a priority seat you should have moved

There’s no hierarchy on the priority seating. It’s simply an informal request to give up your seat if the need arises and you can stand. There is no need for anyone involved to evidence their need or share private medical information. The OP had good reason for refusing.

Nevermind17 · 05/01/2026 17:09

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 16:58

Well it doesnt trump a broken leg, it does trump a sore throat. I put a "bit wobbly" in the same category as the latter.

An older person being “a bit wobbly” is at much greater risk than young people being a bit wobbly. A fall that might just embarrass a young person can be fatal to someone with osteoporosis, for example. And many older women don’t even know they have it until they break a bone. My DGM took a tumble, broke her pelvis and died a couple of weeks later.

HoLeeFuk · 05/01/2026 17:08

YABVU because you did the same as her, singling out certain people to ask directly because they "look" less able to stand. If you think that's acceptable then how can you whinge when someone does it to you?

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 17:08

MrsKateColumbo · 05/01/2026 17:03

I used to ask in a general "please can I have a seat" way so it wasnt pressuring one person who may not be able to stand. I think this is a better technique than picking an (older looking?) Lady

I once offered my seat to a lady who was not pregnant so badges are very useful for avoiding embarrassment!!

I find that that that is met with everyone studiously looking down pretending they haven't heard and hoping that someone else will offer. Usually in a train carriage of 50 people it takes about 20 seconds of awkwardness for someone to reluctantly get up. No one is rushing to help the pregnant lady

DeftGoldHedgehog · 05/01/2026 17:06

I don't think either person is necessarily being unreasonable. Yes, pregnancy isn't a disability but it can be if you certain conditions that can come with it. And there should be other people who could offer a seat before a older person feeling unwell.

RippleTV · 05/01/2026 17:06

MrsKateColumbo · 05/01/2026 17:03

I used to ask in a general "please can I have a seat" way so it wasnt pressuring one person who may not be able to stand. I think this is a better technique than picking an (older looking?) Lady

I once offered my seat to a lady who was not pregnant so badges are very useful for avoiding embarrassment!!

I, in my 40s, was once offered a seat 3 times on one day. I'm still not sure if I looked old, pregnant or sick.

Paganpentacle · 05/01/2026 17:04

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 16:58

Well it doesnt trump a broken leg, it does trump a sore throat. I put a "bit wobbly" in the same category as the latter.

Whys that then?
Older lady feeling wobbly and at risk of falling over Vs pregnant woman

Not seeing why pregnancy trumps here... she's not disabled, or ill, or elderly, or infirm, or recovering from a fall....

BandedSnail · 05/01/2026 17:04

60andcounting · 05/01/2026 16:47

Do women wear badges to say they are pregnant ?

Some do on London transport.

wrongthinker · 05/01/2026 17:04

Neither person was being unreasonable. Fine for the woman to politely ask, and equally fine for the OP to politely refuse. If there were young, fit gentlemen on the bus, they should have stood, and shouldn't have needed to be asked. But in any case, you don't have to give up a seat just because someone asks you.

MrsKateColumbo · 05/01/2026 17:03

I used to ask in a general "please can I have a seat" way so it wasnt pressuring one person who may not be able to stand. I think this is a better technique than picking an (older looking?) Lady

I once offered my seat to a lady who was not pregnant so badges are very useful for avoiding embarrassment!!

GreyBeeplus3 · 05/01/2026 17:03

Yes they do and the mums I've met in my time who do so also tend to carry a very smug look also

Lucytheloose · 05/01/2026 17:03

Pregnancy is a choice. Getting older is not.

BillieWiper · 05/01/2026 17:02

I'd have said something like 'really sorry but I've got a bad leg.' then at least her and another nosy folks overhearing would know you had a reason and weren't mobile enough. Rather just being a bit mean.

Daftypants · 05/01/2026 17:02

why do people keep saying the OP was in a priority seat !!
I am in my 60s and while I look younger and appear well I can’t stand for too long sometimes and if I have a seat I would be reluctant to give my seat up

RippleTV · 05/01/2026 17:02

me24x · 05/01/2026 17:00

As someone who had to travel into London numerous times for work through both of my pregnancies and I received a response similar to yours on a packed train and ended up fainting in the middle of the aisle, I think you should’ve given it up. I also second what a pp said about it taking a lot of courage to ask, it really did for me anyway.

No, you should have asked someone else, surely?. It's possible that two people on a train might need a seat. That doesn't mean one of them needs to stand.

RippleTV · 05/01/2026 17:01

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 16:58

Well it doesnt trump a broken leg, it does trump a sore throat. I put a "bit wobbly" in the same category as the latter.

There's no real reason most pregnant women shouldn't stand for a bit. Someone "wobbly" on a bus could come to harm, and actually, cause harm (or delay) to others on the bus.

Some pregnant women may need to sit, but being pregnant doesn't necessarily make it so. I have a friend who cycled to work every day of her pregnancy and another who was running regularly until the end. They could stand on a bus!

AndeanFlamingo · 05/01/2026 17:00

Not unreasonable at all. I'm in my forties and look completely fit and healthy but in reality I can't stand without fainting so I used to dread someone asking me to give up my seat when I used to regularly use public transport.

SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2026 17:00

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SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2026 17:00

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 16:46

You weren't feeling 100%? So what 80%? As opposed to someone who could be feeling really shitty from morning sickness, nausea, having to balance standing on a moving vehicle?

or someone who felt fine but thought bring8pregnant entitled her to a seat. we can all make up feelings of entitlement to serve the narrative we choose.

SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2026 17:00

midsomermurderer · 05/01/2026 16:46

You weren't feeling 100%? So what 80%? As opposed to someone who could be feeling really shitty from morning sickness, nausea, having to balance standing on a moving vehicle?

or someone who felt fine but thought bring8pregnant entitled her to a seat. we can all make up feelings of entitlement to serve the narrative we choose.

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