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Asked to give up my seat on bus

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Motnight · 05/01/2026 16:36

On a packed London bus. A pregnant young woman has asked for my seat (only know that she is pregnant from her badge).I've said no, can she ask one of the younger more able bodied people sitting opposite or behind me? There are at least 4 people that are in their 20s / 30s and look physically fit sitting down.

She looked very shocked but just said ok. I am in my early 60s. I fell on ice a few days ago and am feeling a bit more wobbly than usual. Was I unreasonable?

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Lassofnorth · 05/01/2026 23:19

whatwouldlilacerullodo · 05/01/2026 21:50

That's insane, who asks an elderly man to stand up? Well done to the young man who called it up and gave up his seat.

Yep she did and still sat down while me and others looked on aghast . I was embarrassed for her .

ScribblingPixie · 05/01/2026 23:19

You weren't in the wrong, OP. I'd be put out if I was asked to stand when there were much younger people around. Early 60s isn't old but when you've fallen over it does remind you that your balance isn't quite so good any more. Did no one get up for her at all?

SpaceRaccoon · 05/01/2026 23:17

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 05/01/2026 20:22

I 💯 think that early pregnancy trumps wobbly on their feet. At 7 weeks I suffered from hyper emesis which meant I was nauseous and vomiting almost 24/7. I didn’t look pregnant and unless I told you, you wouldn’t know I was nauseous (until I was sick all over you).

im beyond fed up of pregnant women not getting the respect they deserve from society. it is one of the hardest things for the body to go through and yet still so many people, women included, don’t realise this.

You want respect cos you had a shag without contraception and think you're more important than someone who wobbles when they stand?
The entitlement is staggering.

Bunny44 · 05/01/2026 23:16

saraclara · 05/01/2026 22:28

As I said earlier, as an older person I find the opposite. The typical seat offerer in my experience, is a guy in his 20s or 30s. I'd say that's the case 90% of the time.

I'm embarrassed to say that women of all ages tend do the opposite, and have their bags on a second seat, making it unavailable, despite multiple people having to stand. I've now taken to pointedly, yet pleasantly, asking them to pick up their bag so that I can sit. At which they refuse to make eye contact and huff a bit.
It's really disappointing, but in this scenario, it's the men that come out ahead.

No it's actually more younger women that tend to stand up on buses, trains and tubes in London. I lived there for 15 years. Often on commuter trains people have their heads buried down. Followed by teenagers of all genders.

When I was heavily pregnant myself I found middle aged women the least likely to offer me a seat. Probably reflected in the attitudes on this thread.

Russiandollsaresofullofthemselves · 05/01/2026 23:13

It was fine for her to ask and it was also fine for you to say no. Also no is a complete sentence and you don’t owe her an explanation. I have a hidden disability and cannot stand on public transport and I never feel like I have to say anything more than no.

Bunny44 · 05/01/2026 23:11

Gahr · 05/01/2026 22:09

Entitled people who think that pregnancy makes them special.

F off. Hope you've never been pregnant and had to commute an hour on the tube 🙄. I'm glad women DO wear them so I can offer them my seat, which I do every time.

ThreeSixtyTwo · 05/01/2026 23:01

k1233 · 05/01/2026 22:14

I agree with not standing if you were injured yourself. Seated, like many others I look fine. I'm not fine. I've got severe degeneration of both hips, one knee, 3 vertebrae, and moderate degeneration in both sacroiliac joints. I'm in substantial pain, it's obvious when I walk. I got on the bus one morning, saw no vacant seats (seats mostly filled with school kids) and apologised to driver saying I'll need to catch the next bus as I need a seat. He was lovely and turned around and made a kid move so I could sit. I normally ask kids to get their bags off the seat so I can sit but don't ask them to move if they are sitting. A long time ago children would have stood without being asked but that's no longer taught and as a result when people in need need a seat, even as adults, they won't offer.

Why wouldn't just ask someone who occupies a priority seat?
There are marked, people sitting on them should know that they will need to give them up when asked.

WearyAuldWumman · 05/01/2026 22:59

Dragonflytamer · 05/01/2026 22:49

Come off it! - you're acting like 60 is infirm and elderly - whilst accusing others of being agist!

Well, I'd rather be nearly 26 than nearly 66 - I didn't have the sore feet and legs 40 years ago. I'm doing my best to keep up some level of fitness, but it's much more of a challenge these days - I'm trying to fight the loss of muscle mass, but... I'm shocked at how difficult it is for me to lift heavier weights these days.

I've seen medics about various ailments and have been told that it's simply "age-related degeneration". I've been advised that the most important thing for someone of my age is to try to build up thigh strength.

I'm finding myself amused at the description earlier of someone in their 60s being "middle-aged". I'm not really expecting to make it to 120.

Bunny44 · 05/01/2026 22:58

beeautifullif3 · 05/01/2026 21:06

Oh god those bloody im pregnant badges 🤦‍♀️

What about them? Clearly required based on the comments on here 🙄

Zov · 05/01/2026 22:55

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Actual wow.

Zov · 05/01/2026 22:54

Dragonflytamer · 05/01/2026 22:49

Come off it! - you're acting like 60 is infirm and elderly - whilst accusing others of being agist!

No. I'm not. Nice try but no. I'm saying people of 60 are MORE LIKELY to have mobility issues and health problems and issues with balance and hearing and eyesight.

Than someone 30 years younger.

I'm embarrassed for you that you don't get this.

Zov · 05/01/2026 22:50

imfabul0us · 05/01/2026 22:39

Same here 🤣

😆

Dragonflytamer · 05/01/2026 22:49

Zov · 05/01/2026 22:44

Rubbish. And ageist. The pregnant woman could have asked someone who is 30-40 years younger that the OP for their seat, but nooooo, she picks on the 60 year old. And no, 60 is NOT young. As someone who is pissing distance away from that age, I'm telling you it's bloody not.

Anyone (pregnant or not) who is asking a woman in her 60s to give up her seat instead of asking someone 30-40 years younger is incredibly thoughtless ... Unless the person is disabled, and struggling of course. Then again, even THEY should be asking the people in the accessible seats to move. And if they won't (or are disabled themselves) they should start by asking younger people.

The woman in question was pregnant. Not ill, not disabled. Pregnant. If she was so desperate for a seat she should have asked a few other people. And it was NOT for the OP to ask around for her as one poster laughably suggested! Hmm

Can't wait for YOU to get to 60! Your attitude will be a bit different then, I can tell you!

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Come off it! - you're acting like 60 is infirm and elderly - whilst accusing others of being agist!

Zov · 05/01/2026 22:44

FerriswheelsKissesandLilacs · 05/01/2026 21:08

Yes, some people in their 60s have health problems or are unfit. Some people in their 30s have health problems or are unfit. Hence why I specified "able-bodied". I know no 60 year olds who want to be treated like frail little old ladies or men, but apparently, lots of them on Mumsnet who think they count as "elderly" and need a seat more than a pregnant woman just by virtue of their age.

Rubbish. And ageist. The pregnant woman could have asked someone who is 30-40 years younger that the OP for their seat, but nooooo, she picks on the 60 year old. And no, 60 is NOT young. As someone who is pissing distance away from that age, I'm telling you it's bloody not.

Anyone (pregnant or not) who is asking a woman in her 60s to give up her seat instead of asking someone 30-40 years younger is incredibly thoughtless ... Unless the person is disabled, and struggling of course. Then again, even THEY should be asking the people in the accessible seats to move. And if they won't (or are disabled themselves) they should start by asking younger people.

The woman in question was pregnant. Not ill, not disabled. Pregnant. If she was so desperate for a seat she should have asked a few other people. And it was NOT for the OP to ask around for her as one poster laughably suggested! Hmm

Can't wait for YOU to get to 60! Your attitude will be a bit different then, I can tell you!

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imfabul0us · 05/01/2026 22:39

Zov · 05/01/2026 22:37

All the LOLz. 😂

Do they really?! Anyone expecting that of me will be very bitterly disappointed!

Same here 🤣

PeachySmile2 · 05/01/2026 22:38

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Zov · 05/01/2026 22:37

imfabul0us · 05/01/2026 22:35

YANBU. I think that people just expect an older I.e. invisible woman to be safe, motherly and accommodating.

All the LOLz. 😂

Do they really?! Anyone expecting that of me will be very bitterly disappointed!

january1244 · 05/01/2026 22:35

FerriswheelsKissesandLilacs · 05/01/2026 17:14

Really? I commuted through London whilst pregnant and most of the time I was offered a seat straight away. On occasion I had to ask and there were usually several people scrambling to get up and apologise. I hope things haven't changed that much in the last 6 years.

Re commenters saying about women choosing to be pregnant, it's irrelevant. It's not safe for a pregnant woman to fall and in some cases to stand for long periods of time. We will all depend on the next generation at some point and it is all of our responsibility to make space for parents and children to exist comfortably in our society. For pregnant women, that means give them your seat.

Same, I commuted into London and used the tubes, and I was constantly offered seats. I didn’t actually need them in 2nd trimester, so often said thanks so much that’s really kind but I’m feeling good today so you keep the seat. Later third trimester I was really grateful as I wasn’t feeling quite as good. My pregnancies were more recent, I was really pleasantly surprised by how kind people were

imfabul0us · 05/01/2026 22:35

YANBU. I think that people just expect an older I.e. invisible woman to be safe, motherly and accommodating.

Zov · 05/01/2026 22:34

Gahr · 05/01/2026 22:09

Entitled people who think that pregnancy makes them special.

That (pregnant) woman who asked the OP for her seat sounds like such a person.

🙄

PeachySmile2 · 05/01/2026 22:31

I am heavily pregnant myself. I would not ask anybody who was not sitting in a priority seat or anyone slightly elderly. She should have asked those in priority seats first.

Garroty · 05/01/2026 22:29

YANBU. I don't think she was necessarily unreasonable to ask (although it sounds like she could have picked someone more suitable) but you certainly weren't unreasonable to refuse when you need a seat too.

ExpectZeroContext · 05/01/2026 22:29

Well done for holding your ground. That rude woman ishould have asked someone younger. Exactly like your aptly suggested.

saraclara · 05/01/2026 22:28

landlordhell · 05/01/2026 21:22

DDs are using tubes daily and often see young men looking down at their phones totally unaware of the frail or pregnant who may have a greater need of a seat. They always offer their seats and the young men don’t bat an eyelid.

Edited

As I said earlier, as an older person I find the opposite. The typical seat offerer in my experience, is a guy in his 20s or 30s. I'd say that's the case 90% of the time.

I'm embarrassed to say that women of all ages tend do the opposite, and have their bags on a second seat, making it unavailable, despite multiple people having to stand. I've now taken to pointedly, yet pleasantly, asking them to pick up their bag so that I can sit. At which they refuse to make eye contact and huff a bit.
It's really disappointing, but in this scenario, it's the men that come out ahead.

onetwothreeweeeeeeeee · 05/01/2026 22:24

I remember an older lady angrily trying to give me her seat on a bus when I was visibly pregnant but young and fit. I told her I was fine and happy to stand as I was only going a short journey.

She told me if the bus slammed on its brakes suddenly and I fell over, my baby might die. I mean, I hadn’t thought of it like that before but now do try to offer my seat to pregnant women when I see them.