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To think my friend needs to send her son to a SEN school?

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SimonSaidIt · 05/01/2026 12:25

My very good friends son is non verbal (bar a select couple of phrases) and he is 7 years old. He has a diagnosis of autism and goes to mainstream school. He has had several 1:1 and the parents have little communication with the school, other than parents evening. From what my friend says, he spends his time with his 1:1, and she doesn’t get any updates on the work they do together. Her son doesn’t receive reading books or picture books from school or any type of homework.

Friend feels confident that he will make progress, and doesn’t think he would benefit from attending a SEN school. I’ve never worked in a school but have some personal experience of SEN and am worried in case he isn’t accessing the right education to help him make progress.

I think my friend is in denial about his needs and I’m concerned that it’s so hard to get places in these schools. If he’s not on a waitlist yet, I’d imagine it’ll be harder down the line?

I know it’s not my business. I just wondered if it’s likely that his school will encourage the parents to apply? I’m just so shocked that aren’t pushing for this, and suppose I’m worried the school could be failing the child.

Again, I know it’s not my business. I care very much for my friend and her gorgeous boy and just hope all turns out okay for them.

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FrightfulNightfull · 05/01/2026 13:01

OP I have a non verbal child.
You could give her all the homework you want but she couldn’t do it.

If you had a child in a special school (as I do) you would KNOW that there is mostly a play/therapy arrangement- not fucking phonics or homework. How would either make him “progress”?

What is it you think needs to be progressed?

Some children in special schools may “progress” but I don’t know what you think is going to happen.. it depends why the child is nonverbal in the first place!

I don’t know why my DD cannot speak- possibly it’s owing to cranial nerve damage.
Possibly autism. Kind of hard to know when she can’t do any standard tests for autism or for intellectual disability.

If you think you can teach or support your way out of non verbal communication you are a bit naive, to put it both bluntly and mildly.

My DD has a specialist SALT (council provided) and none of the measures she uses is going to make DD talk(coherently). Whatever caused her to be profoundly disabled at birth has presumably caused her to be unable to speak clearly or much.

If your friend’s son can use PECs or other adaptive technology he is slightly better than my DD and can begin communication.

But I don’t think mainstream school is a bad place for him if he isn’t intellectually or physically disabled. If he is autistic he can be doing just fine in mainstream school if he can use a system to communicate.

What exacts is it that you think he would gain at a special school that he wouldn’t at mainstream school?

If his speech could be helped with a SALT then he could have sessions privately and/or via an EHCP .. but you know sometimes people are nonverbal FOR LIFE.

Is this a family member’s child by any chance?

Coconutter24 · 05/01/2026 13:00

I think you’re right when you say it’s not your business

SimonSaidIt · 05/01/2026 12:58

See, this is my worry. I have another friend who has secured a place for her son. She fought and fought, and in my untrained opinion, her son’s needs are not as severe as this child’s.

My friends son is destructive in his play, breaking toys etc through not using them in the intended way, but is very much harmless to other children. I encouraged his mum to push for a meeting at least once a term. She hadn’t even been told what his targets were or what he was working on. My other friend, who’s child now has his SEN place, was aware of what targets they were working on, was trying to reinforce the same stuff at home etc, and that was whilst her son was in mainstream. I feel sorry for my friends son who is not being given the same chance to succeed. I’m not blaming my friend for this. I just think as long as school aren’t complaining about anything, she is happy to plod along and believes he will catch up with his peers. I’m just fearful in case this negatively impacts her son.

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Knittedfairies2 · 05/01/2026 12:48

I agree with @Icecreamandcoffee; getting a place in a special school requires some serious work, and you have to go full-on warrior mother sometimes; it's not as easy as some think.

Snaletrale · 05/01/2026 12:46

Formal education isn’t probably right for him at the moment, especially if he is non verbal. He’ll be accessing the eyfs curriculum with his 1:1 which will be play focused.

Daytimetellyqueen · 05/01/2026 12:46

If this is her first experience of SEN & education, she may simply be trusting the school to do the right thing, not realising that sadly that's not the case & she & her DH need to be a lot more active in this.

As a close friend, I’d speak to her, she may appreciate / need your insight. I imagine you’d be able to tell soon enough into the discussion whether she was appreciative of the information or not.

Icecreamandcoffee · 05/01/2026 12:44

It takes an iron will and hours and hours of advocating and navigating the system to get a place at an SEN school. It's pretty much a full time job to ensure an EHCP is enforced, jumping through the hoops and often going to court is required to get a place. It's cheaper for the LA to name a mainstream and will push for mainstream to the end no matter how unsuitable the placement is for the child.

Only the most severe children or with parents with the time, energy and education level to navigate the system get places. If mum is happy with his provision at mainstream then it is unlikely he will be offered a place at an SEN school. Unless he is severely dangerous to his peers or teaching staff or has very complex medical needs which require a lot of special management then the school is also unlikely to push for a place. Even if he falls incredibly far behind his peers unless mum really engages it's likely they will increase his 1:1 hours and keep in mainstream. It may mean that secondary options become limited but again most local authorities are mainstream at all costs.

OhDear111 · 05/01/2026 12:41

She could be far more hands on with the school. She’s sitting back and presumably doesn’t want him moving schools. She could ask for more info and a homework strategy for her to engage with and I’m amazed she has not.

All Sen dc have reviews as 1:1 costs money and all dc have progress carefully monitored. She could ask for his progress data. She could be liaising with the Sen coordinator and his teacher. However, if she doesn’t want him assessed, she doesn’t but the school will push for this at some stage if strategies fail. Before long, he won’t access the curriculum and the school and his mum will have to give this more thought. As he’s getting 1:1, the school is probably giving a lot of input but it doesn’t sound like she is working with them, and is sitting back.

I would encourage her to get far more involved with his education and certainly be clear about his progress. She might be in denial about his needs but I think you could suggest far more involvement - maybe she just says to you he doesn’t get books and Phonics work because it’s not getting him anywhere? Maybe she does not want to be involved? Don’t fall out with her over it.

Kirbert2 · 05/01/2026 12:40

Does he have an EHCP? Without one, he isn't going to get a place anyway and even with one it can be incredibly difficult. Especially if the LA and school believe he is coping in mainstream.

If your friend is happy with his school, you do need to stay out of it.

ObladeeObladi · 05/01/2026 12:36

There is a chronic shortage of SEN school places - I know of several children in our city who are non verbal and in mainstream schools with support, those parents have fought and are fighting for special school places but will only get one if the mainstream place totally breaks down and there are no other options.

I think as a close friend with a background in education it would be reasonable to ask what their thoughts are, to express that in general it can be easier to get special places younger (as more and more kids need them as they get older), but you should be prepared to hear that they don’t have any realistic chance of getting it and are just doing their best.

SimonSaidIt · 05/01/2026 12:31

HobnobsChoice · 05/01/2026 12:29

She's only going to be able to send him to a special school if it's named in his EHCP (if you are in England) you can't just choose to send your child to one. It may or may not be something they've considered at primary level or they might feel mainstream is ok for him now and then special school at secondary level. If school, parents and child are happy with him being in mainstream for now then it's their business. As you say it's none of your business and the parents can make their own decisions about their child. Should they want additional input they can talk to IPSEA or their local SENDIASS for more information and advice.

Thank you. This is so reassuring to hear. Hopefully the current arrangement is in the best interests of the child.

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HobnobsChoice · 05/01/2026 12:29

She's only going to be able to send him to a special school if it's named in his EHCP (if you are in England) you can't just choose to send your child to one. It may or may not be something they've considered at primary level or they might feel mainstream is ok for him now and then special school at secondary level. If school, parents and child are happy with him being in mainstream for now then it's their business. As you say it's none of your business and the parents can make their own decisions about their child. Should they want additional input they can talk to IPSEA or their local SENDIASS for more information and advice.

SimonSaidIt · 05/01/2026 12:28

i should add, the phrases he says are not in context. They are sort of said to himself there are about 3 phrases he will say. He makes no verbal requests and does not respond verbally to anything.

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