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To think that my mother is making a mistake

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AnnaQuayInTheUk · 04/01/2026 10:46

My mum is in her 80s, very capable and competent. A few years ago she moved in with her partner and let out her home. She had one set of tenants for the first few years, no problems. They moved out in the summer so she now has new tenants. All done through a local letting agent.

Her bungalow is in very good condition, well maintained but slightly dated. Since the new tenants have moved in they've asked for some minor changes. - bathroom cabinet to be moved to a different wall, internal glazed door to be changed to a solid one - which mum has happily agreed to and paid for

It transpires that they have now proposed (and mum has agreed) to replace all the kitchen cabinet doors at their expense, not mums. The doors are fine, solid wood, nothing is broken but they are dated.

I have no idea how much this is going to cost the tenants. The kitchen is quite big with a few integrated appliances, so it won't be cheap. The kitchen isn't going to be updated in any other way apart from being painted a colour of the tenants choice which my mum has agreed to pay for as it hasn't been done for a few years

Obviously it's none of my business, but I don't think my mum should be agreeing to the tenants choosing and paying for the new kitchen doors. What happens if mum wants them to leave shortly afterwards if she needs to return to the property? Would she have to repay them the money for the doors? I really think she's making a mistake.

So
YABU - it's none of my business and I should let mum get on with it
YANBU. - you need to try to persuade her not to allow this

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Rictasmorticia · 04/01/2026 16:56

I don’t think who owns the door has any relevance. They are hardly going to find a place where 18 doors will exactly fit the new kitchen. Get the Agent to draw up an agreement saying the doors have to stay if you are really concerned.

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 04/01/2026 16:51

I think my mum is hoping the tenants will be there for the foreseeable future. My worry is if they aren't, and who "owns" the doors.

If the tenants replace the doors at their cost and then have to move out for some reason, do they have any comeback about recouping the cost? I just don't think mum has thought this through.

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slapmyarseandcallmemary · 04/01/2026 16:51

In one of the rental we lived, we replaced the carpet in the large living room with laminate. We paid for it and the labour to fit it instead of rent one month. That was the landlord's decision.

Whyherewego · 04/01/2026 16:34

When I rented out my old flat, my tenant often asked to do improvements. He was a fairly long-standing tenant and we had a good relationship. Some things I paid for eg new hob, but decorating etc I didn't and he just did the work. I just said if I wasn't happy with colour eg if he'd painted the bedroom black or something, he'd have to make good. But generally it was (for me) a sign he cared for the flat and was committed to staying there. Which he did until he'd saved up for a deposit to buy one.

ETA if mum thinks this will add value to home, personally I'd pay for it and just offset cost on profits.

Hallpast · 04/01/2026 16:31

We’ve got long term tenants who live in a house we own. They make changes to the house, in agreement with us, at their expense. They have updated the bathrooms, recarpeted, removed fitted wardrobes, changed floorings etc. all done to a decent standard. They are good people and it’s their home and hopefully will be for many years to come

user2848502016 · 04/01/2026 16:00

I think she should say no too because then the doors are the tenant’s property and it could get tricky if she wants them to leave, they could take the doors with them or ask for reimbursement.
I’d either get a proper kitchen makeover company to come in and paint the walls and cabinets at the same time, which would probably be a good investment anyway.
Or say no to doing anything structural to the kitchen.

PInkyStarfish · 04/01/2026 15:54

When you give someone an inch in these kind of circumstances, they usually take more, a lot more.

Your mother is leaving herself wide open to a whole load of problems.

I’ve been a landlord and once the tenants start wanting to change things to their taste it’s a slippery slope to their doing something you don’t want or causing problems if you say no.

I would not allow them to change kitchen doors.

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 04/01/2026 15:50

Thanks everyone. I absolutely take the point about it being my mother's business and not mine. But that doesn't mean I'm not concerned about it.

She now lives 200 miles from the property so it's not easy for her to go and have a look/f2f discussion with the tenants.

My worry is that, if she allows them to do this and they do a dreadful job, does she have any redress?

She isn't planning on needing the house in the near future but who knows? If her partner dies, she will have to move out of his home as it will go to his children. If she needs a care home then she would need to sell to fund that. Hopefully those scenarios are a long way off/ might never happen, but on the other hand she and her partner are in their mid 80s.

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Coconutter24 · 04/01/2026 12:35

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 04/01/2026 11:44

Good question! And one I'm asking myself. But she raised it and told me that's what she had agreed to, but then seemed to be doubting whether she should have done.

Then I would direct her to the letting agents and any concerns she has or the best way of going about it or any risks involved they should be able to go through it with her

Velvian · 04/01/2026 12:32

The house is very likely to need to be sold at any point in the next decade. It could be next week, it could be 10 years. The tenants are taking a huge gamble investing a significant sum of money in a house they may have to move out of in a matter of months.

Changing the doors is unlikely to add significant value to the property, so I would make sure that they are not expecting their costs to be reimbursed on sale.

If they have funds to do this, why are they not putting it into a house deposit pot where they can change doors to their hearts content?

FeistyFrankie · 04/01/2026 12:12

You can get replacement kitchen cabinet doors quite easily and cheaply, made to measure and with good quality wood. My concern would be, what will happen to the existing cupboard doors, will they be thrown away? I'm assuming the tenants will leave the new cupboard doors on the cabinets if they were to move out.

Perhaps your mother (or yourself) could pop round and just do a quick inspection of the works they're planning on doing, to make sure it's all done properly.

They sound like reasonable requests and, honestly, if they were planning on moving out soon they wouldn't be bothering to update the place, would they? I'd say, if your mum is happy about it all, there's no reason to stress. Sounds fine to me.

MadinMarch · 04/01/2026 12:05

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/01/2026 11:33

I think you should tell your mum to say no. She’s still thinking like this is a home not a business- which is why small landlords can be tricky. If she doesn’t feel the kitchen needs replacing, she should only agree to this if she’s happy that in 6 months time they move out and she finds it’s ruined the kitchen and she has to pay for an entirely new kitchen to be put in before new tenants can be found- she needs to budget for a completely new kitchen and 2 or more months with no rent while work is done.

Tell her to start thinking like a landlord. Landlords replace kitchens. Not tenants.

This.
The tenants rented it as it is and it should stay as it is. Tenants diy can be a nightmare if the work isn't up to scratch and as others have also said, they may want to take new doors etc with them.

DogAnxiety · 04/01/2026 11:48

I don’t think them wanting to spaff money on kitchen doors suggests good long term tenant necessarily. Not unless money is no object to these tenants. It’s not very financially sensible to pay to replace doors if you could be evicted within 18 months to 2 years. Not unless one of the tenants is a kitchen fitter! I can understand why they might want to do that, but to me it sort of suggests a lack of realism about renting and the landlord/ tenant relationship and respective responsibilities.

Anyway, maybe show your mum this thread. She might react better to strangers’ views than to yours.

GlasgowGal2014 · 04/01/2026 11:48

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 04/01/2026 11:22

There are so many doors (maybe 18?) that I can't think where they could go in the property. It's not like you can just prop them up in the corner.

If there is nowhere to store them then my advice to your Mum would be to refuse to let the tenants replace them. She doesn't want to be in a situation where they move out and she has to pay to replace the doors again because they've ditched hers and have taken theirs with them (which they would be within their rights to do). Your Mum may wish to consider replacing the doors herself or getting a professional to paint the existing ones if the kitchen is dated and this type of update could help retain good tenants. She should be able to get tax relief on that spend too.

It's tempting to be accommodating to tenants who want to replace the landlords stuff with their own, but your Mum has no idea how long they will stay for so she needs to make sure that her asset isn't degraded by the changes. Replacing a glass wall for a solid one is fine, because that work will stay and hopefully improves safety/privacy/energy efficiency. Removing things like cupboard doors, beds, sofas etc so the tenant can bring their own is more challenging because your Mum will be faced with the cost of replacing them when that tenant moves out. I've been asked in the past to remove sofas or beds before, and the options are dispose of them and replace for new tenants in future, or pay to to store them, so I've always said no.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/01/2026 11:47

@PineappleMelon- the landlord is in their 80s, at the risk of being horribly morbid about the OPs mother, how long term will this be ? The house may well have to be sold to pay for care or if the mother passes. They saw the property when they rented it and they’ve asked for multiple changes.

OP say no, if they don’t like it they can find another property but I would worry about them spending a lot of their own money on your mother’s house and then it being difficult if you need to sell the property in the future. Particularly if they take out a solid but dated kitchen and put in something that’s cheap and a bit shit.

Tell your mum to say no. If she wouldn’t pay to put in a new kitchen herself, then it doesn’t need doing.

Rictasmorticia · 04/01/2026 11:46

I understand why you are concerned and I am sure that you have your mum’s interest at heart. That said, I am the same age and perfectly capable of making those sort of decisions. I expect that your mum has good tenants because she obviously cares about them. Many friends of mine in their 90s are living independently. Like me they appreciate the concerns of their family, but prefer not to be ‘managed’

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 04/01/2026 11:44

Coconutter24 · 04/01/2026 11:25

If your mum is capable and competent why are you wanting to get involved?

Good question! And one I'm asking myself. But she raised it and told me that's what she had agreed to, but then seemed to be doubting whether she should have done.

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AnnaQuayInTheUk · 04/01/2026 11:43

I have every sympathy with tenants @PineappleMelon - I've been a tenant in the past and both our sons are currently in rental properties. It just feels like this is crossing some sort of line.

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PineappleMelon · 04/01/2026 11:37

I have sympathy for the tenants. It’s really hard renting and not being able to feel like your home is your home. They’re willing to spend their own money on improving where they live, I think it shows they’re going to be long term tenants. This is surely a good thing?

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/01/2026 11:33

I think you should tell your mum to say no. She’s still thinking like this is a home not a business- which is why small landlords can be tricky. If she doesn’t feel the kitchen needs replacing, she should only agree to this if she’s happy that in 6 months time they move out and she finds it’s ruined the kitchen and she has to pay for an entirely new kitchen to be put in before new tenants can be found- she needs to budget for a completely new kitchen and 2 or more months with no rent while work is done.

Tell her to start thinking like a landlord. Landlords replace kitchens. Not tenants.

jeaux90 · 04/01/2026 11:32

Yes I think she is. Maybe she should have offered to paint the kitchen cabinet doors if they are very dated. I would not allow a tenant to change anything material.

Coconutter24 · 04/01/2026 11:25

If your mum is capable and competent why are you wanting to get involved?

YourFairCyanReader · 04/01/2026 11:23

I don't understand why you are even thinking about getting involved.

Capable adult manages her own let property. None of your business

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 04/01/2026 11:22

There are so many doors (maybe 18?) that I can't think where they could go in the property. It's not like you can just prop them up in the corner.

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