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MIL not putting in effort and then complaining she feels “left out”.

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Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:10

We have two small dc, 3 and 7mo. From the start my mum has been by my side helping with the kids, having older dc over night when I went into labour, offering to take kids at the weekend to give us a break, and LOVES time with the grandchildren. She would be here all the time if she could. She calls every day, sometimes multiple times a day, to talk to dc. I’m so grateful, her attention to the kids warms my heart. Both dc adore her.

MIL isn’t really involved. She sends Christmas and birthday presents. She has met younger dc twice and sees older dc maybe 2-3 times a year. But we always have to go to her, she won’t come to us because she “doesn’t like driving” but will drive the same distance to her sister’s every week. Even just after younger dc was born, she asked us to come to her to meet dc. She doesn’t call. She never asks after the kids.

Without thinking, I Made a soppy post on instagram about how much I appreciate my mum and everything she’s done for me in 2025. My mum has instagram and i wanted to make a public acknowledgment of everything she’s done (I also bought her a very thoughtful Christmas gift and am planning something big for Mother’s Day). But MIL saw it (she doesn’t have instagram but her adult dd does so I’m guessing adult dd showed her). She has sent dh a long and aggressive message about how she feels left out and about how unfair it is and how unappreciated she feels. She said she feels like she “can’t compete”. She. Is. Not. Involved. She chooses to not make an effort. I said to dh, even if she just called once a week to speak to the kids, that would be amazing but she just doesn’t. And now she’s annoyed at not receiving acknowledgement for something she doesn’t do. Now, I appreciate I probably shouldn’t have made the instagram post (maybe) but honestly, I didn’t even think about her when making it. Again, because she includes herself so little in our lives that how it reflected on her didn’t even cross my mind.

AIBU for acknowledging my very involved mother and not including MIL in a token way? I appreciate it would have cost nothing to just throw in a token “and we are grateful for MIL too” as well, even if it wasn’t true.

YANBU, someone who doesn’t make an effort cannot expect to be thanked for being involved.

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Handeyethingyowl · 04/01/2026 10:35

IMO your DH is at fault and should make more effort with his mum. Perhaps then she would feel less upset by you appreciating your own mum. I personally think your DH should just give his mum a call not reply to her message (or ignore it, which you should not let him do as this would let him off the hook responsibility-wise). Come to some arrangement which makes both parties feel less sidelined. (If it were me, I’d have happily visited a grandparent an hour’s drive away as well as have a friends’ birthday party).

Put yourself in her shoes. If you had a best friend who had another best friend who lived next door and was seemingly with them 24/7 wouldn’t you feel like you were third fiddle? It would probably make you retreat and like you ‘couldn’t compete’ but you’d still feel upset.

As an aside I think a gushing social media post always runs the risk of making someone feel bad whether they tell you about it or not. Not everyone is lucky to have parental support for example.

Schoolchoicesucks · 04/01/2026 10:35

When your DH responds, I would suggest it's something like "Cheddar's message was just an appreciation message to her mum and really wasn't implying anything at all about you. Cheddar's mum does a lot for us, which we both appreciate. It isn't a competition but we're sorry if that makes you feel pushed out, it's not at all our intention and we would all love for you to see more of us and the kids if that's what you want. What changes do you have in mind for how you could be more involved, mum?"

Rosecoffeecup · 04/01/2026 10:32

Sounds like there wouldn't be much time for your MIL to be involved anyway, given your mother seems to be there or on the phone to them all day...

BillyBites · 04/01/2026 10:30

@ittakes2Of course she’s more familiar with the drive to her sister’s. She does it every week. If she made the effort to visit her son and dip, she’d soon get familiar with that route too.

FollowSpot · 04/01/2026 10:28

Maybe DH could reply “Mum, it isn’t a competition, and you are always welcome to visit us and your grandchildren. In fact we often feel sad that you don’t accept our
invitations more often. You are also free to call and chat to Dc1 whenever you like! HNY xx “

Dietday · 04/01/2026 10:27

This is all on her. She isn't paticularly interested and resents that your mother is.
A few years ago my friend got pissed off with her completely disinterested mother wanting photos of the children at key moments to put up for show.
She unexpectedly ran into relatives that mentioned how devoted her parents were to her and the children, and she was confused and said we don't see them from one end of the month to the other.
Her mother had bizarrely fed them some fairytale of both parents being at her beck and call.
Things couldn't be further from the truth.
Her mother was very annoyed with her for "betraying" her parents.
Her parents had zero real interest in her as a child or her siblings, so she realised it was foolish of her to expect them to be suddenly interested in grandchildren.
She accepted it and matched their energy.
Fortunately her in laws were amazing and the children loved them, so she got on with it.

NewYearSameYou · 04/01/2026 10:26

SomewhatAnnoyed · 04/01/2026 07:36

I agree.

It’s easy for mothers of fathers to feel pushed out as usually the mums of young kids concentrate on their own family. She may not feel comfortable chatting away to a 3 and 7 month old on the phone, especially if she doesn’t see them all the time like your mum. I’m guessing your mum lives much closer to you so it’s been a lot easier to develop a closer relationship with them. Also the criticism on her driving - are they two exact same journeys, or is the one to her sister easier or one she has traveled for years so she is far more comfortable driving it as she gets older? Did you intentionally make your family home close to your parents? If so why was that your priority and why did his mum lose out?

You sound really hash OP. Your mum won’t be around forever and neither will your MIL. Your OH may feel pissed off that his family are being sidelined when they’re gone if you’re welcoming and prioritising yours and criticising his.

He obv needs to take responsibility too but if you’re the dominant force and teaming up with your mum it’s going to be harder for him to enable his mum to have equal time with your children. It’s not her fault her son won’t fight her corner and she has every right to see them as your own mother. If they both lives next door to you with the same amount of spare time that’s fair enough, but I can quite see how she’d feel more awkward and not want to push things, and that’s not going to change unless you and her son make more of an effort. You can’t complain that she’s annoying for feeling sad if you’re not more understanding of her situation.

This doesn't align with anything the OP has said. You're projecting.

DoubtfulCat · 04/01/2026 10:23

MIL has another son with a child, but MIL is NC with this son entirely and MIL has never met and refuses to acknowledge the child that is technically my dcs cousin. Dh’s brother and mother fell out because MIL didn’t like BILs girlfriend (mother of the other grandchild).

This does make her sound quite dogmatic or judgmental- that’s a super harsh reaction for a mother, to cut her child off.

Tourmalines · 04/01/2026 10:23

Hedgehogbrown · 04/01/2026 09:28

Shouldn't those questions be aimed at her husband? Considering it's his Mother.

That’s childish . My DIl is the one that organises most get togethers with me , it’s way more practical and she is the one that mainly organises the social calendar , I’m glad she doesn’t think she has to get my son to tell me .

TwotierChristmas · 04/01/2026 10:22

@Gretchener yes my disabled dp drove for three hours once to help us out and mil cancelling us for hard to move hair appts ( didn't work )

Gretchener · 04/01/2026 10:19

YANBU OP.

She's just jealous. She has FOMO. She wants to wear the crown of the 'bestest grandparent' but can't actually be arsed to do the actual grandparenting bit, proven by her words and actions. Often this involves more than the grandchildren being delivered to you so that you can take photos and brag about being a proud GP.

Your MIL clearly has issues with her DILs judging by what you have said about her other son and his GF.

Yes, often a daughter is going to remain closer to her mum than her MIL and ipso facto, the DC. My DM however, despite working full-time, struggling financially, manages to maintain an amazing relationship with me and my brothers, their wives and all her GC. Ultimately she helps out when she can (and VERY often when she really can't but still does!!) and makes a huge effort with all her GC. They all absolutely adore her.

With my ILs on the other hand, we have just had jealousy, indifference and uselessness. They have NEVER helped out, even in our direst needs. Never call. No interest in the GC and what A level results they got etc. No surprise really that our now adult DC are not interested in them.

You reap what you sow.

HazelMember · 04/01/2026 10:13

Is there a FIL?

5128gap · 04/01/2026 10:13

Mm. A difficult one, as its hard to see where your MiL would fit into your set up, because your mum is (in the nicest possible way) taking up so much space in your family. Realistically you don't want two of them calling multiple times a day, having your DC all the time and never off your doorstep, do you? So MiL can never be anything but second fiddle.
She has the role of second place grandma, which can be a hurtful place for many paternal grandparents, and is performing it her way. Which isnt enough for you, but that's unfortunate because that's where you are.
Obviously she shouldn't be aggressive about what you post about your mum, as its her sons job to appreciate her.

Dozer · 04/01/2026 10:13

Perhaps it’s a covid legacy thing for some of us @glitterpaperchain

As a DC I was often encouraged to speak to extended family by telephone and disliked it.

My DC were much older than 3 when we encouraged them to participate in video calls with grandparents (living far away), and this accelerated during covid lockdowns. They didn’t seem to mind it but as teens rarely choose to communicate with GPs that way - it was much more for the GPs, which is fair enough.

TwotierChristmas · 04/01/2026 10:12

@Frogbear and the third way, they want to be too Involved and not to help parents but to take over and do it right becsuee they are better

Frogbear · 04/01/2026 10:09

C8H10N4O2 · 04/01/2026 10:06

So if I want a close relationship with my DGC I must be prepared to move house, give up work and provide free childcare?

Could be tricky as they don’t even all live in the same country and I’m still working.

My in laws have a close relationship with my young DC - they live on the other side of the country!

You don’t have to live 10 mins down the road to keep a relationship going.

Dietday · 04/01/2026 10:08

Your husband can make one if he likes.
Stop travelling to her if she refuses to drive.
I cannot be dealing with this selective driving.
My in laws were like this, even though I like them and when it no longer suited me to travel to them, I stopped.
Road runs both ways.
You are so blessed with your mother, well done for acknowledging her.

TwotierChristmas · 04/01/2026 10:07

@Conversationalcheddar can you quote that back to her re the delightful car comment !!
Maybe say what your own mum did about car seats to help her understand the differences

glitterpaperchain · 04/01/2026 10:07

Sorry this is slightly off topic but I'm surprised at all the people saying calling a 3yo is silly. I have a 3yo and 3 out of 4 grandparents (husband and mine both have separated parents) live far away and they regularly call her. She chats to them, after Christmas she showed them some of her new toys, with my dad she even plays games with him. Video call not just the phone but still. I think it's a lovely way to spend time together so I'm surprised to see so many people against it!

C8H10N4O2 · 04/01/2026 10:06

Frogbear · 04/01/2026 10:04

And this is the perfect example why some grandparents are not heavily involved.

When you have one set who want to be a part of their grandchildren’s lives and help the parents, and another set who complain about unpaid childcare, it’s not surprising to see why one set of grandparents become closer and more involved.

YANBU OP. Your parents are involved because they want to be. Your MIL doesn’t want to be and that’s fine, but she can’t then complain she’s not put on the same pedestal.

So if I want a close relationship with my DGC I must be prepared to move house, give up work and provide free childcare?

Could be tricky as they don’t even all live in the same country and I’m still working.

Frogbear · 04/01/2026 10:04

RosesAndHellebores · 04/01/2026 08:07

To be fair, I'm amazed your mother does so much and you let her or need it to that extent. I wonder of your MIL thinks you are taking advantage of her.

As a MIL, I'd have found your comment about making sure my new car was big enough for car seats assumptive and inappropriate. I'd like to hear from your MIL and I'm afraid as a woman in my mid 60s, who still works a professional job, I won't be raising my DIL's or DD's DC.

Help in emergencies, yes, giving my dd or DIL a break at weekends, absolutely not. Being a form of unpaid childcare, absolutely not.

How far is this drive? Is she still happy driving at night? Us oldies do develop issues with night vision which is worse on unfamiliar roads.

And this is the perfect example why some grandparents are not heavily involved.

When you have one set who want to be a part of their grandchildren’s lives and help the parents, and another set who complain about unpaid childcare, it’s not surprising to see why one set of grandparents become closer and more involved.

YANBU OP. Your parents are involved because they want to be. Your MIL doesn’t want to be and that’s fine, but she can’t then complain she’s not put on the same pedestal.

Balloonhearts · 04/01/2026 10:03

I just wouldn't reply. Sometimes silence says it all.

C8H10N4O2 · 04/01/2026 10:02

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 09:46

Yes, totally understood what you meant :) just frustrated that MIL has taken “I love my mum” to mean “and not my MIL”.

You have said a lot about your parents moving to be on your doorstep/there daily vs your MiL’s reserve about driving to you.

How often do you visit her or ask to visit her (since the two hour round trip requires arrangements, ten minutes from your front door does not need such pre arrangement)?

Dozer · 04/01/2026 10:00

DH’s relationship with his mum and supporting her building relationships with her grandchildren are for him to manage. He seems to have made sensible choices so far. As you say, she hasn’t made much effort. YANBU to continue in the same ways.

YABU for gushing on social media and for suggesting that MIL telephone or video call a 3 year old to keep in touch, which seems pointless.

Whoever of DH’s siblings showed MIL your social media post is U!

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 10:00

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 04/01/2026 09:16

I wonder what your MILs MIL was like when MIL had babies. I wonder if she did all the running she expects you to. She certainly hasn't considered the cultural differences so may feel like she's on the back foot. She sounds a bit like my mum who sometimes just doesn't make the connection between behaviour and consequences. I'm not trying to make excuses for her, but try and understand where she's coming from.

Yes, me and DH had this conversation this morning. MIL’s own parents had her 3 dcs (including dh) overnight twice a week to help PIL. They went to their maternal grandmothers house every day after school during primary years so MIL could work. But MIL’s MIL was very similar to her, very distant. Dh doesn’t even know his father’s parents, despite them both still being alive (though they’d be in their early 90s now). I think she must have forgotten all this. MIL has another son with a child, but MIL is NC with this son entirely and MIL has never met and refuses to acknowledge the child that is technically my dcs cousin. Dh’s brother and mother fell out because MIL didn’t like BILs girlfriend (mother of the other grandchild). This all makes MIL sound bad but she is a lovely woman in person, we get along just fine.

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