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MIL not putting in effort and then complaining she feels “left out”.

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Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:10

We have two small dc, 3 and 7mo. From the start my mum has been by my side helping with the kids, having older dc over night when I went into labour, offering to take kids at the weekend to give us a break, and LOVES time with the grandchildren. She would be here all the time if she could. She calls every day, sometimes multiple times a day, to talk to dc. I’m so grateful, her attention to the kids warms my heart. Both dc adore her.

MIL isn’t really involved. She sends Christmas and birthday presents. She has met younger dc twice and sees older dc maybe 2-3 times a year. But we always have to go to her, she won’t come to us because she “doesn’t like driving” but will drive the same distance to her sister’s every week. Even just after younger dc was born, she asked us to come to her to meet dc. She doesn’t call. She never asks after the kids.

Without thinking, I Made a soppy post on instagram about how much I appreciate my mum and everything she’s done for me in 2025. My mum has instagram and i wanted to make a public acknowledgment of everything she’s done (I also bought her a very thoughtful Christmas gift and am planning something big for Mother’s Day). But MIL saw it (she doesn’t have instagram but her adult dd does so I’m guessing adult dd showed her). She has sent dh a long and aggressive message about how she feels left out and about how unfair it is and how unappreciated she feels. She said she feels like she “can’t compete”. She. Is. Not. Involved. She chooses to not make an effort. I said to dh, even if she just called once a week to speak to the kids, that would be amazing but she just doesn’t. And now she’s annoyed at not receiving acknowledgement for something she doesn’t do. Now, I appreciate I probably shouldn’t have made the instagram post (maybe) but honestly, I didn’t even think about her when making it. Again, because she includes herself so little in our lives that how it reflected on her didn’t even cross my mind.

AIBU for acknowledging my very involved mother and not including MIL in a token way? I appreciate it would have cost nothing to just throw in a token “and we are grateful for MIL too” as well, even if it wasn’t true.

YANBU, someone who doesn’t make an effort cannot expect to be thanked for being involved.

OP posts:
SixtySomething · 04/01/2026 17:37

Theretogreet · 04/01/2026 12:33

It isn't about not reading the OP’s post, it is about the OP understanding why the relationship is failing and asking more.

The answers from her MIL provide a next step.

For instance, the answer to why MIL doesn't visit could range from ‘I feel like an outsider because your mum is always there’, to ‘I can't afford the fuel’ (I'm making those answers up).
The next step though, would also range from arranging times when mother isn't present to meeting half way/visiting her more to support the financials.

Asking more helps the OP and her DH to understand and address.

(and if the conversation results in ‘I am not that interested in my grandchildren’ then the OP can move on with a clear next step too)

Excellent post!
This nails it.

ChristmasLeftovers · 04/01/2026 17:18

Didimum · 04/01/2026 15:55

The way OP conducts her relationships with her own family members is none of the MIL’s concern. It’s OP husband’s and the MIL’s job to cultivate a positive dynamic with each other.

Hard disagree.

ChristmasLeftovers · 04/01/2026 17:17

SwayzeM · 04/01/2026 15:32

I agree you need to make an effort as a grandparents, and you reap what you sow in many cases. She sounds like she wants the status without the effort. But I'm wondering if she feels almost like there's no point coming to your house because your dm would already be there. If your dm is in the house so often does she feel she would be sidelined if she visited. I realise she should have tried to build a relationship and it seems she wants a minimal relationship, but could she feel inadequate so has backed off. It sounds like your mum virtually lives at your house, and this has been the case since day one almost. Faced with that she may feel she can't compete and has backed off defensively, because even average contact by a gm would seem very low by comparison.

I completely agree.

I’d love to hear the MIL’s side of the story.

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/01/2026 17:04

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:26

He hasn’t yet. We were both so shocked by her message we agreed to wait until we are less emotional about it, so we can reply more calmly. Dh is very much of the opinion she’s just fishing for drama and doesn’t want to engage with it. He will reply, but we need to think about how we can respond without inflaming the situation.

"She has sent dh a long and aggressive message about how she feels left out and about how unfair it is and how unappreciated she feels. She said she feels like she “can’t compete”."

I think you should concentrate on being truthful, rather than thinking "about how we can respond without inflaming the situation". Because it does not sound to me as if anything you can say will soothe her - she has decided to be offended, and nothing you' can say is going to change that. So, with that in mind - better to be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

Consider saying that she is not being left out, she is self-excluding from the lives of her grandchildren. That she has chosen and continues to choose not to drive to your home and that you can see that it's not the driving itself since she drives to her sister's - therefore making plain to you both that the problem is driving to Son/DIL/DGC. And yes, include that if she feels unappreciated, you would like to know what it is that she does for you that she feels merits appreciation because you're at a loss for that.

Don't allow her to berate you, when she is the author of her own fate. Turn it right back onto her.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 04/01/2026 16:34

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 10:00

Yes, me and DH had this conversation this morning. MIL’s own parents had her 3 dcs (including dh) overnight twice a week to help PIL. They went to their maternal grandmothers house every day after school during primary years so MIL could work. But MIL’s MIL was very similar to her, very distant. Dh doesn’t even know his father’s parents, despite them both still being alive (though they’d be in their early 90s now). I think she must have forgotten all this. MIL has another son with a child, but MIL is NC with this son entirely and MIL has never met and refuses to acknowledge the child that is technically my dcs cousin. Dh’s brother and mother fell out because MIL didn’t like BILs girlfriend (mother of the other grandchild). This all makes MIL sound bad but she is a lovely woman in person, we get along just fine.

Does your dh have a relationship with his niece/ nephew and half brother?

HangrySeal · 04/01/2026 16:30

Your MIL sounds like mine, no effort but likes to gripe she's left out. I agree with what another poster said, reply aww to her rant and leave her to it.

As we say in Texas, some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope!

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2026 16:23

Hufflemuff · 04/01/2026 15:56

OP already says she does this distance of drive to go and see her sister all the time.

Depends on the similarity or not of the routes

Potteryclass1 · 04/01/2026 16:19

Ignore her. You can’t thank someone for something they haven’t done.
the wonan is emotionally unavailable to your kids. She’s selfish with her time.
She different to your mum and she just needs to accept that. End of.
do not feel bad about it and do not give her any of the drama and attention she is fishing for.
if you do, it will be one a never-ending cycle of how she gets recognition.

(my MIL is similar). She now just does her own posts declaring how wonderful she is as a grandmother despite not bothering with her grandchildren 🤣

phoenixrosehere · 04/01/2026 16:18

Daygloboo · 04/01/2026 15:45

Well there must be some reason. Maybe she has undisclosed medical issues and doesnt like to be away from home for too long. Maybe she's a secret drinker. Who knows. It's obviously something. If she drives other places but not there then there must be something anout hoing THERE she doesnt like.

Or she is one of those parents that expect their adult children to chase after them and accommodate them above their own wife and children.

She has called her own son twice while he has called her numerous times. She has been invited to their home and doesn’t come, or will even come half way if I recall one of OP’s post correctly. If she was as interested in her son and grandchildren and wanted to be involved as she says her actions would show that.

CherryBlossom321 · 04/01/2026 15:59

I must be in a serious minority - my MIL lives 30 miles away, can’t drive, but has managed to develop a brilliant relationship with my children regardless. My own parents live 2 miles down the road, both drive, and have never been interested - turned down invites to parties, for lunch, to join us for holidays. After years of trying, we gave up. They’re now apparently very confused that my teenage children don’t know them 🤷‍♀️ YANBU, OP.

Hufflemuff · 04/01/2026 15:56

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2026 11:10

I wouldn't have been able to do that drive when I was the GM's age.

Not everyone can

OP already says she does this distance of drive to go and see her sister all the time.

Didimum · 04/01/2026 15:55

ChristmasLeftovers · 04/01/2026 14:43

I agree.

I’m going against the grain, but your relationship with your mum sounds very intense and I imagine the MIL feels it quite difficult to infiltrate the dynamic.

The way OP conducts her relationships with her own family members is none of the MIL’s concern. It’s OP husband’s and the MIL’s job to cultivate a positive dynamic with each other.

Daygloboo · 04/01/2026 15:45

Well there must be some reason. Maybe she has undisclosed medical issues and doesnt like to be away from home for too long. Maybe she's a secret drinker. Who knows. It's obviously something. If she drives other places but not there then there must be something anout hoing THERE she doesnt like.

phoenixrosehere · 04/01/2026 15:39

Daygloboo · 04/01/2026 15:33

Well, in that case the MIl obviously has some issue with DIL. We can never know what that is. Maybe the MOL is a selfish, unfriendly person who wants everything her own way, or maybe the OP was someone she didnt take to when threy first met, or maybe it's a bit of difficulty on both sides. We'll never know.

OP wrote:

Yes, me and DH had this conversation this morning. MIL’s own parents had her 3 dcs (including dh) overnight twice a week to help PIL. They went to their maternal grandmothers house every day after school during primary years so MIL could work. But MIL’s MIL was very similar to her, very distant. Dh doesn’t even know his father’s parents, despite them both still being alive (though they’d be in their early 90s now). I think she must have forgotten all this. MIL has another son with a child, but MIL is NC with this son entirely and MIL has never met and refuses to acknowledge the child that is technically my dcs cousin. Dh’s brother and mother fell out because MIL didn’t like BILs girlfriend (mother of the other grandchild). This all makes MIL sound bad but she is a lovely woman in person, we get along just fine.

Daygloboo · 04/01/2026 15:33

goody2shooz · 04/01/2026 14:26

Did you miss the bit where mil wanted the op to drive to her house so she could meet the baby - within a week of op giving birth? And that mil can’t drive an hour to op’s house, or meet halfway, but drives the same distance every week to visit her sister?

Well, in that case the MIl obviously has some issue with DIL. We can never know what that is. Maybe the MOL is a selfish, unfriendly person who wants everything her own way, or maybe the OP was someone she didnt take to when threy first met, or maybe it's a bit of difficulty on both sides. We'll never know.

SwayzeM · 04/01/2026 15:32

I agree you need to make an effort as a grandparents, and you reap what you sow in many cases. She sounds like she wants the status without the effort. But I'm wondering if she feels almost like there's no point coming to your house because your dm would already be there. If your dm is in the house so often does she feel she would be sidelined if she visited. I realise she should have tried to build a relationship and it seems she wants a minimal relationship, but could she feel inadequate so has backed off. It sounds like your mum virtually lives at your house, and this has been the case since day one almost. Faced with that she may feel she can't compete and has backed off defensively, because even average contact by a gm would seem very low by comparison.

phoenixrosehere · 04/01/2026 15:21

ChristmasLeftovers · 04/01/2026 14:43

I agree.

I’m going against the grain, but your relationship with your mum sounds very intense and I imagine the MIL feels it quite difficult to infiltrate the dynamic.

OP explained in her post that it is normal in their culture for grandparents to have this much involvement.

My own in-laws have the same level of involvement with their daughter and grandchildren and they’re British.

Saying that, MIL could meet them half way instead of expecting them to chase after her from what I read from OP’s posts.

DoubtfulCat · 04/01/2026 15:08

MyEdgyOliveTraybake · 04/01/2026 13:51

”i wanted to make a public acknowledgment of everything she’s done”

This is a bit odd wanting to do this. Presumably you can see why MIL is offended? Looks bad compared to your mum. Presumably there’s more to the story.

Probably best to save the public acknowledgements and OTT instagram posts. Lesson learned, I suppose.

Thanking or praising one person for something they’ve done isn’t a suggestion that anyone else doesn’t deserve thanks or praise and I think it’s odd to jump to that conclusion. Even more so if it’s evident that the other person has really gone above and beyond the call of duty for the person who’s thanking them.

outerspacepotato · 04/01/2026 14:54

She gets what she gives.

Your mom is nearby and puts in a ton of time and effort with your kids.

Your MIL won't drive to yours when you have 2 kids, one very young. You've tried to involve her by sending pics with no response. You said she snapped at you when you made a remark about car seats in her new car and flat out told you she:s done raising kids and won't be raising yours. She's keeping a deliberate distance from yours because she doesn't want to do what your mom is doing. But she expects pats on the back on SM.

Her expectations are doomed to disappointment unless she actually, you know, does something.

Drop the rope and let your husband deal with her.

Your mom sounds lovely.

FunMustard · 04/01/2026 14:44

Honestly, I'd just shrug and let DH deal with it. It's his mum.

ChristmasLeftovers · 04/01/2026 14:43

MyEdgyOliveTraybake · 04/01/2026 13:51

”i wanted to make a public acknowledgment of everything she’s done”

This is a bit odd wanting to do this. Presumably you can see why MIL is offended? Looks bad compared to your mum. Presumably there’s more to the story.

Probably best to save the public acknowledgements and OTT instagram posts. Lesson learned, I suppose.

I agree.

I’m going against the grain, but your relationship with your mum sounds very intense and I imagine the MIL feels it quite difficult to infiltrate the dynamic.

goody2shooz · 04/01/2026 14:26

Daygloboo · 04/01/2026 13:51

Maybe she felt excluded from the beginning and didnt feel particularly welcome so noe feels she cant suddenly become involved.

Did you miss the bit where mil wanted the op to drive to her house so she could meet the baby - within a week of op giving birth? And that mil can’t drive an hour to op’s house, or meet halfway, but drives the same distance every week to visit her sister?

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Theretogreet · 04/01/2026 13:59

hypnovic · 04/01/2026 13:55

Please ignore all the entitled MIL/boy muns here, you've done nothing wrong unless you have made it hard for her to get involved this is her doing, if driving is an issue she can call her son and say I'd love to see them can we meet can you drive us ect, she can text and ask how they are ect it's your husbands responsibility to involve her or her own responsibility. Not yours

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What is an entitled MIL/ boy mum?

hypnovic · 04/01/2026 13:55

Please ignore all the entitled MIL/boy muns here, you've done nothing wrong unless you have made it hard for her to get involved this is her doing, if driving is an issue she can call her son and say I'd love to see them can we meet can you drive us ect, she can text and ask how they are ect it's your husbands responsibility to involve her or her own responsibility. Not yours