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MIL not putting in effort and then complaining she feels “left out”.

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Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:10

We have two small dc, 3 and 7mo. From the start my mum has been by my side helping with the kids, having older dc over night when I went into labour, offering to take kids at the weekend to give us a break, and LOVES time with the grandchildren. She would be here all the time if she could. She calls every day, sometimes multiple times a day, to talk to dc. I’m so grateful, her attention to the kids warms my heart. Both dc adore her.

MIL isn’t really involved. She sends Christmas and birthday presents. She has met younger dc twice and sees older dc maybe 2-3 times a year. But we always have to go to her, she won’t come to us because she “doesn’t like driving” but will drive the same distance to her sister’s every week. Even just after younger dc was born, she asked us to come to her to meet dc. She doesn’t call. She never asks after the kids.

Without thinking, I Made a soppy post on instagram about how much I appreciate my mum and everything she’s done for me in 2025. My mum has instagram and i wanted to make a public acknowledgment of everything she’s done (I also bought her a very thoughtful Christmas gift and am planning something big for Mother’s Day). But MIL saw it (she doesn’t have instagram but her adult dd does so I’m guessing adult dd showed her). She has sent dh a long and aggressive message about how she feels left out and about how unfair it is and how unappreciated she feels. She said she feels like she “can’t compete”. She. Is. Not. Involved. She chooses to not make an effort. I said to dh, even if she just called once a week to speak to the kids, that would be amazing but she just doesn’t. And now she’s annoyed at not receiving acknowledgement for something she doesn’t do. Now, I appreciate I probably shouldn’t have made the instagram post (maybe) but honestly, I didn’t even think about her when making it. Again, because she includes herself so little in our lives that how it reflected on her didn’t even cross my mind.

AIBU for acknowledging my very involved mother and not including MIL in a token way? I appreciate it would have cost nothing to just throw in a token “and we are grateful for MIL too” as well, even if it wasn’t true.

YANBU, someone who doesn’t make an effort cannot expect to be thanked for being involved.

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nc43214321 · 04/01/2026 19:22

honestly after reading your responses, I just wouldn’t engage. She is 100% about her and everything has to be on her terms, there is nothing positive to take from this relationship.

Venusmoon · 04/01/2026 19:22

Does your DSiL have children and does MiL take an interest in them? It’s great you appreciate how much your mother does because it is a lot. But not all grandmothers are the same and, unless they are not very nice people, you can’t measure love in how much they see you or help you out. Some have lives that have moved on beyond raising young children and may not want to do it again. Not everyone is cut out for that.
Hopefully, as you’ve married her son, your MiL did a good job raising him.
It was passive aggressive to laud your mother’s hard work looking after your children and by default you. Your silence about your MIL speaks volumes.

MeridianB · 04/01/2026 19:19

She sounds sour and jealous and has really embarrassed herself with that nasty message,

I’d be inclined to ignore it but I get that DH needs to move things on so the ‘Of course we’d love you to see the children more - when can you come over?’ style reply is ideal.

Otherwise, ignore. She has chosen to seen her 7mo grandchild twice? And one of those occasions was when she insisted a newborn and postpartum mother was driven to her? This tells you everything you need to know about her priorities.

Lollylavender · 04/01/2026 19:12

Blablibladirladada · 04/01/2026 18:44

When I read these…and having a boy…I am always thinking oh gosh! I will be the “horrible MIL” one day to someone! That literally terrifies me :/

I can’t think of anyway she has done anything to you…it isn’t your mom so she can’t compete. If you don’t warm up to her then your children won’t know that side of the family much. End of it.

I’m also terrified about having sons…

Op, do you have a boy? Have you thought about being a mother in law too one day?

Daftypants · 04/01/2026 19:07

Ok ..so you invite her to your home ?
How long is the drive and is it a tricky road to drive or navigate ?
I sort of understand the driving if she’s uncomfortable with that .
Could she get a train or bus to you , do you have room to have her stay a night or 2 ?
What I don’t understand is why she doesn’t maybe phone once a week .
Your own mum does sound like she does more than most other grandparents

Zerosleep · 04/01/2026 18:51

His mother, his problem. It’s not up to you to curb your IG posts or not express appreciation for a wonderful mum just because MIL is a twat. She has a choice as to whether she makes and effort and chooses not to, her problem. I wouldn’t give it a second thought, post all you like about your mum and leave DH to deal with MIL.

And if I were DH, I wouldn’t bother replying to the text. She sounds like she is fishing for drama. Replying just fuels the fire for people like that.

Didimum · 04/01/2026 18:50

ChristmasLeftovers · 04/01/2026 17:18

Hard disagree.

Saying why would usually be the most helpful.

RosesAndHellebores · 04/01/2026 18:48

Jane143 · 04/01/2026 18:10

That’s a pity as you are missing out on so much love and appreciation from your children and grandchildren

How interesting. Do you think grandparents are only worthy of love and appreciation if they provide free childcare? My children's grandparents didn't do that and the dc have excellent relationships with their remaining grandparents. In our world love isn't transactional.

When dh and I needed a break we paid a babysitter, when the dc were bigger, I had an au-pair. Our parents brought us up to be independent and to provide for ourselves and we respect them for it.

DH and I between us have spent 80 years working - the fruits of which our dc and grandchildren will enjoy. When we retire we want some freedom to travel a little more, to spend more time at our home in France, where DC are always welcome,

Pessismistic · 04/01/2026 18:47

Hi op I think your mil has made it clear she’s not interested in your kids unfortunately this does happen. I would not do anything except say your not involved in kids life where as your dm is so you just wanted to thank her because she does so much to help you as a family and you would be lost without this support. I also wouldn’t be in a rush to visit her either. She’s not offering any help and obviously doesn’t care about seeing her gc. Please don’t bow to her remarks she’s a selfish woman.

Sassylovesbooks · 04/01/2026 18:44

My FIL has little interest in his 5 grandchildren (1 of the grandchildren is by his eldest son and the other 4 are by his youngest son). He moved to Spain at one point, and all we heard is 'I miss my grandchildren' or 'I don't see my grandchildren'. My husband had to point out that he chose to move to Spain, so therefore he couldn't expect to have much of a relationship with them!!

We have visited and we call/Facetime regularly, whereas my BIL doesn't bother. He visits the UK, and spends most of his time with his wife visiting her family! His children are lucky to see him for 2 days, and his grandchildren might see him for a few hours. He makes little to no effort and now he's back living in the UK, nothing has changed! We visit when we can, and take our son but my BIL doesn't. His interest in his grandchildren is superficial.

It sounds as if your MIL might be similar. Likes to complain, she's missing out, but makes little to no effort to maintain contact or take any interest.

Blablibladirladada · 04/01/2026 18:44

When I read these…and having a boy…I am always thinking oh gosh! I will be the “horrible MIL” one day to someone! That literally terrifies me :/

I can’t think of anyway she has done anything to you…it isn’t your mom so she can’t compete. If you don’t warm up to her then your children won’t know that side of the family much. End of it.

PopcornKitten · 04/01/2026 18:32

I think your DM sounds lovely and really committed to your family. I don’t do social media posts but as your MIL isn’t on social media, it’s clearly not about her.
SIL sounds nasty- clearly stirring. What good is going to come of sharing that post? It’s just poor judgement or nastiness.
I suspect your MIL is jealous of the relationship you and your family have with your DM.
but she’s also not prepared to put in the effort. She’s the type to send birthday and Christmas money but not actually spend any time with the children.
as the kids grow up they will realise who was present. It’s sad but you can’t change the actions of other people. She needs to step up- she’s in control of that, no one else.

DeftTurtle · 04/01/2026 18:28

Feel the social media quote regarding this is apt.

”grandparents who choose not to be actively involved in their grandkids lives, do so because they didn't want to be parents
themselves. And the ones who are, those who go above and beyond, do so because they get to relive their love of parenting all over again”

scarymalary · 04/01/2026 18:27

No doubt you'd be moaning if MIL was popping round every day, poking her nose into your domestic situation, or wanting to talk to the kids all the time. It definitely sounds like one rule for mum's mum and quite another for poor old dad's mum. She can't do right for doing wrong. But hey, it's your business so you do you.

Nordiclaura007 · 04/01/2026 18:25

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:34

We do try to involve her but her lack of willingness to drive makes it very difficult. She didn’t come to older dc’s 3rd birthday because she didn’t want to drive and we held it locally so all of dc’s little friends could come. I have sent photos but she either doesn’t respond (she is in her 60s so I get phone usage is different and perhaps she can’t see that I can see that she’s received the messages). She has stated in the past that she’s “done raising (her) kids” and won’t raise mine. We do try. But life is also very hectic and to a certain degree, I will acknowledge that because of her level of standoffishness I have perhaps not kept up trying to keep her involved just because if you get enough resistance with these things it’s easier to stop trying than to continue and make your life more difficult. I guess I kind of assumed the feeling was mutual.

My dad is 91 and can use a smart phone with no problems and is computer literate. Dont make excuses for her.

Gwenhwyfar · 04/01/2026 18:24

Tourmalines · 04/01/2026 07:19

Do you invite her over? Do you send her photos ? What about the olders birthday, don’t you have a get together and invite her? Have you let her babysit ?

Did MiL's son do all these things? Why is it down to OP?

I haven't RTFT so I presume MiL is not very old, but her age should have been mentioned in the OP because you can't expect the same level of support from old people as from middle aged gps.

Dawnb19 · 04/01/2026 18:22

It's her loss. When she's older and needs yours and your children's help with everyday things then she can't complain if your not there. 🤷 We did everything for my grandparents and my partner did everything for he's granny because we were all close growing up. My MIL doesn't help me at all with my children so there's no way I'll help her if she needs it. I think this is because my partners granny did too much for her when he was growing up so she doesn't realise how hard having young children is. He's granny would even come around to help them get ready for school, cook dinners and tidy her house. So MIL doesn't understand how hard it is. I asked her to watch my 1 and 4 year old for 3/4 hours this afternoon so we could go to the cinema and she sat there making up excuses. (Today it's shes tired) It's literally the first time in 7 months I asked her to watch them. Unfortunately my my family live in England and I live in N.Ireland so I never get a day off.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 04/01/2026 18:16

No, your MIL is not a lovely woman.

Nothing you've said about her makes her sound lovely in any way - and that is NOT a criticism of you by the way. My MIL sounds a bit like yours, and we are NC with her, she's never met our children. It makes life a lot more peaceful without her, rather than having a bitter vindictive woman in our lives.

I'm not sure whether your DH should respond or not to be honest. What is there to even say? "Cheddar is allowed to praise her mum for all she does for us as a family. You have chosen not to be a hands-on grandmother."

Whatever you reply or don't reply with, MIL will see herself as the victim who has been left out or disregarded by her awful DIL. These types of woman always have to play the victim.

Jane143 · 04/01/2026 18:10

RosesAndHellebores · 04/01/2026 08:07

To be fair, I'm amazed your mother does so much and you let her or need it to that extent. I wonder of your MIL thinks you are taking advantage of her.

As a MIL, I'd have found your comment about making sure my new car was big enough for car seats assumptive and inappropriate. I'd like to hear from your MIL and I'm afraid as a woman in my mid 60s, who still works a professional job, I won't be raising my DIL's or DD's DC.

Help in emergencies, yes, giving my dd or DIL a break at weekends, absolutely not. Being a form of unpaid childcare, absolutely not.

How far is this drive? Is she still happy driving at night? Us oldies do develop issues with night vision which is worse on unfamiliar roads.

That’s a pity as you are missing out on so much love and appreciation from your children and grandchildren

Stanthedog15 · 04/01/2026 18:06

No don't apologize. Don't remove the post. Your mum is helping you plus her grandchildren. We should never feel wrong from saying Thankyou. As for your mum in law id say please read the post. This is a big thanyou for helping me so much.

If you want to come over take child 1 and 2 to the park for a hour or two..or help me with sorting out the bedrooms. Or hanging out the washing.
You having to travel to the home of the mum in law would piss me off.

I have grandchildren. My son and daughter in law have 2. For the 10 years they lived in Britain we had the children weekends. Holidays. We played with them and loved these 2 like a incredible amount. They emigrated in 2014. I missed them so much I had a breakdown.

My other son had a son who luckily spends lots of time with us. He's growing up fast. he's my world. I don't understand mother in law. She is missing out on the beauty off playing. Love. Fun. Kisses. Oh my what a loss xx

Loui80 · 04/01/2026 18:02

Also , beware of the SIL stirring the pot

Loui80 · 04/01/2026 18:00

She feels your mum is overshadowing her, maybe she feels she can’t get in to have any time with you and the kids. I think you need to ask her what she wants and include her more. You’re assuming she doesn’t want to be involved but if she’s sent that text then she clearly does or she wouldn’t be upset by it. She’s clearly felt you were rubbing her nose in it, obvs you weren’t but she’s hurt by it.
you also need to explain to her you didn’t think she was insterested . Both of you have to make an effort to resolve this as seems like there’s a lot of miscommunication and hurt

TheMerryJoker · 04/01/2026 17:57

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:23

I have tried to message MIL updates on the kids to keep her involved but she either didn’t respond (choosing instead to message dh back and ignoring me) or will just answer “aww”. And that’ll be the end of it. I do try to involve her. When she was getting a new car I even joked “make sure it’s big enough to have car seats in the back!” And she snapped back “I’m done raising my kids, I’m not raising yours!”. I was simply suggesting she might have her grandchildren in the car with her sometimes, not that I wanted her to raise my kids. I get her personality is quite stand offish but you cannot be standoffish with her DIL and grandkids then demand attention from us.

And in answer to the question about the instagram post, I was trying to impress my mum. I acknowledge her privately and I chose to also acknowledge her publicly. She deserves it. It’s good to be grateful, it’s how I also want to raise my dc.

And she snapped back “I’m done raising my kids, I’m not raising yours!”

that says it all,

walkingmycatnameddog · 04/01/2026 17:51

YANBU. We ‘made’ our parents grandparents in their forties so all four were still in full time career driven employment. Nonetheless both sets involved themselves willingly with help and love equally. But my goodness there was jealousy and jostling for position! It was hard work to keep smiling but we kept out of the bickering. I think you would do well to ignore mil’s missive.

Jukeboxjulie69 · 04/01/2026 17:46

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:10

We have two small dc, 3 and 7mo. From the start my mum has been by my side helping with the kids, having older dc over night when I went into labour, offering to take kids at the weekend to give us a break, and LOVES time with the grandchildren. She would be here all the time if she could. She calls every day, sometimes multiple times a day, to talk to dc. I’m so grateful, her attention to the kids warms my heart. Both dc adore her.

MIL isn’t really involved. She sends Christmas and birthday presents. She has met younger dc twice and sees older dc maybe 2-3 times a year. But we always have to go to her, she won’t come to us because she “doesn’t like driving” but will drive the same distance to her sister’s every week. Even just after younger dc was born, she asked us to come to her to meet dc. She doesn’t call. She never asks after the kids.

Without thinking, I Made a soppy post on instagram about how much I appreciate my mum and everything she’s done for me in 2025. My mum has instagram and i wanted to make a public acknowledgment of everything she’s done (I also bought her a very thoughtful Christmas gift and am planning something big for Mother’s Day). But MIL saw it (she doesn’t have instagram but her adult dd does so I’m guessing adult dd showed her). She has sent dh a long and aggressive message about how she feels left out and about how unfair it is and how unappreciated she feels. She said she feels like she “can’t compete”. She. Is. Not. Involved. She chooses to not make an effort. I said to dh, even if she just called once a week to speak to the kids, that would be amazing but she just doesn’t. And now she’s annoyed at not receiving acknowledgement for something she doesn’t do. Now, I appreciate I probably shouldn’t have made the instagram post (maybe) but honestly, I didn’t even think about her when making it. Again, because she includes herself so little in our lives that how it reflected on her didn’t even cross my mind.

AIBU for acknowledging my very involved mother and not including MIL in a token way? I appreciate it would have cost nothing to just throw in a token “and we are grateful for MIL too” as well, even if it wasn’t true.

YANBU, someone who doesn’t make an effort cannot expect to be thanked for being involved.

Do and say nothing. The post was none of her business but she’s made it about her. If she wanted to be involved she would have been