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MIL not putting in effort and then complaining she feels “left out”.

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Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:10

We have two small dc, 3 and 7mo. From the start my mum has been by my side helping with the kids, having older dc over night when I went into labour, offering to take kids at the weekend to give us a break, and LOVES time with the grandchildren. She would be here all the time if she could. She calls every day, sometimes multiple times a day, to talk to dc. I’m so grateful, her attention to the kids warms my heart. Both dc adore her.

MIL isn’t really involved. She sends Christmas and birthday presents. She has met younger dc twice and sees older dc maybe 2-3 times a year. But we always have to go to her, she won’t come to us because she “doesn’t like driving” but will drive the same distance to her sister’s every week. Even just after younger dc was born, she asked us to come to her to meet dc. She doesn’t call. She never asks after the kids.

Without thinking, I Made a soppy post on instagram about how much I appreciate my mum and everything she’s done for me in 2025. My mum has instagram and i wanted to make a public acknowledgment of everything she’s done (I also bought her a very thoughtful Christmas gift and am planning something big for Mother’s Day). But MIL saw it (she doesn’t have instagram but her adult dd does so I’m guessing adult dd showed her). She has sent dh a long and aggressive message about how she feels left out and about how unfair it is and how unappreciated she feels. She said she feels like she “can’t compete”. She. Is. Not. Involved. She chooses to not make an effort. I said to dh, even if she just called once a week to speak to the kids, that would be amazing but she just doesn’t. And now she’s annoyed at not receiving acknowledgement for something she doesn’t do. Now, I appreciate I probably shouldn’t have made the instagram post (maybe) but honestly, I didn’t even think about her when making it. Again, because she includes herself so little in our lives that how it reflected on her didn’t even cross my mind.

AIBU for acknowledging my very involved mother and not including MIL in a token way? I appreciate it would have cost nothing to just throw in a token “and we are grateful for MIL too” as well, even if it wasn’t true.

YANBU, someone who doesn’t make an effort cannot expect to be thanked for being involved.

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Autumnleaffall · 04/01/2026 22:49

This has roots doesn’t it? You need to think about what they might be and put it right.

ALittleDropOfRain · 04/01/2026 22:40

When we announced we were expecting, MiL made some very disparaging remarks. The relationship to DH had been cool for a long time. There was no offer to help in the first months, and there was only one visit that felt like a duty visit.

when my mum came on a week‘s visit when DS was 6 months so I could work a contract, MiL managed a sniffy ‘I’m here too!’. I told her she was welcome to see DS at any time but we had got the impression she didn’t want to be involved. So she should think about the sort of relationship she wanted and we would work together to make it happen.

She phoned a week later. It turned out DS’ birth had brought up all sorts of memories of her own somewhat overbearing mother. She offered to do anything but made it clear she would not interfere as she felt her own mother had.

That very direct, frank approach led to her becoming a fabulous grandma. She has some health issues, but has always found a way to make her relationship with DS(9) work. When he was 5 she moved to our village. She does an afternoon after school. Jumps in on sick days. She used to take him on bus and train rides, now they read, bake, and play board games together. She‘ll have him overnight if we ask, and she makes an effort to keep up with his interests and recognise his friends. Sometimes she’ll ask if she can take him to the circus or just borrow him for an afternoon. It’s given her a new lease of life, helped the relationship with DH, and DS benefits hugely too.

sunshinestar1986 · 04/01/2026 22:39

IwishIcouldconfess · 04/01/2026 08:02

You and your mother sound like you're in a codependent relationship.
Calling several times a day isn't healthy.

Lol
What a bizaare comment.
Just because you clearly don't have that sort of relationship with your mum, doesn't mean it isn't healthy and normal.

phoenixrosehere · 04/01/2026 22:16

Buffs · 04/01/2026 21:54

I don’t understand why you have to make a public post when you could simply thank your mum directly. It’s the kind of thing ghastly celebrities do and then get flack for it.

OP is not a celebrity as far as we know and people are more than allowed to post what they want on their social media to give thanks however and whomever they want to and to give flack to celebrities over it is weird imo.

MIL is practically telling on herself to complain about OP talking about her own relationship with her own mum because she doesn’t seem bothered with her own relationships with her sons. OP talking about her own mother on her personal social media doesn’t take away from or stop her son from doing the same about her or him telling her how he feels about her.

She only cares because she was shown the post and likely assumes others will wonder about why she wasn’t spoken about in the same vein when in reality no one is thinking of her at all with that message.

I think OP is lucky to have such a lovely mum, many of us are not blessed with such mums, unfortunately.

momtoboys · 04/01/2026 22:00

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 08:01

We are an hour from PIL. My parents moved house when they found out I was pregnant so that they could be more involved. So they are 10 mins away but this was a conscious decision made at great personal cost and sacrifice. I should say also, my parents aren’t British and come
from a culture where grandparents are much, much more involved than in the UK. For them culturally, there’s no question about it, they are there to help, this is their family, that’s just what you do. I get that often (I totally get not in all cases!) the level of involvement for grandparents in the uk isn’t quite as high, often through no fault of their own (like having to work longer in life etc, although MIL is retired). So yes, my mother does too much by British standards but by her personal standards she’s doing the normal amount. Dh and I have both acknowledged this cultural difference, and we have accepted but but it does seem MIL is a bit jealous and might perhaps prefer that my mother did a more “standard” level of care of my children - I do get that this situation is unusual. But I am so grateful for my
mum and have tried to be respectful of the fact that MIL just culturally does not feel the need to be as involved.

OP, are you American? I ask because I am Irish currently living in the US and grandparents are very involved here. I think it’s nice. YANBU

Buffs · 04/01/2026 21:54

I don’t understand why you have to make a public post when you could simply thank your mum directly. It’s the kind of thing ghastly celebrities do and then get flack for it.

happyduckk · 04/01/2026 21:53

OP, your mum sounds wonderful and the way your acknowledge and celebrate what she does for you and your children is beautiful.
I hardly ever post here but I feel quite strong that you have done a lovely thing and have nothing to feel bad about.
Recognising and celebrating someone does not take away from someone else. Even if your MIL was very involved, you would always be allowed to show recognition to each grandmother without it taking away from the other grandmother.
In this case your husband is not going to post thanking his mum because there is nothing to thank.
Please do not feel bad for the beautiful gesture you have done. Your MIL feels how she feels - please do not feel responsible for managing or fixing her feelings.
I am so happy for you that you and your children have such aother and grandmother, and that she has you to cherish her. You have inspired me to be more vocal towards my own mother for all she does for us. Thank you.

anon666 · 04/01/2026 21:46

Some people just don't get it. Life. They dont understand that if you want something, you have to make an effort to make it happen.

Instead they sit there bemoaning their lot.

In a way it's tragic. But to be aggressively accused of something you haven't done. That's not only not fair, but not terribly helpful at resolving her problem, because I bet you're now writing her off as a toxic narcissist. Or if you're not, others in this thread probably are.

ElizaJ74 · 04/01/2026 21:30

All these people that are criticising your relationship with your lovely mum AND her relationship with her GC are blowing my mind!
It is my pleasure and my privilege to spend time with my GC and if my time with them helps my DIL then all the better
You have nothing at all to feel bad about.
If she wanted a relationship with them, she would and that isn't really on either of you to try and force

Nantescalling · 04/01/2026 21:25

Maybe your DH could tell her that's a cultural thing - your parents go out of their way to help and you go out of your way to show gratitude. It sounds as though she is a bit of a handful, NC with SIL - Bad omen ! In any case, not your problem to deal with her, it's his! He needs your support, he's in a tricky situation.

JohnTheRevelator · 04/01/2026 21:01

You have done nothing wrong. Don't feel guilty about the Instagram post. It's your MiL who is in the wrong here,not you. If she wants Instagram posts like that about her she needs to step up!

Nantescalling · 04/01/2026 21:01

Blasterplaster · 04/01/2026 07:15

In most of these cases your mother is most involved as you encourage that and you discourage your mil. So we’re only hearing your side and with the whole picture you’re probably being unreasonable. Why the public soppy post? Who are you trying to impress? Why not thank her personally? Why the need for an audience?

Are you always unkind?

rainingsnoring · 04/01/2026 20:50

Lollylavender · 04/01/2026 19:12

I’m also terrified about having sons…

Op, do you have a boy? Have you thought about being a mother in law too one day?

Some posters just can't help making other people's posts all about themselves.
Many mothers of sons manage to navigate the relationships with their adult sons and their families very successfully. Others make no effort or are nasty to their DILs and then also want to complain about the inevitable results.

rainingsnoring · 04/01/2026 20:47

NoisyViewer · 04/01/2026 19:28

My MIL lived round the corner from me & my SIL. She would always have my SIL kids but never ours & on a rare occasion she’d have my daughter she cancelled saying my nephew was ill & she needed to help SIL to look after him. She was having her so I could go to work because my own mom couldn’t have her that day. I said could she not have my daughter as SIL doesn’t work & so nephew was already being looked after. She told me in no uncertain terms am not to make her choose as I won’t like the answer. I had to have the day off & my work wasn’t the most sympathetic when it came to sick days. She would spend less on bdays and Christmas’s on our children & whilst she would take my nephews out our kids where never so much as taken to a park. she always had my SIL kids & whilst I get the dynamics are different between sons & daughters i did feel resentful.

a few years ago SIL & mil have had a massive fall out & my SIL has gone NC with her & now I keep getting calls on her seeing the kids & doing things with them. We’ve moved away now & kids are 20 & 15 and just aren’t interested. So no I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. MIL has made zero effort & your H should tell her the post wasn’t meant for her in anyway. You’re allowed to honour your mom in the same way she has a right to be a disinterested mom

Blatant favourtism like this causes havoc in family relationships. Your MIL is reaping what she has sown, which is only fair. Of course a couple of teenagers are not suddenly going to be interested in someone who has shown no interest in them for 15/20 years.

Gingercatlover · 04/01/2026 20:39

BillyBites · 04/01/2026 07:42

@SomewhatAnnoyed How about you go back and re-read the OP?

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Sennelier1 · 04/01/2026 20:34

So MIL wants your praise for her involvement in your family but without having to involve herself? Like saying thank-you without anything to be thankful for?

WhatMummyMakesSheEats · 04/01/2026 20:28

Tourmalines · 04/01/2026 07:19

Do you invite her over? Do you send her photos ? What about the olders birthday, don’t you have a get together and invite her? Have you let her babysit ?

That sounds like her husband’s job?

TheAquaFawn · 04/01/2026 20:23

I could have written this myself (apart from the involvement of my own mum). You have done absolutely nothing wrong in posting on Instagram or showing your love and gratitude for your mum. It sounds like your MIL wants you to fit in around her needs too much. She could also be feeling a bit insecure in general and wants you to invite her / compliment her more. This is the experience I’ve had anyway. That said, it’s not your job to do that, you have young children and can’t prioritise her insecurity. You could just very warmly say ‘we would love you to visit and be more involved. Please let us know when you’re free to come down.’ Something like that she can’t really pick apart and it makes it clear the onus is on her.

Rett63 · 04/01/2026 19:54

No YANBU at all. My mum (RIP) and angel and now ex MIL the opposite of an angel were exactly the same. 25 years later hasn’t changed. Wonders why my DC have no time for her. Good for you acknowledging your DM

Scout2016 · 04/01/2026 19:47

You can't thank her for things she hasn't done.

Maybecall her bluff. Say "we'd love you to be more involved, you are always welcome. Let's get some dates in the diary now - when would you like to come?" You have 3 kids so it can't always be you going there.

"Cheddar's mum was going to babysit on X but we're happy for you to instead if that's ok."

"The kids really enjoy phone calls, X is usually a good time, does that suit you?"

phoenixrosehere · 04/01/2026 19:46

Daftypants · 04/01/2026 19:07

Ok ..so you invite her to your home ?
How long is the drive and is it a tricky road to drive or navigate ?
I sort of understand the driving if she’s uncomfortable with that .
Could she get a train or bus to you , do you have room to have her stay a night or 2 ?
What I don’t understand is why she doesn’t maybe phone once a week .
Your own mum does sound like she does more than most other grandparents

All this is in OP’s posts.

MIL drives to her sister who is the same amount of time from her son but doesn’t visit him.

MIL doesn’t even call her own son often and son calls her way more and he is hurt by his mother’s behaviour. MIL is also NC with her other son and refuses to consider his child her grandchild because she doesn’t like the mother of the grandchild.

MIL doesn’t even have SM and barely communicates with OP and her own son but only decides til she was shown OP’s post about her mum to then contact her son.

As pps have said, leave to her DH to sort who already thinks his mother is just causing unnecessary drama and his sister too
from the read of things.

Kayakerpaddleboarder · 04/01/2026 19:31

I am a Nan in her early 60's. I do not have regular visits from my son and family. But, I make an effort to contact them, ( Yes, by text. we're not all tech useless) when a few weeks has gone by to arrange a family get together with the grandkids. I also babysit whenever I am asked and will have the GC overnight so they can have time to be a couple again. The only time I get contacted by them, is when they need my help. My DIL mother does nothing. However, my point is, the OP's MIL could easily contact them by phoning if necessary to maintain links. It sounds to me like the MIL wants praise for doing sweet FA. Its guilt fueling her offended reaction. Just tell her how can you praise her when she does nothing. Praise is earn't not routinely given just because of the title of Nan.

NoisyViewer · 04/01/2026 19:28

My MIL lived round the corner from me & my SIL. She would always have my SIL kids but never ours & on a rare occasion she’d have my daughter she cancelled saying my nephew was ill & she needed to help SIL to look after him. She was having her so I could go to work because my own mom couldn’t have her that day. I said could she not have my daughter as SIL doesn’t work & so nephew was already being looked after. She told me in no uncertain terms am not to make her choose as I won’t like the answer. I had to have the day off & my work wasn’t the most sympathetic when it came to sick days. She would spend less on bdays and Christmas’s on our children & whilst she would take my nephews out our kids where never so much as taken to a park. she always had my SIL kids & whilst I get the dynamics are different between sons & daughters i did feel resentful.

a few years ago SIL & mil have had a massive fall out & my SIL has gone NC with her & now I keep getting calls on her seeing the kids & doing things with them. We’ve moved away now & kids are 20 & 15 and just aren’t interested. So no I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. MIL has made zero effort & your H should tell her the post wasn’t meant for her in anyway. You’re allowed to honour your mom in the same way she has a right to be a disinterested mom

Ladygardenerinderby · 04/01/2026 19:27

I love how much you appreciate your mum and you wanted to share it publicly. Our daughter doesn’t appreciate us at all and yet we do everything you say your mum does so it makes my heart sing that you DO appreciate her . As for mother in law she’s probably feeling a bit bitter could your partner maybe speak to his mum ?

WildLeader · 04/01/2026 19:25

Hufflemuff · 04/01/2026 08:10

Your DH should reply: "Hi Mum, sorry youre upset by this. Its not about competing, but your unwillingness to drive to us makes it tricky to involve you. How often are you hoping to be seeing us? Maybe you could call us more? It's always me calling you - but I'd be happy to hear from you if you called me."

It puts a lot of the responsibilities moving forward onto her. She has to say - I want to see you once a month AND then you can say, how do you expect that happens, can you drive to us please? You've asked her to call you and reminded her that its always you calling her - without being confrontational.

This.

put it back on her with a side order of “you don’t even have SM…”