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MIL not putting in effort and then complaining she feels “left out”.

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Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:10

We have two small dc, 3 and 7mo. From the start my mum has been by my side helping with the kids, having older dc over night when I went into labour, offering to take kids at the weekend to give us a break, and LOVES time with the grandchildren. She would be here all the time if she could. She calls every day, sometimes multiple times a day, to talk to dc. I’m so grateful, her attention to the kids warms my heart. Both dc adore her.

MIL isn’t really involved. She sends Christmas and birthday presents. She has met younger dc twice and sees older dc maybe 2-3 times a year. But we always have to go to her, she won’t come to us because she “doesn’t like driving” but will drive the same distance to her sister’s every week. Even just after younger dc was born, she asked us to come to her to meet dc. She doesn’t call. She never asks after the kids.

Without thinking, I Made a soppy post on instagram about how much I appreciate my mum and everything she’s done for me in 2025. My mum has instagram and i wanted to make a public acknowledgment of everything she’s done (I also bought her a very thoughtful Christmas gift and am planning something big for Mother’s Day). But MIL saw it (she doesn’t have instagram but her adult dd does so I’m guessing adult dd showed her). She has sent dh a long and aggressive message about how she feels left out and about how unfair it is and how unappreciated she feels. She said she feels like she “can’t compete”. She. Is. Not. Involved. She chooses to not make an effort. I said to dh, even if she just called once a week to speak to the kids, that would be amazing but she just doesn’t. And now she’s annoyed at not receiving acknowledgement for something she doesn’t do. Now, I appreciate I probably shouldn’t have made the instagram post (maybe) but honestly, I didn’t even think about her when making it. Again, because she includes herself so little in our lives that how it reflected on her didn’t even cross my mind.

AIBU for acknowledging my very involved mother and not including MIL in a token way? I appreciate it would have cost nothing to just throw in a token “and we are grateful for MIL too” as well, even if it wasn’t true.

YANBU, someone who doesn’t make an effort cannot expect to be thanked for being involved.

OP posts:
JacknDiane · 04/01/2026 08:36

Blasterplaster · 04/01/2026 07:15

In most of these cases your mother is most involved as you encourage that and you discourage your mil. So we’re only hearing your side and with the whole picture you’re probably being unreasonable. Why the public soppy post? Who are you trying to impress? Why not thank her personally? Why the need for an audience?

This exactly.

You know what you are doing @Conversationalcheddar.

LoveSandbanks · 04/01/2026 08:36

A woman who expects a newborn to be driven to her because she doesn’t like driving will never be reasonable!

HazelMember · 04/01/2026 08:34

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:53

This is a good point. But I should also say, neither dh or MIL have social media - I could have done a soppy post about her BUT she doesn’t have sm to be able to read it or appreciate it so that really would be an empty gesture on my part!

Maybe DH could get social media and he can do a soppy post. You can help him.

gamerchick · 04/01/2026 08:34

OP I think I would either go with what a PP suggested and just ask her how she would like to be more involved or just ignore it completely.

I'd also be blocking the shitstiring SIl from my SM as well.

Olderbutt · 04/01/2026 08:33

Tourmalines · 04/01/2026 08:00

Whoa, read receipts aren’t exactly cutting edge technology, even for a 60 year old.

I had to have a little chuckle at that too! Being nearer 70 and running social media accounts for several organisations! BTW OP YANBU

Tpu · 04/01/2026 08:33

Conversationalcheddar · 04/01/2026 07:26

He hasn’t yet. We were both so shocked by her message we agreed to wait until we are less emotional about it, so we can reply more calmly. Dh is very much of the opinion she’s just fishing for drama and doesn’t want to engage with it. He will reply, but we need to think about how we can respond without inflaming the situation.

He should reply to his mum directly rather than allowing his sister triangulate and shit-stir.

He definitely needs to really think through what he wants from the conversation.….
At the same time his mother sounds like a very immature person. She is jealous of someone doing what she won’t and doesn’t want to do.
There is zero, absolutely zero, point in trying to have a constructive conversation with a person who is going to leap down your throat (which she will - where has SIL learned that from!)
Maybe he can open the door with “SIL said you were unhappy about Cheddar’s IG post, do you want to talk about it. Or was it just venting a bit and she shouldn’t have mentioned it to me?” Then it puts the ball in her court - if she doesn’t go any further just forget about it. Her emotions are not yours to be placating and soothing.

The other thing of course is about the quality of the time. My kids spent approximately equal time with both sides of the family. But with my parents it was always better because they were interested in the kids themselves as people. Until quite late in the teenage years they were seen by PIL as a task or burden, and it isn’t about which side of the family it was, there are great aunts and uncles that they enjoy visiting: because those people are interested in the kids themselves.

gamerchick · 04/01/2026 08:33

Soontobe60 · 04/01/2026 08:11

That’s sad you think that way about your own grandchildren! When I have my DGC overnight I don’t think of it as giving their parents a break, I think of it as spending quality time with my grandchildren. When I was little I lived staying at my grandmas house overnight, my DC loved staying at their grandparents too.

I'm the same thoughts. It's a pleasure to spend time with my grandbaby. I don't see it was giving a break to his parents.

It's important that grandkids actually knows you and feel comfortable with you to step in for "emergencies' so that poster is unlikely to have that problem either. Kids sense uninterested family members.

thepariscrimefiles · 04/01/2026 08:33

IwishIcouldconfess · 04/01/2026 08:11

You can look at me and my comments all you want.
Calling someone several times a day isn't healthy.

OP and her parents come from a different culture where this is healthy and normal for them.

I'm presuming that OP will probably provide hands-on elderly care for her parents when they need it.

IwishIcouldconfess · 04/01/2026 08:31

echt · 04/01/2026 08:28

For you, possibly. Everything about the OP's post says she's loves it, and her DH''s reactions say he has no objections either.

To me it sounds like neither if them have actually cut the apron strings.

Blasterplaster · 04/01/2026 08:30

RosesAndHellebores · 04/01/2026 08:23

Who said I wouldn't have them overnight? I'd love that but as part of a loving relationship, not as a contractual arrangement to provide childcare or breaks. If DD or DIL were ill, of course I'd have their DC, if it was for regular weekends away and date nights that would be a different matter.

We have one on the way, and I've always been clear with the DC that I shall not be an alternative form of childcare.

Agree. My mother lives a short drive away and we’d never use her for weekly childcare, but many of her friends are, and she tells me they felt they couldn't say no to the requests, but they fall out of the local community as a result - they are unable to join in the coffee mornings / walking groups / book clubs / Pilates etc which make up so much of the village life as they have toddlers in tow. They don’t get any say over when they go on holiday either. She said it’s very sad, and they see it as taking massive advantage.

thepariscrimefiles · 04/01/2026 08:29

RosesAndHellebores · 04/01/2026 08:07

To be fair, I'm amazed your mother does so much and you let her or need it to that extent. I wonder of your MIL thinks you are taking advantage of her.

As a MIL, I'd have found your comment about making sure my new car was big enough for car seats assumptive and inappropriate. I'd like to hear from your MIL and I'm afraid as a woman in my mid 60s, who still works a professional job, I won't be raising my DIL's or DD's DC.

Help in emergencies, yes, giving my dd or DIL a break at weekends, absolutely not. Being a form of unpaid childcare, absolutely not.

How far is this drive? Is she still happy driving at night? Us oldies do develop issues with night vision which is worse on unfamiliar roads.

You obviously have a very hands-off approach to being a grandparent which obviously suits your family and you are still working.

OP and her mum come from a culture where the grandparents are very involved in the care of grandchildren so this is normal for them.

If one of your DILs posted on social media thanking her mother for all the help she gives with her grandchildren, would you still be upset and offended given that you wouldn't dream of providing hands-on care and support for your grandkids?

firstofallimadelight · 04/01/2026 08:28

Mapletree1985 · 04/01/2026 08:13

No, it's not her responsibility, but it might be a nice thing to do and help create a more positive, bonded extended family. But sure, if the wife thinks there's zero necessity for any kind of relationship with her husband's mother, then it's hardly surprising MIL feels excluded. Would you also say DH has no responsibility to build any kind of relationship with his wife's mother?

And if Mil did nice things for the family like her mother does then yes maybe she would

echt · 04/01/2026 08:28

IwishIcouldconfess · 04/01/2026 08:26

Course it isn't healthy. Its suffocating.

For you, possibly. Everything about the OP's post says she's loves it, and her DH''s reactions say he has no objections either.

Poodleville · 04/01/2026 08:26

Yanbu of course.
I think if I were your Dh I would respond with "I'm sorry mum, I had no idea you felt that way. I had the impression you weren't keen to be involved more, especially when you said you were done raising your kids. Please can you let me know what you have in mind if you'd like to be involved more?"

Then see what she says.

I think this is one of these times it's important for him to use I and not we.

IwishIcouldconfess · 04/01/2026 08:26

ChavsAreReal · 04/01/2026 08:25

Who said its not 'healthy' for 2 adults to call several times a day if they both want to?

Course it isn't healthy. Its suffocating.

Blasterplaster · 04/01/2026 08:25

echt · 04/01/2026 08:24

While I would argue with the use of "needs to do" by @Mapletree1985, it's the OP's mum she's referring, to, not the MIL.

Agree. The OP’s mother is staid to be doing what the ‘needs’ to do, implying that MIL ‘needs’ to act in a similar manner if she wants to be included.

ChavsAreReal · 04/01/2026 08:25

IwishIcouldconfess · 04/01/2026 08:02

You and your mother sound like you're in a codependent relationship.
Calling several times a day isn't healthy.

Who said its not 'healthy' for 2 adults to call several times a day if they both want to?

echt · 04/01/2026 08:24

Blasterplaster · 04/01/2026 08:22

Is this what she ‘needs’ to do? If so I don’t blame her for throwing in the towel. If she doesn’t lay herself down as a doormat she’s not doing what she ‘needs’ to do?

While I would argue with the use of "needs to do" by @Mapletree1985, it's the OP's mum she's referring, to, not the MIL.

RosesAndHellebores · 04/01/2026 08:23

Soontobe60 · 04/01/2026 08:11

That’s sad you think that way about your own grandchildren! When I have my DGC overnight I don’t think of it as giving their parents a break, I think of it as spending quality time with my grandchildren. When I was little I lived staying at my grandmas house overnight, my DC loved staying at their grandparents too.

Who said I wouldn't have them overnight? I'd love that but as part of a loving relationship, not as a contractual arrangement to provide childcare or breaks. If DD or DIL were ill, of course I'd have their DC, if it was for regular weekends away and date nights that would be a different matter.

We have one on the way, and I've always been clear with the DC that I shall not be an alternative form of childcare.

ViciousCurrentBun · 04/01/2026 08:23

You have Mothers on the opposite ends of involvement and extreme examples at both ends. Both magnify how each behaves. Without doubt the MIL is disinterested but getting the balance correct can be hard with grandchildren, I don’t have any but have observed my much older sisters grandchildren issues from the sidelines and seen the fallout.

FuzzyBumbleeBee · 04/01/2026 08:22

She's made her choice

Recently I had to pull up my family on their involvement in dcs life despite living just as close as Pil who are amazing

Don't let people tell you that you should be putting in the leg work sending updates and photos

Doors go both ways is my moto

If she wants to be part of their lives and have posts made about her she is just as capable of making an effort and calling or messaging if the travel is too much.
My dgm, childrens dggm who is mid 90's can manage to email and asks for photos of them, can't manage to attach her own pics but that's fine.

ScarletSwan · 04/01/2026 08:22

A woman who snarls that she’s “done raising (her) kids” and won’t raise OP's and because she “doesn’t like driving” only sees the children 2 or 3 times a year can hardly be surprised that she hardly has any role in her grandchildren's lives. Ignore all those suggestions about trying to get her more involved as she seems to have almost no interest in your children and appears a deeply unpleasant woman. I think your SIL who drew your MIL's attention to the post is also likely quite unpleasant herself.

Blasterplaster · 04/01/2026 08:22

Mapletree1985 · 04/01/2026 08:17

OP's mum knows what she needs to do in order to be included in her grandchildren's lives.

Is this what she ‘needs’ to do? If so I don’t blame her for throwing in the towel. If she doesn’t lay herself down as a doormat she’s not doing what she ‘needs’ to do?

swanningaroundtown · 04/01/2026 08:21

RosesAndHellebores · 04/01/2026 08:07

To be fair, I'm amazed your mother does so much and you let her or need it to that extent. I wonder of your MIL thinks you are taking advantage of her.

As a MIL, I'd have found your comment about making sure my new car was big enough for car seats assumptive and inappropriate. I'd like to hear from your MIL and I'm afraid as a woman in my mid 60s, who still works a professional job, I won't be raising my DIL's or DD's DC.

Help in emergencies, yes, giving my dd or DIL a break at weekends, absolutely not. Being a form of unpaid childcare, absolutely not.

How far is this drive? Is she still happy driving at night? Us oldies do develop issues with night vision which is worse on unfamiliar roads.

So, presumably, when you become old and frail and require some practical help its perfectly ok for your children to then say they will only help you in a dire emergency and "won't be caring for you because we've already cared for our own children" because this works both ways....

echt · 04/01/2026 08:21

Blasterplaster · 04/01/2026 08:18

Surely the grandparents being happy matters too though? I always think people who treat their parents as constant free childcare are shady.

Is that what the OP's mum does? Read the OP's first post.