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My nanny got cosmetic surgery and can’t work

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Crispychillifriedbeef · 03/01/2026 17:26

We live overseas and we have a full time nanny. She also does cleaning, laundry, cooking etc. This is normal for the culture here. Everyone has a housekeeper / nanny / driver. We pay her well and she’s part of the family, she’s been with us 18 months with no problems.

My husband works full time and I’m a writer and a part time student. We have a small child at school and a two year old who is at home but attends an educational setting part time. My husband and I go to lots of events so need evening cover.

Anyway, we have been in our home country for 3 weeks over Christmas and the nanny has had 3 weeks paid leave. She sends me a WhatsApp today saying “I’ve had cosmetic surgery done” with various photos. She is expecting to be off work for 3-4 weeks. We come back to the country tomorrow so we’re expecting to see her tomorrow.

AIBU to be annoyed? This was sprung on me at the last minute.

OP posts:
VivX · 04/01/2026 20:15

Differentforgirls · 04/01/2026 17:39

I have and am still none the wiser!

Is the point that:
if you have used childcare, the childminder or nursery staff is employed to do something you could do yourself (eg be a SAHP)
if your children are in school, the teacher is employed to do something you could do yourself (eg home educate)
If you've ever eaten in a restaurant, the staff have to cook the meal and serve it to you (as opposed to you cooking yourself and eating at home)
If you have takeaway delivery, staff are paid to cook the meal and deliver it to you (again, as opposed to you cooking it yourself)
If your rubbish is collected, the refuse collectors are paid to empty your bins (instead of you driving to the tip or landfill yourself)

ie, in all of the above, people are paid to provide a service, be it childcare, teaching, cooking, refuse collection; paying a nanny is the same principle as paying for any other service.

I'm guessing somewhat because the first post in the sub-thread was removed by MN.

BrendaSmall · 04/01/2026 20:01

PalmTreesandPinaColada123 · 03/01/2026 19:20

OK, I will indulge this nonsense. How exactly did you work full time and cared for a toddler at the same time? I can't exactly lock the door and leave a 2 year old home alone. Even if I worked from home, my clients would not appreciate me giving legal advice while chasing a toddler.

Other than households with shift workers who can find opposite shifts, I can't see how 2 people can work full time with children.

I have 3 children
Both my husband and I worked full time and never have we used childcare apart from when they went to school, yes it is possible, my husband worked 40 hours a week and I worked 36 hours!
So yes, it is possible

ByWisePanda · 04/01/2026 19:07

You could ask other parents who uses childminders to look after your children for 3 weeks. You can use that time to try and find another nanny. She is taking the piss having surgery without giving you time to find a temporary nanny. I think she done it on purpose so you don't replace her. I hope you do find someone else so her little plan backfires.

Differentforgirls · 04/01/2026 17:39

KarenWheeler · 04/01/2026 17:27

Try reading my original post again.

I have and am still none the wiser!

KarenWheeler · 04/01/2026 17:27

Differentforgirls · 04/01/2026 14:44

I have no idea what you mean.

Try reading my original post again.

Antaes · 04/01/2026 16:46

This is unexaptable from her hope she don't expect you to pay for her sick leave

VikaOlson · 04/01/2026 16:39

Poodleville · 04/01/2026 15:12

Finding people's responses baffling. Of course the nanny took the piss. And I have a feeling if OP was an entitled monster, the nanny wouldn't have dared tried this.

She had elective cosmetic surgery for goodness sake, it wasn't an emergency medical issue which would warrant patience, understanding and paid sick leave, despite any inconvenience caused.

Can you imagine the replies if the thread was 'My childminder is supposed to reopen after the Christmas holidays tomorrow but she's just text me to say she's taking the next three weeks off and isn't planning to refund my fees' 😂
Everyone would be advising the mum to trash her on facebook and report her to Ofsted to get the bitch closed down.

MinnieMountain · 04/01/2026 15:56

Please do @Crispychillifriedbeef . Which continent do you live in?

Poodleville · 04/01/2026 15:12

Finding people's responses baffling. Of course the nanny took the piss. And I have a feeling if OP was an entitled monster, the nanny wouldn't have dared tried this.

She had elective cosmetic surgery for goodness sake, it wasn't an emergency medical issue which would warrant patience, understanding and paid sick leave, despite any inconvenience caused.

Crispychillifriedbeef · 04/01/2026 14:51

SwedishEdith · 04/01/2026 14:48

Is there an AMA from a diplomat's wife? I'd love to read what it's actually like to be one.

I would be happy to do one very anonymously.

OP posts:
SwedishEdith · 04/01/2026 14:48

Is there an AMA from a diplomat's wife? I'd love to read what it's actually like to be one.

Differentforgirls · 04/01/2026 14:44

KarenWheeler · 04/01/2026 13:51

Neither is eating in a restaurant or having your rubbish taken away.

I have no idea what you mean.

Crispychillifriedbeef · 04/01/2026 14:39

Lotsnlotsoflove · 03/01/2026 23:27

Your children might appreciate some time with their parents. Genuinely why have children to rely on someone else to care for them to this extent? Boggles the mind. Evenings out so frequent that you cannot cope for 3-4 weeks is going to result in messed up adults once your kids are grown. Someone needs to tell you this to your face but they won’t.

This is exactly the contradiction I’m struggling with.

On other threads, diplomatic spouses are told very clearly that attendance at evening events is expected and opting out regularly isn’t realistic. Here, I’m being told that going to those same events means I don’t value time with my children and shouldn’t have had them.

Both things can’t be true at once.

My children spend the vast majority of their time with us. Using childcare for evenings doesn’t mean they are “raised by someone else”, and being frustrated by a sudden loss of childcare doesn’t equate to not wanting to parent.

This was about notice and logistics, not a referendum on whether I deserve to be a mother.

OP posts:
Crispychillifriedbeef · 04/01/2026 14:35

MadameTwoSwords · 03/01/2026 23:59

This has got to be a rage bait post. Imagine complaining that your nanny/cook/cleaner/domestic slave dared to do something to her body without your permission.

And imagine thinking that "my husband and i have a lot of important evening events to attend" is a reason for having your tiny kids be brought up by someone else. Why even have children if you don't want to spend time with them?

This is a remarkable leap.

She is a paid employee with a contract, autonomy, and the right to make decisions about her own body. Being surprised by the timing of a long absence is not the same as thinking anyone needs my “permission”.

Using childcare does not mean my children are “brought up by someone else”, any more than nurseries, grandparents or after-school clubs mean that for millions of families.

My post was about lack of notice and logistics, not about controlling another adult or not wanting to spend time with my children.

The repeated use of words like “slave” says far more about the assumptions being brought to this thread than about my family.

OP posts:
justasking111 · 04/01/2026 14:09

When DS was in the UAE it was expected that you hire people if you were a couple or family. The workers were there on licence , sending money home to family.

@Crispychillifriedbeef I suspected this employee would have more surgery in the pipeline. Do some research on recovery time after breast surgery. She may not be able to lift etc. for some time.

Crispychillifriedbeef · 04/01/2026 14:05

Lotsnlotsoflove · 04/01/2026 10:06

I wonder if it’s also the ‘done thing’ in this country for relatively wealthy men to use sex workers and if the OP and others would be so blasé about that as they are domestic labour.

I’m genuinely uncomfortable with that comparison.

Employing a nanny is a lawful, contractual care arrangement that exists in every society. Comparing childcare or domestic work to sex work is inappropriate and demeaning to both professions.

We can disagree about personal choices without resorting to analogies that strip people of dignity.

OP posts:
JahanaraBegum · 04/01/2026 13:52

Many people on here really don't get that it works differently in other countries. In India if you are middle class (which is not the same as UK middle class) you are expected to hire one or more domestic maids. If you don't then people will judge you for not supporting locals. It is so common to have a driver and security too if you are of a standard with UK middle class. It isn't luxury, it is seen as a social obligation and it also creates jobs for people. UK is oddly judgy about people paying for help with anything. If you don't do it all yourself and wear yourself down gradually into a joyless stump, you are clearly lazy and spoiled!

KarenWheeler · 04/01/2026 13:51

Differentforgirls · 04/01/2026 07:56

School isn’t childcare.

Neither is eating in a restaurant or having your rubbish taken away.

Daytimetellyqueen · 04/01/2026 13:45

saraclara · 04/01/2026 10:26

Here's an example of how normal is is in some countries, to have domestic staff.

A friend of mine is in a similar situation to OP. She has a housekeeper and a driver/odd job man. Both those staff members have staff of their own! Her housekeeper has a nanny, and her driver has a housekeeper!

It's really not just the upper echelons and diplomats that live this way (and this is in a poor country). It's not remotely unusual, at least in the towns and cities, and without it the poorest would have no income at all.

Just because something is out of the realms of one's experience, doesn't make it wrong or exploitative. If you treat your employees well, then you've provided valuable employment, just as I provide (two hours worth) of employment to my cleaner.

Edited

Absolutely!

Rosealea · 04/01/2026 11:35

Crispychillifriedbeef · 04/01/2026 08:41

Tbh I am keeping an eye open for when friends leave to see if I could possibly hire someone else. To some extent it’s better the devil you know.

She's not the devil though tbf.

This sounds like the one and only time there's been an issue.

You've said you're unhappy, she's reducing her time off request to a third.

You've laid out the rules if she wants to have any more surgery so she's now fully aware of what's expected and what's unacceptable.

Wipe the slate clean. She seems good at her job. Up until now you've been very happy with her, your children love her and she's been very reliable.

She doesn't deserve one strike and she's out. If something happens again then fair enough but give her a chance. Noone is perfect. She's made a mistake, you've sorted a solution out so let it go and move on.

VikaOlson · 04/01/2026 11:15

Truetoself · 04/01/2026 05:31

Why has this thread got derailed into the OP having paid help or who funds it etc? I some parts of the world, it is normal to have house help and lives are more comfortable than for most people in the UK.
This actually means you can spend more wuality time with your children without the drudgery.

Jealous much?

OP you are nor being unreasonable to be annoyed.

However, you will likely cope.

You should have a word with your maid about her work ethic and your expectations.

Normal for wealthy people - the majority of the population do not have household help and more comfortable lives.

saraclara · 04/01/2026 10:26

Here's an example of how normal is is in some countries, to have domestic staff.

A friend of mine is in a similar situation to OP. She has a housekeeper and a driver/odd job man. Both those staff members have staff of their own! Her housekeeper has a nanny, and her driver has a housekeeper!

It's really not just the upper echelons and diplomats that live this way (and this is in a poor country). It's not remotely unusual, at least in the towns and cities, and without it the poorest would have no income at all.

Just because something is out of the realms of one's experience, doesn't make it wrong or exploitative. If you treat your employees well, then you've provided valuable employment, just as I provide (two hours worth) of employment to my cleaner.

saraclara · 04/01/2026 10:18

Lotsnlotsoflove · 04/01/2026 10:06

I wonder if it’s also the ‘done thing’ in this country for relatively wealthy men to use sex workers and if the OP and others would be so blasé about that as they are domestic labour.

What an astonishingly false equivalence. I have no idea why you think that relevant to this thread.

I have a cleaner, here in the UK. Do you honestly think that has any equivalent at all to a local man seeing a sex worker?

PatienceofasaintNot · 04/01/2026 10:08

I pressed YABU by mistake. Glad you are not being placed in a lengthy absence situation. She was unreasonable. I would expect her to take annual leave for that kind of cosmetic surgery.

Lotsnlotsoflove · 04/01/2026 10:06

I wonder if it’s also the ‘done thing’ in this country for relatively wealthy men to use sex workers and if the OP and others would be so blasé about that as they are domestic labour.