Sick leave annual leave

You cant declare you have had £500 deducted forb2 days sick but say you dont earn that much. The 2 things cannot be true.

Either you are on £30/hr or you weren't deducted £500 forn2 days sick leave.

The solution here would be to ask for a Stringer payment ( that is what it is called in the civil service) the days are correctly recorded as sick for attendance management and potential ill health retirement purposes BUT you can use up a days AL at the same time to get the pay for AL. Most commonly used when the employee has gone onto nil or half pay. You need to ask for this specifically (this is what the ACAS stuff upthread refers to) what you can’t do is say oy boss stick me down as AL for my sick days without explaining exactly what you want (even if boss has done this in the past - and probably got grief from senior management for it)

Employers haven't been able to claim back SSP for years, are you in England?

Aren't the generous and full sick pay?

You can ask to take annual leave instead of sick leave, there is no issue with it legally. It might be against company policy though.

OP-I suggest speaking to your manager, it sounds like it was logged incorrectly. Hopefully they can ask payroll to amend and make a BACs payment to you before payday so you are not out of pocket.
No biggy

I assume you went back to work from a period of illness just before your pay was affected (so you are paid sick leave for 6 months, but then go down to half pay after 6 months)?

If this is the case the 2 days might have tipped you into the 6 months because it’s calculated over a 12 month period?

You need to check your sick policy and speak to HR about future sick leave implications if this is the case.

Lots of businesses don't allow you to use AL instead of sick leave.

She couldn't if it had gone against policy and potentially gotten her into trouble.

This wouldn't be allowed where I work, sick has to be recorded as sick

£500 take home for 3 days is around 60k full time before tax (I think!). If you're not on anywhere near this then something else has gone wrong.

What does your pay slip say? How many hours? When is pay roll cut off?

She may well have put in AL instead of sick leave but in my company if this is done after pay roll cut off (about 14 days before actual pay day) then that money will only come in the next pay slip

@Purplewarrior if the employee asks to take it as annual leave and the employer agrees then it's legal for it to be changed from sick leave to annual leave. It also means the employee would get their normal pay rather than SSP which is lower (if that's what they company offers)

From .gov website:

An employee can ask to take their paid holiday for the time they’re off work sick. They might do this if they do not qualify for sick pay, for example. Any rules relating to sick leave will still apply

Employers cannot force employees to take annual leave when they’re eligible for sick leave.

Stackable offence for management to record sick leave as annual leave where I work.
If she has done it then you have complained your manager could have been disciplined

Right...so losing £500 is just for those 2 days? In which case my first comment stands

Sorry just seen it’s 2 days in which case you’d need to be on about £30 an hour

If the employer has been told that the employee is sick and unable to work, they may be eligible for SSP. Once the employer is claiming that, it can be considered fraudulent to then withhold those funds from the employee and give them annual leave instead.

It also could cause the employer difficulties if it later came to light at Employment Tribunal that they had not kept proper records of an employee’s sickness. For example, if that absence was related to a disability.

Surely if you feel ill but don’t want to take sick leave, you just phone up and ask to take an emergency annual leave day. No explanation needed or just lie that you have to do emergency child care or take a parent to a medical appointment?

£500 down for three days suggests you are on at least £20 an hour. If you aren’t then there’s something else amiss. Check your payslip.

It is perfectly legal to have annual leave on sick leave. Dont know why people are saying otherwise. Depends on your company policies I suppose.

https://www.acas.org.uk/checking-sick-pay/sick-pay-and-holiday-pay

My DF was having treatment for serious illness that took very long time, we spoke to HR asking to book some of it as AL and they said they could not do it by law (UK). I must say they were very supportive with my DF illness and taking time off to recover so they weren't being difficult or just saying ig out of spite)

It isn't. My LM has done this for me previously.

Its your fault for telling them that you were ill.

Its not OK for staff to feel pressurised to use their leave for sick. At my place managers putting sick in as AL would face a disciplinary

So the £500 isn't because of the just the 2 days so slightly irrelevant to your question as you would have been down on your usual amount anyway because of long term sick.

As others have said, you may not have been allowed to do it, but your manager should have warned you ahead of pay day, do you not get your payslip a few days before pay day?