Is it the begining of the end for Weight loss injections?

I know OP, they are fucking terrible things. I hate seeing all these fat people get thin because it makes me jealous and resentful. I loved being a thin person amongst the fatties.😜

I am confused about how people who aren't overweight (or don't meet the BMI level) are accessing these drugs. It baffles me. I could see more regulation certainly.

@Tattiana can you explain what’s irresponsible and not sensible about choosing to take WLI long term to maintain a healthy weight?

They do put a lot of addictive things into food, that is for sure.

Yeah. It is up to them. I’m just saying that this picture that is painted of responsible, sensible use is not the reality for everyone.

Im also a size 14 and 5'1. It IS obese with a BMI of 30+. You might not like the word but it's a fact. I was a BMI 39 when I started MJ 8 months ago which is morbidly obese. I'm losing slowly and steadily, on a low dose. My blood results are miles better and I feel much more capable and likely to do something active. I think we absolutely have lost sight of a healthy body and see those with them as "thin". Modern life with its cars, sedentary jobs and quick, easily available, UPF food is ruining us as a society. Watch Call the Midwife..see what those cycling all day women had for a meal, a couple of lettuce leaves, half a scotch egg and tomato. Now it's mid morning caramel lattes and a muffin, with no exercise.

@Tattiana planning on taking WLI long term is a reasonable choice for some people. It’s their choice, their money and their health. If it works for them, then fine. What is the issue with people making that choice for their own health?

The pharmacists DON'T monitor at all though. They just hand these drugs to us at the counter

Pharmacists are medication specialists. Much better to be monitored by a specialist than a general practitioner who may have no experience in this area.

“What about the long term effects “
WL medication may be new in that it’s now widely available for those who would benefit
but actually been around for decades -
we do know the long term effects

https://www.aaas.org/news/innovators-glp-1-obesity-bhaumik-breakthrough

But that’s a separate problem surely. Lying to buy drugs or buying drugs illegally.

The rules around prescribing medication online have been tightened up since WLI started becoming more and more popular. At the start, not all providers required photos. Now they do, usually ‘live’ photos that are taken on the provider platform and are difficult to fake.

It does seem to only be weight loss injections where people are so concerned about their use / side effects / being used to treat obesity which wasn't their original use etc. I take Gabapentin and will probably need to take it forever. It was first licensed for use in the UK in 1993 and I take it for a condition for which is wasn't originally intended for. Because this is how many medications work. Often they have other uses! I don't think I've ever seen any other medication so scrutinised as GLP-1s and that's because people really dislike fat people finally being able to do something to treat their medical condition of obesity.

Yeah I’m quite sure they have lied. But the point I suppose is that it shouldn’t be that easy to do that. I’m not a sceptic of these drugs at all if they are used correctly but I don’t think the controls and checks are stringent enough and that’s irresponsible.

I also know that a lot of people on here who take them say that they are committed to changing habits, exercising, eating properly etc. This may be the case but again, it’s not what I’m seeing in real life. What I’m seeing in real life are people who are eating next to nothing to try and maximise the weight loss at the fastest possible rate. They know it’ll go back on if they stop…so they don’t plan to stop.

Even people who get them through their GP can see it that way. People viewed gastric band the same way. You can't control how people see it.

Then they have lied and falsified their info or are buying from illegal sources. If someone only needs to lose 1-2 stone they will not of an obese BMI. The OP keeps talking about diabetes Vs cosmetic reasons, as though there is nothing else. So many other conditions go along with obesity that can be helped by losing the 3+ stone you'd need. Most people on WLI have tried many other methods ..no-one is enjoying spunking £150-200 pm on jabs. I AM enjoying, for the first time in 20 years seeing results from the constant monitoring of dietary intake that is no different now than it was when I was doing it "properly".

Look you’re talking to someone with pcos. Weight loss drugs are great but I’m afraid some people see them as this perfect panacea. Committing to being on weight loss drugs for life is a very very big decision. I am not able to eat carbs as it completely messes up my weight loss. I am happy people have found things which work for them. I have a friend who has been in and out of hospital with digestive issues as a result of the jabs. I wish everyone well with their healthy journey. But I think it’s dangerous to view the jabs as some sort of shortcut to health.

Because everyone is different.Everyone reacts to drugs differently.

I am not thinking abut your personal situation. I am thinking about MY personal situation. I became very sick on Mounjaro. I have stopped taking it, I still feel extremely weak, and I have very low energy. I have also developed an eye twitch. My hands also have a weaker grip. I am concerned about what I did to myself

👏🏻 and those people always look ‘terrible’! It’s so boring

The tick boxes that... ask about you current health? In 10 months I've never yet been able to get Mounjaro without answering questions about my current health.

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The improvements in my health, from being able to sleep lying down like a normal person, to being able to put weight on my feet like a normal person when I get up in the morning, have been life changing. Why people can't just be happy about that I don't know.

They could have looked at me and asked me about my current health.

I just had to quickly tick boxes and I was given mounjaro straight away.

Also when you apply online, they ask you to send in a photo of your weight on a weighing scales. I didnt fake my photo, but it would be so extremely easy for anyone to fake that photo online.

What would speaking to someone have changed?

I don't use WLI but a couple of my friends do. They have lost weight, inches off their waists and seen massive improvements in their blood pressure. All those things will improve their health massively and I am thrilled for them.

I made lifestyle changes and it wasn't enough. Exactly the same as when I made changes to deal with anxiety and it wasn't enough.

Some people need more. That's all there is to it.

But it doesnt require an in person consultation.

This is how I bought Mounjaro. I applied online on one of the UK pharmacy websites.

I quickly filled in a form online. It was approved the next day, and I picked up mounjaro the next week. I didn't have to speak to anyone.