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Have I overstepped here and what do I do

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AirheadMonent · 01/01/2026 22:39

I posted about a man sending offensive videos and offensive messages to a woman along with naked pictures. It's a vulnerable person and looking like grooming as she's believing it's a relationship. I contacted the police who won't intervene because she's not complaining.

I put a post on the community Facebook page asking if anyone knows a man by the name of (and then gave his nickname). No other information than that. A woman replied saying it's her dad. She's private messaged me asking if everything is ok.

What would you do?

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AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 11:09

@IwishIcouldconfess Diabetic retinopathy and cataracts. She can only see her phone and Kindle properly. Refused treatment because of fear of operations. Can't see to get around the house and is in danger of falling downstairs. She uses a cane. That got much worse during the summer.

She has mobility problems owing to serious illness. I think there's some laziness but the health issues trump that.

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mzpq · 03/01/2026 11:09

OP, you keep wilfully ignoring these questions...

"Why is she showing you naked photos and videos of him, and is she aware you went to the police?"

Also, why do you think she told you he'd like you to get involved in the naked Facetime?

If you don't think that was her testing the water with you, I think you're the extremely naive one here.

IwishIcouldconfess · 03/01/2026 10:49

AirheadMonent · 02/01/2026 23:29

A vulnerable adult refers to a person who is 18 years of age or older and lacks the functional, mental, or physical capacity to independently care for themselves. Additionally, it can describe someone who is unable to safeguard themselves from substantial harm or exploitation.

I looked up the definition of a vulnerable adult on our local government website and the definition is above.

She's unable to cook, clean the house, take care of herself. She can manage to do some laundry and tumble drying but not put it away. She can't do washing up. She was living on Quavers, jam and cream crackers before the hospital stay and carers coming in. They now give her microwave meals, sandwiches and instant porridge. There was a rats' nest in the kitchen. Droppings in the cookware. Mould in the bedroom. Spiders' webs and dust. She's been using a commode until recently (the boyfriend, as someone called him, wanted to see her on that too)

Why is she unable to do these things - if she can do laundry - she can put it away or does she just not want to do it? Why can't she wash up, she can eat as you say she eats crap so she has dexterity. Is she just lazy/dirty?

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 10:12

PollyBell · 03/01/2026 08:54

Just because someone doesn't act the way you have decided doesn't make them the most overused word on here 'vulnerable'

What would you call her then @PollyBell given the information about her being incapable of doing so much and the house being a biohazard? The house got into this state because of physical limitations and depression causing her to sit doing nothing except talking to strangers online and having quiz shows on TV on a loop.

“Adults at risk of harm”
We have now moved away from the terminology of ‘vulnerable adults’ towards ‘adults at risk of harm’, usually shortened to ‘adults at risk’ in policies and procedures. There may also be reference to an ‘adult with a care and support need’.

I found this ⏫ when I looked up some information from a charity just now.

The fridge was full of rancid food spills and out of date stuff. Black mould in the washing machine. Sofas caked in makeup she'd used as fake tan. Garden a shambles and attracting rats. Grease all over the cooker and kitchen floor. Filthy toilet.

When she discussed the selection box of men with me some years ago (that's how long it's been going on, 5 years) she said she "can't help it". She was moaning about these guys and asking for advice but then getting upset with me and her sister (who lives 7 hours away) when we told her what we thought about them. "Can't help it" equals inability to make good decisions. I get that she's entitled to make lousy choices but it feels I'm going to have to sit back and let her make them.

Every single man she's been in touch with has either asked for money or sexual images or both, or future faked her, because they can sense she's so needy for attention.

If she's not an "adult at risk of harm" then I don't know what is.

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PollyBell · 03/01/2026 08:54

Just because someone doesn't act the way you have decided doesn't make them the most overused word on here 'vulnerable'

BinNightTonight · 03/01/2026 08:49

AirheadMonent · 02/01/2026 23:29

A vulnerable adult refers to a person who is 18 years of age or older and lacks the functional, mental, or physical capacity to independently care for themselves. Additionally, it can describe someone who is unable to safeguard themselves from substantial harm or exploitation.

I looked up the definition of a vulnerable adult on our local government website and the definition is above.

She's unable to cook, clean the house, take care of herself. She can manage to do some laundry and tumble drying but not put it away. She can't do washing up. She was living on Quavers, jam and cream crackers before the hospital stay and carers coming in. They now give her microwave meals, sandwiches and instant porridge. There was a rats' nest in the kitchen. Droppings in the cookware. Mould in the bedroom. Spiders' webs and dust. She's been using a commode until recently (the boyfriend, as someone called him, wanted to see her on that too)

Sorry, but I stand by my view that this lady COULD lack capacity due to her mental health illnesses and it COULD be talked over with adult social care. This is wild neglect.

BinNightTonight · 03/01/2026 08:45

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 02/01/2026 23:12

No you are definitely implying depressed people can't consent

Neglecting her diabetes and sending money to men does not make her vulnerable. Plenty of people do stupid things. It doesn't make them vulnerable

I dont think theres much point trying to reason with this comment 😂

Again, youre attempting massive hyperbole to make my comments seem ridiculous, even though sometimes, some people with depression do struggle with executive function for example. (Note the "some" and "sometimes")

I am implying that sometimes SOME people with depression cannot consent to certain things SOME of the times. Not all the time, not for every single situation. However, here we do not know whether the friend can consent or not.

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 00:39

BlackCatDiscoClub · 02/01/2026 23:57

I see what you are saying, but her having a physical disability, carers or depression doesn't mean she cant do phone sex with someone. He sounds absolutely disgusting, and of course you want better for her. But that last sentence about harm or exploitation - that doesn't mean if someone is going to hurt her by dumping her one day. If you think he might be selling photos shes sending, or is planning to pimp her out, or to con her out of money, then these are genuine concerns but the police will need more than a hunch that this is happening in order to act on it.

No that's not what I meant by exploitation. This is someone who overshares with men who've taken advantage of the fact.

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BlackCatDiscoClub · 02/01/2026 23:57

AirheadMonent · 02/01/2026 23:29

A vulnerable adult refers to a person who is 18 years of age or older and lacks the functional, mental, or physical capacity to independently care for themselves. Additionally, it can describe someone who is unable to safeguard themselves from substantial harm or exploitation.

I looked up the definition of a vulnerable adult on our local government website and the definition is above.

She's unable to cook, clean the house, take care of herself. She can manage to do some laundry and tumble drying but not put it away. She can't do washing up. She was living on Quavers, jam and cream crackers before the hospital stay and carers coming in. They now give her microwave meals, sandwiches and instant porridge. There was a rats' nest in the kitchen. Droppings in the cookware. Mould in the bedroom. Spiders' webs and dust. She's been using a commode until recently (the boyfriend, as someone called him, wanted to see her on that too)

I see what you are saying, but her having a physical disability, carers or depression doesn't mean she cant do phone sex with someone. He sounds absolutely disgusting, and of course you want better for her. But that last sentence about harm or exploitation - that doesn't mean if someone is going to hurt her by dumping her one day. If you think he might be selling photos shes sending, or is planning to pimp her out, or to con her out of money, then these are genuine concerns but the police will need more than a hunch that this is happening in order to act on it.

AirheadMonent · 02/01/2026 23:29

A vulnerable adult refers to a person who is 18 years of age or older and lacks the functional, mental, or physical capacity to independently care for themselves. Additionally, it can describe someone who is unable to safeguard themselves from substantial harm or exploitation.

I looked up the definition of a vulnerable adult on our local government website and the definition is above.

She's unable to cook, clean the house, take care of herself. She can manage to do some laundry and tumble drying but not put it away. She can't do washing up. She was living on Quavers, jam and cream crackers before the hospital stay and carers coming in. They now give her microwave meals, sandwiches and instant porridge. There was a rats' nest in the kitchen. Droppings in the cookware. Mould in the bedroom. Spiders' webs and dust. She's been using a commode until recently (the boyfriend, as someone called him, wanted to see her on that too)

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BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 02/01/2026 23:12

BinNightTonight · 02/01/2026 21:42

Jesus. "Can and does" does not equal every single depressed person ever. We are talking about this one individual who is housebound, has carers and has shown herself as vulnerable (ie by neglecting herself and sending money to nefarious individuals)

Such a ridiculous question set to minimise what I'm saying.

No you are definitely implying depressed people can't consent

Neglecting her diabetes and sending money to men does not make her vulnerable. Plenty of people do stupid things. It doesn't make them vulnerable

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 02/01/2026 23:09

AirheadMonent · 02/01/2026 21:40

It's not discussing HER sex life or wanting to control her or stop her having a relationship. It's about HIM.

When I was a teenager I had a crush on a 19 year old. I met up with him accidentally over 15 years later and we went on a handful of dates. I got an uncomfortable feeling about him that I couldn't place and ended it after he was verbally abusive. He went ballistic and sent me bullying messages. Five years later he's in the papers for possession of images of child abuse and bestiality. So I'm well aware of weirdos and what they do and how they're in plain sight and how these things escalate and why I'm so involved or invested and unhinged and interfering concerned.

I wish she would have a good supportive relationship. Not a virtual one with a married father who's taking the piss out of his family and which many people on here seem to think is absolutely fine. Would you be cool with your husband doing this, saying he's entitled to a sex life?

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You just keep adding stuff to this

And it is about HER

Because SHE is encouraging the relationship

MCF86 · 02/01/2026 21:57

a married father who's taking the piss out of his family and which many people on here seem to think is absolutely fine. Would you be cool with your husband doing this, saying he's entitled to a sex life?

Not at all, he's a total sleazeball. But so is your friend, going by the way she likes to tell you about it all!

AirheadMonent · 02/01/2026 21:49

Holdonforsummer · 02/01/2026 21:46

If your friend has mental capacity, you need to butt out OP.

As I said up thread I am going to do that. They can get on with it and I'm scaling back time spent with her too.

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Holdonforsummer · 02/01/2026 21:46

If your friend has mental capacity, you need to butt out OP.

YourWildAmberSloth · 02/01/2026 21:43

AirheadMonent · 01/01/2026 23:28

That's not the point. The focus for me is him not her.

He's on social media making remarks about women and their bodies. He's a weirdo.

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But that was your question OP - 'Have I overstepped?' Given your information about why you think your friend is vulnerable, this poster is saying that you have overstepped and I agree. Your friend knows the situation but has chosen to get to involved with him regardless. Not ideal but she's an adult and make that choice.

BinNightTonight · 02/01/2026 21:42

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 02/01/2026 21:36

So people with depression can't consent to sex?

Jesus. "Can and does" does not equal every single depressed person ever. We are talking about this one individual who is housebound, has carers and has shown herself as vulnerable (ie by neglecting herself and sending money to nefarious individuals)

Such a ridiculous question set to minimise what I'm saying.

AirheadMonent · 02/01/2026 21:40

It's not discussing HER sex life or wanting to control her or stop her having a relationship. It's about HIM.

When I was a teenager I had a crush on a 19 year old. I met up with him accidentally over 15 years later and we went on a handful of dates. I got an uncomfortable feeling about him that I couldn't place and ended it after he was verbally abusive. He went ballistic and sent me bullying messages. Five years later he's in the papers for possession of images of child abuse and bestiality. So I'm well aware of weirdos and what they do and how they're in plain sight and how these things escalate and why I'm so involved or invested and unhinged and interfering concerned.

I wish she would have a good supportive relationship. Not a virtual one with a married father who's taking the piss out of his family and which many people on here seem to think is absolutely fine. Would you be cool with your husband doing this, saying he's entitled to a sex life?

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BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 02/01/2026 21:36

BinNightTonight · 02/01/2026 20:45

And actually, depression itself can and does affect cognition, ie decision making and executive function.

So people with depression can't consent to sex?

BinNightTonight · 02/01/2026 20:58

I dont think anyone is saying this lady is engaging in illegal activity 😂

BinNightTonight · 02/01/2026 20:57

StartingFreshFor2026 · 02/01/2026 20:51

It's quite unusual for it to affect your legal mental capacity though.

I do see a problem in an informal chat based on what's said so far. It's embarrassing and undignified for this woman. Would you like it if a disingenuous moralising friend informally discussed your sex life with social services?

Falling for a scam doesn't mean you don't have capacity to make decisions in your private sex life.

The disingenuous friend seems like the only person this lady has who isnt exploiting her (other than paid professionals)

We cant comment on whether her mental health illness has affected her capacity, ability to function or not etc, as we haven't met her (and I'm not a doctor!) I think that is the point, we dont know and assuming in situations like this can have unfortunate circumstances.

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 02/01/2026 20:55

StartingFreshFor2026 · 02/01/2026 20:51

It's quite unusual for it to affect your legal mental capacity though.

I do see a problem in an informal chat based on what's said so far. It's embarrassing and undignified for this woman. Would you like it if a disingenuous moralising friend informally discussed your sex life with social services?

Falling for a scam doesn't mean you don't have capacity to make decisions in your private sex life.

Absolutely, ops dis approval doesn’t meant does not mean illegal activity!

StartingFreshFor2026 · 02/01/2026 20:51

BinNightTonight · 02/01/2026 20:45

And actually, depression itself can and does affect cognition, ie decision making and executive function.

It's quite unusual for it to affect your legal mental capacity though.

I do see a problem in an informal chat based on what's said so far. It's embarrassing and undignified for this woman. Would you like it if a disingenuous moralising friend informally discussed your sex life with social services?

Falling for a scam doesn't mean you don't have capacity to make decisions in your private sex life.

BinNightTonight · 02/01/2026 20:45

And actually, depression itself can and does affect cognition, ie decision making and executive function.

BinNightTonight · 02/01/2026 20:43

StartingFreshFor2026 · 02/01/2026 20:33

An example of a 'vulnerable' person in this scenario would be someone with a significant intellectual disability who couldn't reasonably understand the situation because of serious cognitive impairment. Or someone with advanced dementia. Or someone with a history of being sectioned for psychotic episodes who is showing potential indicators of mania or psychosis. Or someone with a serious drug habit who is potentially engaging in sexual acts for money so that they can afford to eat...

I understand, I have worked in one of those areas most of my adult life. One of the posts does say that she has sent money to individuals, and she does have diagnosed mental health issues, not psychosis or a cognitive impairment, granted. I dont see the issue in an informal chat. This person is house bound, neglectful of herself, struggling with her mental and physical health to the degree she has carers, I would class that as potentially vulnerable, thus worth a chat with services.