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Have I overstepped here and what do I do

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AirheadMonent · 01/01/2026 22:39

I posted about a man sending offensive videos and offensive messages to a woman along with naked pictures. It's a vulnerable person and looking like grooming as she's believing it's a relationship. I contacted the police who won't intervene because she's not complaining.

I put a post on the community Facebook page asking if anyone knows a man by the name of (and then gave his nickname). No other information than that. A woman replied saying it's her dad. She's private messaged me asking if everything is ok.

What would you do?

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AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 23:32

@BinNightTonight by service user, in this instance would that mean the friend I'm talking about?

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fatphalange · 03/01/2026 23:19

BinNightTonight · 03/01/2026 20:08

The adult safeguarding team at the council, one of their examples of abuse is:
Self- neglect: this covers a wide range of behaviour - neglecting to care for one’s personal hygiene, health or surroundings and includes behaviours such as hoarding.
Which could fit.

When I've dealt with them at work, if they are concerned and want to take it further, they will always ask us to inform the service user first that a discussion/referral has been made (obviously there are occasions when that would be unsafe or not possible) I know in this scenario there is no service user and it is a friend.

Yeah I’ve never been asked by ASG to communicate there’s even been a referral let alone by who. To put the burden on the concerned party would mean many would be put off. Maybe it’s different in your experience because of your professional capacity.

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 23:02

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 03/01/2026 22:55

OP only just stated them because she's trying to make herself look better

I don't need to try to look "better" thanks. How does giving an explanation make me look better anyway, exactly? It doesn't really make sense.

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BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 03/01/2026 22:55

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 13:57

But none of those descriptions point to a vulnerable person. They could be consequences of being vulnerable or of being lazy and unclean in general.
Whereas the post I quoted outlines vulnerabilities, which is why I asked why she didn’t just state them in the first place 🙄 I think you have missed the point of my post entirely.

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OP only just stated them because she's trying to make herself look better

BinNightTonight · 03/01/2026 20:08

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 18:42

Informal chat with who and which services are you referring to which function like that? In case OP takes up your advice.

The adult safeguarding team at the council, one of their examples of abuse is:
Self- neglect: this covers a wide range of behaviour - neglecting to care for one’s personal hygiene, health or surroundings and includes behaviours such as hoarding.
Which could fit.

When I've dealt with them at work, if they are concerned and want to take it further, they will always ask us to inform the service user first that a discussion/referral has been made (obviously there are occasions when that would be unsafe or not possible) I know in this scenario there is no service user and it is a friend.

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 18:42

BinNightTonight · 03/01/2026 17:20

I'm not schooling you on anything, its a discussion forum and we're adults. You said there could be vulnerabilities or they could be lazy, and I agree, there could be vulnerabilities, which, for me, would be enough for an informal chat, ie relaying the facts with no personal details.

If services took this any further and said this is something theyd like to explore and asked for a name and DOB, they would explicitly ask OP to let her friend know she had been referred.

Informal chat with who and which services are you referring to which function like that? In case OP takes up your advice.

BinNightTonight · 03/01/2026 17:20

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 15:30

The OP, in the post I quoted her in, did in fact state the exact difficulties which led to the house being in a dirty state. Which again, is why I asked her why she didn’t just state them in the first place instead of going into gross detail about her so-called mate.
I don’t really know what you think you’re schooling or correcting me on with this?

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I'm not schooling you on anything, its a discussion forum and we're adults. You said there could be vulnerabilities or they could be lazy, and I agree, there could be vulnerabilities, which, for me, would be enough for an informal chat, ie relaying the facts with no personal details.

If services took this any further and said this is something theyd like to explore and asked for a name and DOB, they would explicitly ask OP to let her friend know she had been referred.

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 15:59

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 15:44

I didn’t ask you to go into detail 🫣 I was actually saying you didn’t need to go into all the sordid detail about the house, pots, pans, toilet, laundry, horrible food, etc etc etc when you couldn’t just said ‘Vision and mobility issues mean she can’t carry about daily tasks or look after herself’. Or something. Whatever.

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And then I'd be told to elaborate, or be told it doesn't add up to vulnerability. Nobody knows her so it doesn't really matter anyway.

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AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 15:58

tuvamoodyson · 03/01/2026 15:58

When OP’s don’t get the answers they like…the stories get more and more dramatic!

What are you suggesting?

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tuvamoodyson · 03/01/2026 15:58

Manxexile · 02/01/2026 00:25

He's suggested you should join in?

And you didn't think that that was significant enough to mention in one of your many earlier posts?

When OP’s don’t get the answers they like…the stories get more and more dramatic!

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 15:44

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 15:39

I didn't go into detail in the first place because the post would have been pages and pages.

I didn’t ask you to go into detail 🫣 I was actually saying you didn’t need to go into all the sordid detail about the house, pots, pans, toilet, laundry, horrible food, etc etc etc when you couldn’t just said ‘Vision and mobility issues mean she can’t carry about daily tasks or look after herself’. Or something. Whatever.

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 15:39

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 15:30

The OP, in the post I quoted her in, did in fact state the exact difficulties which led to the house being in a dirty state. Which again, is why I asked her why she didn’t just state them in the first place instead of going into gross detail about her so-called mate.
I don’t really know what you think you’re schooling or correcting me on with this?

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I didn't go into detail in the first place because the post would have been pages and pages.

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fatphalange · 03/01/2026 15:30

BinNightTonight · 03/01/2026 14:28

I think thats the point... "They COULD be consequences of being vulnerable." You or i cant decide that. Hence why the poster has debated contacting services to discuss the situation.

The OP, in the post I quoted her in, did in fact state the exact difficulties which led to the house being in a dirty state. Which again, is why I asked her why she didn’t just state them in the first place instead of going into gross detail about her so-called mate.
I don’t really know what you think you’re schooling or correcting me on with this?

BinNightTonight · 03/01/2026 14:28

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 13:57

But none of those descriptions point to a vulnerable person. They could be consequences of being vulnerable or of being lazy and unclean in general.
Whereas the post I quoted outlines vulnerabilities, which is why I asked why she didn’t just state them in the first place 🙄 I think you have missed the point of my post entirely.

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I think thats the point... "They COULD be consequences of being vulnerable." You or i cant decide that. Hence why the poster has debated contacting services to discuss the situation.

Jinglejells · 03/01/2026 14:14

Who decided she’s vulnerable? Being diabetic is not? Making bad relationship choices is not. And many many people are depressed. Why can’t she just block him?

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 13:57

AndreaMarvell · 03/01/2026 12:42

I think the OP said that to emphasise that the lady is indeed a vulnerable adult as so many posters seem to think she is not. I think your choice of description "scruffy mare" is horrible.

But none of those descriptions point to a vulnerable person. They could be consequences of being vulnerable or of being lazy and unclean in general.
Whereas the post I quoted outlines vulnerabilities, which is why I asked why she didn’t just state them in the first place 🙄 I think you have missed the point of my post entirely.

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 13:11

HELLSBELLS2026 · 03/01/2026 12:47

If you don't want to speak to people who know this guy why did you post on sm if she is housebound how did these two meet I would say you def overstepped the mark and lost any moral high ground when you posted on sm you outed him and your friend I would step back and let them get on with it n stop interfering

All your questions can be answered by reading the thread, starting with post #3. I've not outed him and I've not outed my friend.

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HELLSBELLS2026 · 03/01/2026 12:47

If you don't want to speak to people who know this guy why did you post on sm if she is housebound how did these two meet I would say you def overstepped the mark and lost any moral high ground when you posted on sm you outed him and your friend I would step back and let them get on with it n stop interfering

AndreaMarvell · 03/01/2026 12:42

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 12:36

Why did you not just say this instead of detailing her squalid living conditions, making her sound like a scruffy mare? Are you sure you like this woman? It sounds like you cannot stand her.

I think the OP said that to emphasise that the lady is indeed a vulnerable adult as so many posters seem to think she is not. I think your choice of description "scruffy mare" is horrible.

fatphalange · 03/01/2026 12:36

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 11:09

@IwishIcouldconfess Diabetic retinopathy and cataracts. She can only see her phone and Kindle properly. Refused treatment because of fear of operations. Can't see to get around the house and is in danger of falling downstairs. She uses a cane. That got much worse during the summer.

She has mobility problems owing to serious illness. I think there's some laziness but the health issues trump that.

Why did you not just say this instead of detailing her squalid living conditions, making her sound like a scruffy mare? Are you sure you like this woman? It sounds like you cannot stand her.

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 11:55

... are now thinking of asking his daughter to go through his phone where she can see her fathers masturbation videos!

I am NOT doing that. Try and keep up. The thread has moved on since I said that.

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runningonberocca · 03/01/2026 11:44

AirheadMonent · 01/01/2026 23:20

She's got a history of depression over relationships. All online relationships and she goes into meltdown when she gets blocked, leading her to neglect herself.

She's diabetic and had a long spell in hospital with complications recently. This man tried to show up at the hospital. She focuses on these men and neglects herself. She also has a life limiting illness and won't leave the house and has mobility problems. He's playing on this for sexual kicks.

The other concern is who else he's doing it with and what images he has on his devices.

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She’s not a vulnerable adult just because she makes poor choices and becomes over invested in relationships. Being diabetic with complications does not rob you of your capacity to decide to have a sexual relationship; whether it’s one you approve of or not. She’s clearly up for the attention and the dodgy videos and the naked FaceTime . She knows he’s married.
Step away from this - it’s absolutely none of your business and frankly completely bizarre that you tried to publicly out him on Facebook and are now thinking of asking his daughter to go through his phone where she can see her fathers masturbation videos!
The reason the police won’t do anything is because nothing illegal has happened. Stop infantilising your friend

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 11:35

@mzpq I contacted the police for a welfare check as she was in touch with a string of Nigerian men on Facebook and Telegram. Her neighbour contacted them about her dancing around drunk in the backyard. She told them she was fine and no problem. This was about three years ago. She was embarrassed but as far as I know she's still in touch with one of the African guys. She's told me she doesn't fancy the nappy guy. I think she feels it's attention. Making her feel visible or something.

Her husband left her. He'd met someone else. She said she abhors cheating but when I said she was involved in cheating with nappy guy she said she wasn't bothered.

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mzpq · 03/01/2026 11:27

Ok thanks.

What did you go to the police about in the past?

I really do think as strange as it sounds, this is her only bit of 'happiness'.

If she's into blokes wearing adult nappies, sending her their underpants and watching wanking videos, that's just her 'kink'.

As vile as it sounds, it's obviously what she enjoys and it seems to be taking her away mentally from her illness and the hovel you describe her living in.

You've mentioned twice you wonder what this guy has on his hardrive, and I'd be wondering the same about her to be honest.

AirheadMonent · 03/01/2026 11:13

mzpq · 03/01/2026 11:09

OP, you keep wilfully ignoring these questions...

"Why is she showing you naked photos and videos of him, and is she aware you went to the police?"

Also, why do you think she told you he'd like you to get involved in the naked Facetime?

If you don't think that was her testing the water with you, I think you're the extremely naive one here.

I don't wilfully ignore anything. I do have a life other than sitting on Mumsnet and it's sometimes hard to keep up. I'll answer you now.

She's trying to either shock me or prove someone wants her I guess. She's not testing the water because she knows my views. I've known her all my life.

She's aware I went to the police in the past for advice and thinks it's much ado about nothing. But not this time.

I'm not getting involved any further with this other than a weekly catch up with no discussion about blokes. But I hope people can see it's a real concern for me, not nosiness and interfering.

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