Can I wear fur?

Exactly.

I wouldn’t. I’d be constantly thinking about the horror that the animal went through and its death. I’d also hate to be considered a woman who thinks it’s ok to wear fur and all that entails. I couldn’t legitimise that.

It is not whataboutery as my original post was in reply to a woman who binned a vintage fur and bought a faux fur one instead. Thereby adding to the total sum of dead animals in the world.

No, I wasn't born yesterday. Do try to debate without being so rude and unpleasant.

This thread is about a real fur coat and whether the op should wear it, the answer is no. Slaughtering for fur is abhorrent. Wearing it because it won't bring the poor slaughtered animal back to life is a ridiculous excuse.

You could maybe take your whataboutery and stats and start another unrelated thread about fashion and the environment?

I assume you were not born yesterday and are therefore aware of the disastrous effects of the fashion industry on the environment? There are already numerous campaigns, documentaries and studies available. Charities and people who care about the effects of fashion on the environment have to take on giants like Shein or Inditex. The scale is not comparable to the campaign against the fur industry. Fur trade was never that big and so heavily marketed.

How is it whataboutery to point out that burning a vintage fur won’t bring the animals back to life? The fur farms have been banned in most developed countries, even the largest producers like Norway closed their farms eventually, whereas overproduction of clothing remains one the biggest environmental threat nowadays.

I am not condoning the fur industry but it’s always a better choice for the animals that are still alive on this planet to reuse existing clothing rather than buy new, especially synthetic ones.

https://earth.org/data_visualization/impacts-of-fast-fashion-on-the-environment/

and some more:

https://changingmarkets.org/report/fashions-plastic-paralysis/

I really hope the day when people throw drinks at fake fur as eagerly as at real ones is coming because otherwise we are doomed.

When my Nanna died we put her fur coat in the skip. There were a few options for it but by far the easiest for us at a really difficult time was just to load it into the skip outside when we were clearing out her house. It never occurred to us once that it should be worn again.

Sounds like you have decided its ok to wear them then.
I wouldn't do it but I think its down to the individual

PETA define it as a co-product in fact, which chimes with what you're saying (I think).

Ah.
The response of the person who didn't want to be told that there's an alternative to binning the skins of dead animals.

You want to wear it and you want us all to tell you it's fine. Aggravating when someone suggests something else, isn't it?

'How do you think faux fur is made? Do you think there is no pollution involved?'

Well campaign to stop fake fur production then! For some posters to argue that pollution caused by manufacturing of fake fur compares to inhumane conditions and horrific slaughter in the production of revolting real fur coats is whataboutery gone mad.

No. You can't wear a notice to say these are vintage so it's ok. The wearing of fur? Absolutely unacceptable, for me at least.

How do you think faux fur is made? Do you think there is no pollution involved?

Real fur is worse on immediate visible animal cruelty, I give you that, but by every other metric faux is dreadful. Including long-term environmental harms of the sort that kill animals slowly and painfully.

Its a sad stte of affairs when you can not wear vintage clothing because you're worried how people will treat you.

Yeah. Not a good look. You wouldn't say the same thing about ivory. And that's been banned.
Just awful. The only thing the fur looks good on is the animal it came from.
Photo looks horrendous.

Not sure why you're posting as you seem convinced already it's fine to wear. Vintage fur fuels the fur industry by making it appear acceptable to wear fur therefore creating demand. This is well documented. Thankfully it's now illegal to farm animals for fur in the UK however fur is still sold as fake on the high street and fur is imported. The animals farmed and killed for fur suffer cruelly throughout the process. I can tell real fur and I would absolutely judge anyone for wearing it. It also looks rank when humans wear it and looks much nicer on the animals who died to make it. Burn it.

www.peta.org.uk/blog/vintage-fur/

Allegedly dying form pollution because of fake fur trade (where do you get that from out of interest?) Is not comparable to being kept in horrific conditions then being skinned alive is it?

This. Plus marine life killed after every wash. So sensible.

Don't be ridiculous no matter what time has passed, it'll never be ok 😡

Was coming on to say exactly this! 👏👏

This is a relatively morally neutral way to wear fur but I couldn't do it. To wear something that I knew was the product of intense suffering and cruelty would really distress me. But I don't consume animal products at all so I'm aware not everyone feels this way.

A little while ago there was a flurry of posts on here obviously by the same poster under different names. They were all, "Look at this vintage fur coat - surely this is more ethical than buying a new coat and ohhh, my boyfriend loves me in it."

Turned out she owned a fur shop in London and was trying to normalise the wearing of fur. This OP is giving me the same vibe,

Don't wear it OP. It looks ratty and the poor animal probably had a miserable caged life and a horrendous death, perhaps skinned alive. That's what you're parading if you wear it. Could that feel comfortable under any circumstance?

I'd donate them to an animal charity, orphan animals can use them in their nest. To someone above defending leather, there is no such thing as humane killing for the food chain. They just do a great job hiding the hideous reality. I don't wear leather either, or consume any animal products at all. I know that's not for everyone, but I love and respect animals.

I also find wasting parts of animal because they are undesirable bad.

That is not necessarily true though.
Rabbits are used for meat. Minks were primarily fur but also oil. I guess not much to eat there...
Yes, mink industry was shit, no one can deny that but it's a bit of a farce to say all fur comes from animal that is not eaten or used for anything else while leather is.