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A controversial perspective is that the daily work routines of the wealthy and billionaires can, in many respects, be significantly more stressful than those of the average worker.

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:26

Yes its not as straight forward and yes there are many workers that you could argue do more, but when your guiding and running large businesses and dealing with various people etc,

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:56

anonlawyer · 30/12/2025 11:55

I don’t think you can conflate a billionaire and wealthy. You can be wealthy with much less than a billion and I fully agree that there is an element of risk reward (which is hugely stressful) for many wealthy.

A billionaire will operate their whole life like a business and will be reliant on those around them - take family offices for example, the decision makers are usually employed to make those decisions on behalf of the underlying owners.

There have always been super rich people. I don’t think they are the whole issue and they are often employers of numerous. Our current issues are two fold, previously economically poor countries now want to share in the worlds resources (fair enough) and the printing of money since 2008 by the developed world to shore up general lack of productivity. That money printing has driven up asset value but is purely inflationary. There has been no real asset growth and the result is that assets are increasingly unaffordable for the man on the street. We need to stop taxing risk takers into oblivion - and create environments where the average man on the street can have a good idea, start a business, employ others on a fair wage and earn significantly more than they would if they were one of the employees to take account of the risks they are taking. People talk about late stage capitalism being bad - well it’s down to our administration to put in place an environment where individuals can be competitive and you don’t need huge asset backed wealth to change your own outcome. This is badly expressed but if individuals cannot easily improve life quality sufficiently there is no ambition to do so.

thank you for this

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:56

no comment as its not my area of expertise to research political scandal's

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anonlawyer · 30/12/2025 11:55

I don’t think you can conflate a billionaire and wealthy. You can be wealthy with much less than a billion and I fully agree that there is an element of risk reward (which is hugely stressful) for many wealthy.

A billionaire will operate their whole life like a business and will be reliant on those around them - take family offices for example, the decision makers are usually employed to make those decisions on behalf of the underlying owners.

There have always been super rich people. I don’t think they are the whole issue and they are often employers of numerous. Our current issues are two fold, previously economically poor countries now want to share in the worlds resources (fair enough) and the printing of money since 2008 by the developed world to shore up general lack of productivity. That money printing has driven up asset value but is purely inflationary. There has been no real asset growth and the result is that assets are increasingly unaffordable for the man on the street. We need to stop taxing risk takers into oblivion - and create environments where the average man on the street can have a good idea, start a business, employ others on a fair wage and earn significantly more than they would if they were one of the employees to take account of the risks they are taking. People talk about late stage capitalism being bad - well it’s down to our administration to put in place an environment where individuals can be competitive and you don’t need huge asset backed wealth to change your own outcome. This is badly expressed but if individuals cannot easily improve life quality sufficiently there is no ambition to do so.

InterestedDad37 · 30/12/2025 11:53

I have no doubt that Trump works hard and puts in the hours on Epstein Island but it's quality, not quantity, and his work is as pointless as a toddler hammering a wooden toy with a mallet

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:52

IllAdvised · 30/12/2025 11:49

Are you suggesting that the only alternative to your garbled logic, incomplete sentences and lack of punctuation is AI?

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hows this version :

“It’s not that billionaires ‘work harder’ than the average worker. It’s that the nature of their work involves extremely high‑stakes decisions, constant pressure, and responsibility for thousands of employees. That creates a different kind of stress not necessarily more noble, but undeniably intense.”

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:50

IllAdvised · 30/12/2025 11:49

Are you suggesting that the only alternative to your garbled logic, incomplete sentences and lack of punctuation is AI?

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well unless i suddenly learn to rewrite and write better in an instant then yes, as its much quicker better and faster

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IllAdvised · 30/12/2025 11:49

Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:42

well people moan if its Ai, so instead they have to make do with how i worded it, unless of course people want ai ? cannot have both

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Are you suggesting that the only alternative to your garbled logic, incomplete sentences and lack of punctuation is AI?

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:49

thepariscrimefiles · 30/12/2025 11:46

So pre-Musk and pre-Bezos, half of society wasn't working?

I can't take someone seriously who holds up Elon Musk as someone to admire and emulate.

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who said i was holding them up, i just used them as an example for my point and before them there were other people similar, eg jd rockerfeller with oil etc so society has always had these figures

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:48

Decisionsdecisions1 · 30/12/2025 11:46

But it’s not just about jobs…any jobs. Amazon is notorious for being a poor employer. And for every job they might have created, how many more small businesses have been driven to bankruptcy.

You could say that’s just the way capitalism works but right now outright capitalism isn’t working well for a lot of people.

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that i agree with if we had true capitalism it would be like england during charles dickens and scrooge times etc

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:40

but without people like them , half of society would not be workers

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So pre-Musk and pre-Bezos, half of society wasn't working?

I can't take someone seriously who holds up Elon Musk as someone to admire and emulate.

Decisionsdecisions1 · 30/12/2025 11:46

Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:40

but without people like them , half of society would not be workers

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But it’s not just about jobs…any jobs. Amazon is notorious for being a poor employer. And for every job they might have created, how many more small businesses have been driven to bankruptcy.

You could say that’s just the way capitalism works but right now outright capitalism isn’t working well for a lot of people.

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:44

KabukiNoh · 30/12/2025 11:41

Are you one of these self-styled deep thinkers, OP?

only with ai as then it can keep up and give detailed answers, i would prefer humans but trying to get the sheldon coopers of society to debate with is very rare

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TrumpDerangementSyndrome · 30/12/2025 11:44

Mate - it really isn't. Trust me on this one. It really really isn't.

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:43

TrumpDerangementSyndrome · 30/12/2025 11:42

Dafuq are you on about? Your title is too long and your proposal is enough to cure the hardiest of insomniacs.
Maybe switch to decaf for the rest of the day and lay off the Columbian Marching Powder?

its corporatism and politics for a good debate,

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:42

IllAdvised · 30/12/2025 11:41

I think that poster meant, as I did, ‘Are you normally this incapable of expressing yourself clearly?’

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well people moan if its Ai, so instead they have to make do with how i worded it, unless of course people want ai ? cannot have both

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TrumpDerangementSyndrome · 30/12/2025 11:42

Dafuq are you on about? Your title is too long and your proposal is enough to cure the hardiest of insomniacs.
Maybe switch to decaf for the rest of the day and lay off the Columbian Marching Powder?

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 30/12/2025 11:41

That perspective is not controversial, it is just downright silly.

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:41

Decisionsdecisions1 · 30/12/2025 11:40

But it’s wholly disproportionate. In other words the financial rewards do not reflect the proportionate stress. Of any job.

that i can agree with but part of that is the whole stock market and stocks and shares value combined with their salaries etc

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IllAdvised · 30/12/2025 11:41

Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:40

no, ususally im like penny from big bang theory but at times i like to be leonard type of thinking etc

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I think that poster meant, as I did, ‘Are you normally this incapable of expressing yourself clearly?’

KabukiNoh · 30/12/2025 11:41

Are you one of these self-styled deep thinkers, OP?

Decisionsdecisions1 · 30/12/2025 11:40

But it’s wholly disproportionate. In other words the financial rewards do not reflect the proportionate stress. Of any job.

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:40

GeorgeClooneyshouldhavemarriedme · 30/12/2025 11:38

My heart bleeds for Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk.

but without people like them , half of society would not be workers

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Allthesnowallthetime · 30/12/2025 11:40

How would you know?

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Jonnyenglish · 30/12/2025 11:40

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 30/12/2025 11:39

Are you normally like this?

no, ususally im like penny from big bang theory but at times i like to be leonard type of thinking etc

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theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 30/12/2025 11:39

Are you normally like this?