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MIL gave children gifts from a homeless charity for christmas!

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Jellyworms · 28/12/2025 22:56

Thats it really, just a bit taken aback!

MIL is a strange one at the best of times, always expects but never wants to give. She didnt get my children (her first and only grandchildren aged 2 and 4) anything last year but asked my dh why we didnt gift her anything. Anyway, fast forward to this christmas.

she came over for christmas day with two big paper bags full of toys for both my children, i was shocked as the only thing shes ever brought them is a pair of socks.. children both started opening said gifts when my dd bought me over a piece of paper that was inside to read im assuming thinking it was a christmas card.
i started reading and to my absoloute horror it said “merry christmas from community assosiation” then at the bottom had a box ticked boy x girl x age and packed by x x x

i was absoloutley shocked, didnt make a thing of it until she had left later in the evening when i bought it up to dh. He completley didnt understand the situation and brushed it off.

googled the charity and its a homeless charity for children and adults facing homelessness and fleeing abuse (none of which she is!) no idea how on earth shes wrangled this but im absoloutley seething with anger at her for being so selfish taking from vulnerable children, lying and also not giving two hoots about her grandchildren that she cant even purchase them a gift.
the gifts were gorgeous and worth id say £60 per child easily that people have clearly bought to donate in good will.

What would you do? Do i confront her? Do i tell the chairty?

OP posts:
Jollyhockeystickss · 29/12/2025 11:02

What she did is horrible but you said she has 3 adult children living at home but are they paying rent and bills, maybe she doesnt have any money, maybe they are all taking the mickey out of her, i think your hubby needs to talk to her and see if she has money and if these adults are paying rent and bills, why are they still living with her? Is she paying for all the food?

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 11:02

Coralinescat · 29/12/2025 11:00

Maybe she volunteers for the charity and was gifted them as a thank you for her support if they had surplus gifts left.

That isn't the way that these charities work - they don't have surplus, there are so many people in need

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 11:01

Itsmetheflamingo · 29/12/2025 10:58

How would they know, mum picks up presents, wraps them up, puts a tag “to daughter love mum” and hands to daughter on Xmas day?

that’s the way it’s supposed to work, the gift receiver doesn’t know it’s a charity donation

Yes - but when we buy we wrap them or put them in gift bags - actually the charity asks that you hand in wrapping paper so they check the presents first - but they do come from the parent on the day. Someone else just buys it

Coralinescat · 29/12/2025 11:00

Maybe she volunteers for the charity and was gifted them as a thank you for her support if they had surplus gifts left.

IPM · 29/12/2025 10:59

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 10:57

I'm not talking about food banks when I used the word referred. I'm aware that there are food banks that people need to be referred to and ones that you don't need referred to

I was talking about a charity that I buy gifts for for people in need. They need to be referred - by social work or hospitals or other agencies.

The gifts go directly to the parent or guardian via the charities - it would not happen that someone would be able to access presents that other people bought to give to grandkids - just because they use a food bank

It has to be well run and Co ordinated because there are so many people needing help and they have to make sure that the people getting the gifts are actually in need

Yeah but again all places are different, aren't they?

Some more formal and some less so.

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 10:59

KilkennyCats · 29/12/2025 10:55

Neither would the person receiving the gift know that it had come from a charity
How would that work?

Because the gifts get given to the parent or guardian to hand over. I buy the gifts and put them in gift bags. I don't sign the gift tags. The charity drops the gifts to the parent or guardian and they give them to their kids on Christmas day

EleanorReally · 29/12/2025 10:58

sounds to me that op is most upset about the lack of money mil spent rather than anything else.
perhaps these were offered to her at cost price

Itsmetheflamingo · 29/12/2025 10:58

KilkennyCats · 29/12/2025 10:55

Neither would the person receiving the gift know that it had come from a charity
How would that work?

How would they know, mum picks up presents, wraps them up, puts a tag “to daughter love mum” and hands to daughter on Xmas day?

that’s the way it’s supposed to work, the gift receiver doesn’t know it’s a charity donation

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 10:57

IPM · 29/12/2025 10:51

So there we have it, the OP doesn't actually know.

It's been pointed out many times on the thread that plenty of foodbanks don't require referrals and plenty do.

I'm not talking about food banks when I used the word referred. I'm aware that there are food banks that people need to be referred to and ones that you don't need referred to

I was talking about a charity that I buy gifts for for people in need. They need to be referred - by social work or hospitals or other agencies.

The gifts go directly to the parent or guardian via the charities - it would not happen that someone would be able to access presents that other people bought to give to grandkids - just because they use a food bank

It has to be well run and Co ordinated because there are so many people needing help and they have to make sure that the people getting the gifts are actually in need

TattiePants · 29/12/2025 10:56

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 10:47

Not necessarily - the charity I buy Christmas presents for - the people receiving them have to be referred. Just using a food bank wouldn't qualify them for receiving gifts for third parties

The charity I work for works on a professional referral basis too. Over 80% of our referrals come from statutory services such as health visitors, social workers, early help or schools. Whilst it’s not impossible to lie to these services in order to get help, it’s less likely as there will be an ongoing relationship and many of the professionals regularly visit the family’s homes.

KilkennyCats · 29/12/2025 10:55

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 10:53

I have to say this - but the charity are also at fault here. I donate to a Scottish charity that gives gifts to people who are vulnerable and no way would this ever happen.

The way it is done where I am is that people are referred from various agencies and then the gifts get donated directly to the people in need

Someone would not be allowed just to rock up and say - I need presents. Neither would the person receiving the gift know that it had come from a charity

I would speak to the charity - because clearly they don't have enough safeguards in place to stop people abusing this system

Your MIL may be using a food bank but she's not poor. She doesn't need these gifts - and some people do - badly

Neither would the person receiving the gift know that it had come from a charity
How would that work?

Coralinescat · 29/12/2025 10:55

If she took them under false pretences then clearly it needs looking into.

However, you need to be absolutely certain that she is not genuinely struggling herself.
There could be things she is keeping from you regarding her finances. Sometimes situations are not how they appear on the outside.
If she has been to a foodbank she would have needed a referral for that. They don't just dish it out to anyone. Someone (a professional person) must have assessed her situation at some point and decided she was eligible for support.

Dgll · 29/12/2025 10:55

Pearlstillsinging · 29/12/2025 10:02

Just to clarify; the gvt does NOT run foodbanks. They are charitable organisations of one kind or another, often run by Churches or other Community groups some aligned to the Trussel Trust.
It is weird enough that some me.bers of the population of the 6th richest country in the world are reduced to using foodbanks it would be even weirder if the gvt were running fairbanks, rather than ensuring that people have enough money to live on.

It isn't as simple as that. You are ignoring the upset to people's lives caused by drug addiction, abuse, violence and mental health problems. It isn't just about not having enough money from the government to do your weekly shop. You need emergency stop gaps for people whose lives aren't going well for whatever reason. My brother has ended up temporarily homeless because of severe mental health problems. He has been helped by police, social services and mental health teams but they have to find him first and he has to be a danger to himself or others before they can intervene without his consent. In the meantime charities that give out food and warm drinks probably have helped him. I don't know for sure because he hasn't spoken about it. I always donate to them for the sake of other people's children and siblings though.

ViciousCurrentBun · 29/12/2025 10:54

Not all food banks require referrals from a professional. The Trussell Trust require a referral, indeoendant ones make their own rules. I was on a regional committe for food banks and food projects around 15 years ago. There are currently 2 in my town, one is totally independent and gives food with zero questions asked.

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 10:53

Jellyworms · 28/12/2025 22:56

Thats it really, just a bit taken aback!

MIL is a strange one at the best of times, always expects but never wants to give. She didnt get my children (her first and only grandchildren aged 2 and 4) anything last year but asked my dh why we didnt gift her anything. Anyway, fast forward to this christmas.

she came over for christmas day with two big paper bags full of toys for both my children, i was shocked as the only thing shes ever brought them is a pair of socks.. children both started opening said gifts when my dd bought me over a piece of paper that was inside to read im assuming thinking it was a christmas card.
i started reading and to my absoloute horror it said “merry christmas from community assosiation” then at the bottom had a box ticked boy x girl x age and packed by x x x

i was absoloutley shocked, didnt make a thing of it until she had left later in the evening when i bought it up to dh. He completley didnt understand the situation and brushed it off.

googled the charity and its a homeless charity for children and adults facing homelessness and fleeing abuse (none of which she is!) no idea how on earth shes wrangled this but im absoloutley seething with anger at her for being so selfish taking from vulnerable children, lying and also not giving two hoots about her grandchildren that she cant even purchase them a gift.
the gifts were gorgeous and worth id say £60 per child easily that people have clearly bought to donate in good will.

What would you do? Do i confront her? Do i tell the chairty?

I have to say this - but the charity are also at fault here. I donate to a Scottish charity that gives gifts to people who are vulnerable and no way would this ever happen.

The way it is done where I am is that people are referred from various agencies and then the gifts get donated directly to the people in need

Someone would not be allowed just to rock up and say - I need presents. Neither would the person receiving the gift know that it had come from a charity

I would speak to the charity - because clearly they don't have enough safeguards in place to stop people abusing this system

Your MIL may be using a food bank but she's not poor. She doesn't need these gifts - and some people do - badly

IPM · 29/12/2025 10:51

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 10:47

Not necessarily - the charity I buy Christmas presents for - the people receiving them have to be referred. Just using a food bank wouldn't qualify them for receiving gifts for third parties

So there we have it, the OP doesn't actually know.

It's been pointed out many times on the thread that plenty of foodbanks don't require referrals and plenty do.

neonjumper · 29/12/2025 10:51

This is dreadful and it’s made me so angry. My work is centred around vulnerable communities that rely heavily on food banks and gift donations. These charities are struggling as it is trying to garner donations for the growing number of vulnerable families. I am incensed that she is accessing something she has no need for . She is a horrible individual.

Roobarbtwo · 29/12/2025 10:47

IPM · 28/12/2025 23:18

googled the charity and its a homeless charity for children and adults facing homelessness and fleeing abuse (none of which she is!)

That's not all it is.

"We give our neighbours in need a helping hand through our foodbank, food club, debt and welfare advice and homeless support."

So if she's using the foodbank, she's also entitled to ask for help with presents.

I'm not saying she should, but she will fit the criteria.

Not necessarily - the charity I buy Christmas presents for - the people receiving them have to be referred. Just using a food bank wouldn't qualify them for receiving gifts for third parties

SweetnsourNZ · 29/12/2025 10:46

WillowIvy · 28/12/2025 23:27

I was just going to say this. I volunteer at a community pantry and pantry members are asked to fill in a form in Oct/Nov with ages of children they require gifts for. Foodbanks often need referrals from agencies but pantries are different.

OP your MIL may have 3 adult children living at home and earn a good salary BUT going by the many threads on here that say adult children don’t contribute to the household that may be a factor? She may earn a good salary but is it all spent on supporting these adults that live with her?

As I said earlier if you’re in doubt speak to the charity.

Good point. Some children don't leave home because they have it so good. Also ML could have a secret gambling problem or something.

BringBackCatsEyes · 29/12/2025 10:44

Jellyworms · 29/12/2025 09:57

Yes it is, you can just turn up to our local one on certain days of the week- no refferal needed!

That cannot be one run by a charity. Registered charities have to account for where their food goes. Are you sure this is a food back for those in need and not a food hub/larder run by volunteers to save food going to landfill?

Nanny0gg · 29/12/2025 10:44

Jellyworms · 29/12/2025 09:57

Yes it is, you can just turn up to our local one on certain days of the week- no refferal needed!

That's bonkers! How much food is 'wasted' on those who could afford to buy it?

VIOLETPUGH · 29/12/2025 10:44

She needs outing to the charity and also to the food banks ! She is a greedy weasel, and people should know. Those poor genuine families in need, what a vile women she is. Shame her she deserves it !

SweetnsourNZ · 29/12/2025 10:42

fatphalange · 28/12/2025 23:16

Well done on managing to hide your disgust and outrage, I’m not sure I would’ve been able to. I would ask her how she’d come by these presents that other people had kindly donated and if she’s fully aware they have been stolen out of the hands of the genuinely needy. To give her the benefit of the doubt, there’s a chance the packages had already been taken and offered for sale at a cheap price by some other low life. Either way my questioning of her would make her aware you are fully apprised of what she has done.
Yes to contacting the charity directly as well. If they’ve been deceived by MIL they deserve to know and if there was a theft they can pass on information to the police about where the stolen goods ended up and thanks to who and this might end in the original thief being apprehended.

Yes this. Unfortunately parents and even charity volunteers have been known to sell children's donated presents at the pub, generally to obtain a drug fix. It puts people off donating. Does the charity provide hours for people on community work sentences. This can be another way donations get pilfered.

BionicEar · 29/12/2025 10:42

Am wondering if she actually accesses a food club not a food bank. People often mixes these up.

Food bank are usually referrals only and have a limit how many times a year you can access.

Food clubs tend to be community based where you sign up as a member and pay a small amount such as £4 each time you attend for a bag or two of shopping. Some of these clubs sometimes sell additional items as well for a small amount. They may also give gifts to children for free or a small donation such as at Christmas.

Food clubs aren’t always restricted to people on benefits/set incomes either as the items on offer are either pass use by date or surplus stock. It’s a way of reducing food waste.

BringBackCatsEyes · 29/12/2025 10:41

Jellyworms · 28/12/2025 23:15

She genuinley CAN afford gifts, has a well paid job and no mortgage plus 3 adult working children living at home! Just tight and doesnt want to spend a penny!

She must be lying if she is getting food from the food bank. I volunteer for a Trussell trust food bank. Every client has a record on the computer. They will have been asked a lot of personal details. If she regularly calls to request a food parcel she will have had even more questions asked.
I am very, very surprised she is getting away with this.