To refuse to drive even though I MAY be under limit?

Sounds like you handled everything very sensibly and also have a lovely, very sensible son (and daughter). Glad to see someone holding true to the maxim of "when someone shows you who they are, believe them". Have a lovely new year.

He's a horror. To be clear your only reasonable legal option I would say would have been to wait an hour and a half to ensure the second double drink had metabolised (even then not accurate) and then do two hours of driving in the early hours of the morning for a possibly drunk young person you don't really know. This is what he was asking you and it wasn't being framed like a gargantuan favour, it was something being forced on you and gaslighting you into thinking you were the weird one for objecting and he was not even allowing you the processing time to have half a chance of being under the legal limit - just happy for you to risk your license while at it. Guys a prince. Keep us posted if he's full of remorse tomorrow but I applaud you for getting the fuck out, what else lies beneath with this guy? Scary.

Even if she hadn't had anything to drink she's NBU l. Why should she go and pick up his son?

I'm glad you are safe at home.

My only concern is you shouldn't have hidden his car keys. I understand, and frankly by doing it you showed how much you cared for his wellbeing, but in reality it amounts to theft if he can't find them and new keys are very expensive.

Just to cover all possibilities, I would send him a text letting him know where the keys are and that you only did it because you were afraid he'd drive when he's not allowed to. Simple, to the point, and then block again.

"No" is a full sentence. If I ask you to hold an apple for me and you say "no", you said no. That's consent and that's that. That being said, I also personally agree with you that there is no safe limit, but if the situation were that you wanted to go and he did not, I would also support you on doing what you believe is right because you are an adult and your decisions about yourself are final.

I have not yet read the full thread but wholeheartedly agree with you. I too will not drink alcohol and drive, neither will my husband. In Scotland too, our limit is half that of England. Your DH is entirely unreasonable to risk YOUR licence.

This is very true. Good on you though for sticking to your guns as he probably thought he'd wear you down!

I reported it. The thread has been hidden while they take a look at it.

That's a bit weird, usually that's only done where it would be humorous not on something like this. Can you give us the title so we can report it?

All power to your son for being a hero and picking you up OP. I dont drive but this is a hill I too would die on if I did. You have seen this abusive man in his true colours and had a lucky escape.

Someone has started a thread pretending to be the ex.

The taxi issue has been dealt with in the OP's numerous posts. Quite a few times.

Glad you and your kids worked together to get you home safe. And smart of your son to swap cars so yours wouldn’t get destroyed

Love that he may now be having to hunt for his keys. Although, unless anyone else is insured to drive it they won't be needed. I wonder how soon into next year the weather will be good enough that he will want to use the chair cushions!

Regardless of what you should do, or not, which I won’t get into - the reality is that if you were breathalysed and were over the limit, who would get the ban, him or you?

And that’s why you get to make that decision and no one else. And nobody should be hassling you over that.

Can’t he get a taxi?

OP you are a bloody hero and your kids sound great. What an absolute arse that man is and his entitled child. I’m so glad you got away and dumped him. Well done!

Great news you are safe. Your children sound very good sorts. The whole episode must have been frightening. Harassing somebody who has had quite a few units to risk their licence, especially if living rurally, to pick up his feckless son is just despicable and you are well rid of this man.

So glad to see you are safe at home now. Your son is absolutely fantastic.

This is so refreshing to read. Well done OP. Good riddance to the wee twerp. Showed his true colours and you immediately got shot of him, as it should be.

It would be dire for him if I lost my licence.

Your license isn't the issue, your safety, and the safety of others, is.

You gave him you answer - the only acceptable answer - that should have been the end of it. Well done for standing firm.

Now he's badgering you to the point that you've had to shut yourself away? Personally I'd be leaving his house in that situation.

Not really relevant to this thread, but do Ubers take unaccompanied 15-year-olds in the UK? Here in Australia, they have to be 18.

Signed on, so now two auld Scottish wimmin think he’s a star. And so glad that you’re home safely, @Didntwenearlyhaveitall . Very smart to block DXP (dickhead ex-partner) on all devices and have your children pick up your car. Congrats on the weight loss - down 50-60kg in just a single day! Take A Break will definitely be covering that diet for the New Year 😂

I'm so glad reading to the end to find you got out! You obviously did a fantastic job raising your kids, unlike your very recent ex, and at least he showed you who he really is.

Be a nice added bonus if you have hidden his keys somewhere really obscure so he takes weeks to find them.