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TerrazzoChips · 2025-12-27T21:17:50+00:00

How on earth can this be right? [[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15388599/better-benefits-labour-analysis-graphic.html Link]] it doesn’t include disability benefits but does include housing allowance and childcare costs. But a single earner will also have those? I despair and could honestly cry. I am genuinely considering having another child and dropping my hours. I would be better off. I hate this so much.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/12/2025 21:58

This is my Christmas gift you @TerrazzoChips:
Just because the Daily Mail say something could happen doesn't mean it is happening.

Remember this. It will make you happier and healthier in the future.😊

UncannyFanny · 27/12/2025 21:58

Yay! Yet another tiresome benefits bashing thread! When is MN going to ban these threads? 🙄

MikeRafone · 27/12/2025 21:57

UserFront242 · 27/12/2025 21:54

I don't think it is fair to blame employers for this.
Years ago, a single person on NMW could live alone and have extra for fun. I know because I did it.
It is the cost of living that is to blame.

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Cost of living is tight as wages haven’t kept up with inflation

Mumptynumpty · 27/12/2025 21:56

National Minimum Wage because if employers could pay you less, they would!

MikeRafone · 27/12/2025 21:56

HappyNewTaxYear · 27/12/2025 21:52

Here’s the research, and I don’t think these people are right wing:

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/newsroom/post-budget-research

But imo, the question should be Why are so many jobs so poorly paid?

You should be able to live on the wages from any 35 hours a week job in a developed Western economy, but you can’t.

This is a load of BS

go to entitled to and put in for 3 children in a two parent household with one parent earning NMW full time and see the reality

I worked for a short time with c/tax and HB and people would come in and not understand how little they actually got, then rant that how come everyone else got more 🙈 they don’t get more you’ve swallowed a lie

Coffeeandbooks88 · 27/12/2025 21:56

Truetoself · 27/12/2025 21:51

I remember watching an episode on Stacey Dooley sleeps over where i think the couple had three kids, does not participate in formal education and do not work. I can’t recall what benefits they said they claim but it really infuriates me

They claimed tax credits.

UserFront242 · 27/12/2025 21:54

HappyNewTaxYear · 27/12/2025 21:52

Here’s the research, and I don’t think these people are right wing:

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/newsroom/post-budget-research

But imo, the question should be Why are so many jobs so poorly paid?

You should be able to live on the wages from any 35 hours a week job in a developed Western economy, but you can’t.

I don't think it is fair to blame employers for this.
Years ago, a single person on NMW could live alone and have extra for fun. I know because I did it.
It is the cost of living that is to blame.

HappyNewTaxYear · 27/12/2025 21:52

Here’s the research, and I don’t think these people are right wing:

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/newsroom/post-budget-research

But imo, the question should be Why are so many jobs so poorly paid?

You should be able to live on the wages from any 35 hours a week job in a developed Western economy, but you can’t.

Three-child family in work needs £71,000 a year before tax to match equivalent jobless family – post Budget research - The Centre for Social Justice

Jobless families on combined benefits will now take home £18,000 more per year than the post-tax wages of a working family, following the abolition of the two

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/newsroom/post-budget-research

Truetoself · 27/12/2025 21:51

I remember watching an episode on Stacey Dooley sleeps over where i think the couple had three kids, does not participate in formal education and do not work. I can’t recall what benefits they said they claim but it really infuriates me

MikeRafone · 27/12/2025 21:49

sit corrected! I thought it went directly to the nursery

no because UC is all about empiwering people to pay their own outgoings 🙈 which doesn’t always work well.

VikaOlson · 27/12/2025 21:49

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 27/12/2025 21:45

I sit corrected! I thought it went directly to the nursery.

But hang on, so are you saying that parents entitled to help with childcare funded still don't get it completely funded? Only up to 85%?

Seriously?

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Yes, universal credit pays a percentage, up to about £1000.
If your bill is £1500, £1000 is the max you can get back.

It's separate to the 30 hours funded that many parents get now though.

MikeRafone · 27/12/2025 21:47

Give up work and claim benefits if you think it’s so much better…

Galatine · 27/12/2025 21:46

If I read a story about myself in the Daily Mail and knew it was true. I would still not believe it. Daily Mail and the Truth is the ultimate oxymoron!

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 27/12/2025 21:45

VikaOlson · 27/12/2025 21:40

They would personally see the childcare fees.
They would have to pay their bill upfront, then submit the invoice and receipt to universal credit, who would refund them a proportion of the bill - up to 85% depending on the amount, their earnings etc.

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I sit corrected! I thought it went directly to the nursery.

But hang on, so are you saying that parents entitled to help with childcare funded still don't get it completely funded? Only up to 85%?

Seriously?

Fangisnotacoward · 27/12/2025 21:44

menopausalfart · 27/12/2025 21:30

Let's bring back the poorhouses and really make them suffer. Happy fking Christmas.

"Are there no prisons?... And the Union workhouses?!"

vodkaredbullgirl · 27/12/2025 21:42

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UserFront242 · 27/12/2025 21:41

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 27/12/2025 21:37

Hmmm.

I see the weasel word "equivalent" being used a lot in that article...

In whatever unrealistic, convoluted situation is required for a couple to both work part-time and yet qualify to have three children in funded full-time nursery, you realise that said couple would not personally see a penny of the childcare fees?

So how would this mythical couple be as well off as someone who actually had that much paid into her own bank account? And yet the Daily Mail has bracketed the childcare fees as take home income!

After that, I stopped reading, because the rest of it has to be an equivalent level of bollocks and I have work in the morning.

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I stopped reading when it said benefit claimants will get a "bumper pay packet worth £140k". Absolute bollocks.
I work with a lot of people on benefits. If they can get that much, then can someone post a link as to how they can do so. Thought not.

VikaOlson · 27/12/2025 21:40

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 27/12/2025 21:37

Hmmm.

I see the weasel word "equivalent" being used a lot in that article...

In whatever unrealistic, convoluted situation is required for a couple to both work part-time and yet qualify to have three children in funded full-time nursery, you realise that said couple would not personally see a penny of the childcare fees?

So how would this mythical couple be as well off as someone who actually had that much paid into her own bank account? And yet the Daily Mail has bracketed the childcare fees as take home income!

After that, I stopped reading, because the rest of it has to be an equivalent level of bollocks and I have work in the morning.

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They would personally see the childcare fees.
They would have to pay their bill upfront, then submit the invoice and receipt to universal credit, who would refund them a proportion of the bill - up to 85% depending on the amount, their earnings etc.

MaggieBsBoat · 27/12/2025 21:40

Did you also believe the bs about the money spent on the NHS now we’re out of eu.

elliejjtiny · 27/12/2025 21:38

Yeah, it doesn't work like that. There are very few people that are entitled to huge amounts of benefits and their money mostly goes to a landlord and a nursery/childminder. Although the bit that goes to the nursery/childminder is less than they actually charge per child.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 27/12/2025 21:37

Hmmm.

I see the weasel word "equivalent" being used a lot in that article...

In whatever unrealistic, convoluted situation is required for a couple to both work part-time and yet qualify to have three children in funded full-time nursery, you realise that said couple would not personally see a penny of the childcare fees?

So how would this mythical couple be as well off as someone who actually had that much paid into her own bank account? And yet the Daily Mail has bracketed the childcare fees as take home income!

After that, I stopped reading, because the rest of it has to be an equivalent level of bollocks and I have work in the morning.

JamesClyman · 27/12/2025 21:36

Anyone who believes what they read in the Daily Mail is too stupid to be entrusted with money.

UserFront242 · 27/12/2025 21:31

Despairing and crying. Leave your job and claim benefits. It is that easy. You just tell the Job Centre you are done, and you get £71k in benefits. So so easy.

Please do that and report back.

menopausalfart · 27/12/2025 21:30

Let's bring back the poorhouses and really make them suffer. Happy fking Christmas.

VikaOlson · 27/12/2025 21:29

Octavia64 · 27/12/2025 21:23

Yeah they’ve had to do a lot of messing about to make this work,

in particular three lots of childcare at what looks like the max rate.

A fantasy couple working 30 hours a week each, somehow only earning £10k between them, renting in the most expensive area of the country with 3 year old triplets in nursery with fees of £1k+ per child.