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To be sad they wouldn't tell me directly about the death?

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Aislyn · 27/12/2025 20:52

My aunt died, my mum's sister. My dad phoned me and said 'x is gone'. I asked to speak to my mum, to find out details of the funeral and offer commiserations, but I was told that she was busy. For context she is retired, and had no plans.

I called back later to speak to her, and I was told that she had guests and couldn't speak. The phone was hung up on me.

It turns out the funeral was the next day. I had to find this out from another family member. By the time I found out I couldn't attend as it was abroad and a (reasonably long) flight away.

AIBU to be disappointed about how I was told this, and the lack of care for the death? My mum made no plans to attend the funeral, and prioritised hosting over telling me and siblings (siblings were not told at all until much later, as my mum prioritised hosting: I didn't tell them as it felt inappropriate for the news to be coming from me)

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LongBreath · 28/12/2025 01:13

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 01:02

I already explained why I didn't: because it is hurtful to be given this information second hand.

I am trying to understand, but deeply insensitive replies such as yours are incredibly unhelpful.

But your mother clearly wasn’t going to tell them! You had the option of them being told by you and not being told at all, apparently.

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 01:06

ColdAsAWitches · 28/12/2025 01:02

I have read the thread properly and I haven't misunderstood anything. There was no reason for you not to tell your siblings. You were upset that you hadn't been told and you chose not to tell them, knowing that this too could upset them as there's now an even bigger share of the family keeping things from them. I don't agree with you that it wasn't your place to tell them. I think you made a poor choice in not telling them. This is not me being inaccurate or misguided, it's an opinion. Which you ask for when you start a thread.

Clearly your username is apt.

You are refusing to acknowledge your poor comprehension skills here, or how unbelievably insensitive you are.

What was hurtful, as I explained, was being told this information second hand. I did not want to repeat this, which is why I didn't tell siblings.

I suggest trying to show some compassion, if you are capable.

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ColdAsAWitches · 28/12/2025 01:02

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 00:47

You are completely misunderstanding. What was bizarre was being told by my father, then my mother refusing to talk to me. Telling my siblings, when it wasn't my place to, would have repeated this. I suggest reading the thread carefully before making inaccurate and misguided remarks.

I have read the thread properly and I haven't misunderstood anything. There was no reason for you not to tell your siblings. You were upset that you hadn't been told and you chose not to tell them, knowing that this too could upset them as there's now an even bigger share of the family keeping things from them. I don't agree with you that it wasn't your place to tell them. I think you made a poor choice in not telling them. This is not me being inaccurate or misguided, it's an opinion. Which you ask for when you start a thread.

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 01:02

LongBreath · 28/12/2025 00:54

Your take on this strikes me as far odder than your mother’s. It’s deeply strange that you didn’t mention that her experience of death has most often been the murder of family members, and that she’s a refugee — of course that’s going to have an impact on how she experiences an ordinary ‘expected’ death. It may not suit your experience of what’s ‘normal’. It’s not clear why you didn’t tell your siblings when you thought it ‘wasn’t your place’.

I already explained why I didn't: because it is hurtful to be given this information second hand.

I am trying to understand, but deeply insensitive replies such as yours are incredibly unhelpful.

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LongBreath · 28/12/2025 00:54

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 00:47

You are completely misunderstanding. What was bizarre was being told by my father, then my mother refusing to talk to me. Telling my siblings, when it wasn't my place to, would have repeated this. I suggest reading the thread carefully before making inaccurate and misguided remarks.

Your take on this strikes me as far odder than your mother’s. It’s deeply strange that you didn’t mention that her experience of death has most often been the murder of family members, and that she’s a refugee — of course that’s going to have an impact on how she experiences an ordinary ‘expected’ death. It may not suit your experience of what’s ‘normal’. It’s not clear why you didn’t tell your siblings when you thought it ‘wasn’t your place’.

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 00:47

ColdAsAWitches · 28/12/2025 00:38

I think it's odd that your mother didn't tell you, but she has lost her sister, so allowances can be made

I think it's even more bizarre that you're complaining about not being told, but you made the choice not to tell your own siblings! Surely if you're upset at not knowing, you could see that your siblings would feel the same, and they now know there's even more people that chose to keep it quiet! I honestly don't understand your thinking here. It's astounding hypocrisy.

You are completely misunderstanding. What was bizarre was being told by my father, then my mother refusing to talk to me. Telling my siblings, when it wasn't my place to, would have repeated this. I suggest reading the thread carefully before making inaccurate and misguided remarks.

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ColdAsAWitches · 28/12/2025 00:38

I think it's odd that your mother didn't tell you, but she has lost her sister, so allowances can be made

I think it's even more bizarre that you're complaining about not being told, but you made the choice not to tell your own siblings! Surely if you're upset at not knowing, you could see that your siblings would feel the same, and they now know there's even more people that chose to keep it quiet! I honestly don't understand your thinking here. It's astounding hypocrisy.

tipsyraven · 28/12/2025 00:33

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 00:13

Do you think that would explain not going to the funeral, and showing no emotion about the death? I am just trying to understand.

My aunt refused to speak the language of the country she left, no doubt because of the trauma.

I have a family member who was traumatised by a death and he can’t go to any funerals at all and missed his own brother’s for that reason.

LongBreath · 28/12/2025 00:26

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 00:13

Do you think that would explain not going to the funeral, and showing no emotion about the death? I am just trying to understand.

My aunt refused to speak the language of the country she left, no doubt because of the trauma.

I think that if you’ve experienced the mass murder of family members, that it’s certainly likely to have an impact on how you experience the peaceful, expected death in comparative old age of a family member.

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 00:19

Barbluddyhumbug · 28/12/2025 00:11

I think the trauma is the clue here OP. My grandparents fled a mass murdering country but they did not want to talk about what happened and they didn’t want us to talk about it either. They never wanted to go back. Not even in their minds.

In case it isn't clear, none of the family lives in the country they fled from, and the funeral was not in this country.

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Aislyn · 28/12/2025 00:13

Barbluddyhumbug · 28/12/2025 00:11

I think the trauma is the clue here OP. My grandparents fled a mass murdering country but they did not want to talk about what happened and they didn’t want us to talk about it either. They never wanted to go back. Not even in their minds.

Do you think that would explain not going to the funeral, and showing no emotion about the death? I am just trying to understand.

My aunt refused to speak the language of the country she left, no doubt because of the trauma.

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Barbluddyhumbug · 28/12/2025 00:11

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 23:53

There is a backstory of trauma unfortunately. I am not sure how much to go into it as it is a long story (the short of it being that they were all refugees, and experienced huge trauma in their country of origin, including the murder of dozens of family members).

You are right to say concentrate on my cousins. I will do so.

I think the trauma is the clue here OP. My grandparents fled a mass murdering country but they did not want to talk about what happened and they didn’t want us to talk about it either. They never wanted to go back. Not even in their minds.

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 23:53

PermanentTemporary · 27/12/2025 23:49

There sounds as if there’s a huge backstory here. Not attending your sister’s funeral or telling any of her nieces/nephews of her death sounds insanely dysfunctional.

Id concentrate on your cousins. Presumably if it’s a culture that does funerals this quickly there is some sort of provision in the cultural ‘rules’ for people who can’t get there in time? I’d go and see them, or at the very least phone them and write a card.

There is a backstory of trauma unfortunately. I am not sure how much to go into it as it is a long story (the short of it being that they were all refugees, and experienced huge trauma in their country of origin, including the murder of dozens of family members).

You are right to say concentrate on my cousins. I will do so.

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PermanentTemporary · 27/12/2025 23:49

There sounds as if there’s a huge backstory here. Not attending your sister’s funeral or telling any of her nieces/nephews of her death sounds insanely dysfunctional.

Id concentrate on your cousins. Presumably if it’s a culture that does funerals this quickly there is some sort of provision in the cultural ‘rules’ for people who can’t get there in time? I’d go and see them, or at the very least phone them and write a card.

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 23:46

Sparklybutold · 27/12/2025 23:41

Dear OP, I won’t comment on your mum’s reaction as there’s clearly a lot going on there, but the way you were told, and the complete lack of notice meaning you couldn’t possibly attend the funeral, is incredibly poor form.

I’ve been in a similar position. I found out my brother had died 3 years after the fact. When I started telling people, I discovered they’d all known long before me. I’m the scapegoat in a very dysfunctional family, and his death was tied up in a long history of trauma that continues to be brushed aside or minimised. What still stings is that my other brother and his wife, who both called themselves “etiquette coaches”, running actual etiquette lessons, never contacted me at all. Part of my brother’s ashes were scattered on our mum’s grave with no acknowledgement of him being there. I’ve since rectified this.

I’m so sorry for your loss. When families handle things this badly, it adds another layer of hurt on top of the grief. But focusing too much on their ineptitude can get in the way of processing your own feelings. Even though you couldn’t attend the funeral, there are still meaningful ways to honour your aunt. Speaking openly with her children/your cousins might help you feel more connected to her and give you some of the closure you were denied.

I really hope you find a way through this that brings you some peace.

Thank you for your understanding. I haven't been able to speak to my cousins yet as they have understandably been very busy organising the funeral but I hope to soon. We have a good relationship and we have exchanged messages.

Thank you for acknowledging this is hurtful.

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Contycont · 27/12/2025 23:45

My mum dealt with her husband's death in much the same way. I think she believed that she only had to do what she felt was necessary and shouldn't need to think of anyone else. Which is fair in the circumstances but offers to arrange anything or tell extended family were refused. She said she'd do it. She never did. Lots of missed opportunities for closure in my opinion as the bare minimum was done. I think grief can affect people in some really strange ways.

Sparklybutold · 27/12/2025 23:41

Dear OP, I won’t comment on your mum’s reaction as there’s clearly a lot going on there, but the way you were told, and the complete lack of notice meaning you couldn’t possibly attend the funeral, is incredibly poor form.

I’ve been in a similar position. I found out my brother had died 3 years after the fact. When I started telling people, I discovered they’d all known long before me. I’m the scapegoat in a very dysfunctional family, and his death was tied up in a long history of trauma that continues to be brushed aside or minimised. What still stings is that my other brother and his wife, who both called themselves “etiquette coaches”, running actual etiquette lessons, never contacted me at all. Part of my brother’s ashes were scattered on our mum’s grave with no acknowledgement of him being there. I’ve since rectified this.

I’m so sorry for your loss. When families handle things this badly, it adds another layer of hurt on top of the grief. But focusing too much on their ineptitude can get in the way of processing your own feelings. Even though you couldn’t attend the funeral, there are still meaningful ways to honour your aunt. Speaking openly with her children/your cousins might help you feel more connected to her and give you some of the closure you were denied.

I really hope you find a way through this that brings you some peace.

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 23:17

LongBreath · 27/12/2025 23:16

But he could have asked your mother?

She told him she was busy. I couldn't get the information.

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LongBreath · 27/12/2025 23:16

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 22:12

I did ask and he didn't know.

But he could have asked your mother?

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 22:33

Shittyyear2025 · 27/12/2025 22:32

My mum can't travel at the moment due to some treatment she's been having. Could this be something your mum is going through, and her behaviour reflective of not wanting to share her own health issues with you?

That would be an understandable explanation, but there has been no evidence of that. To my knowledge, her health is excellent. She also gave a very callous reason for not going (as above 'she is dead')

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Shittyyear2025 · 27/12/2025 22:32

My mum can't travel at the moment due to some treatment she's been having. Could this be something your mum is going through, and her behaviour reflective of not wanting to share her own health issues with you?

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 22:13

HardworkSendHelp · 27/12/2025 21:26

Could you speak to her and ask her how she would feel if you did that to one of your siblings. Just didn’t bother attending and say they are dead!

I think if I did I would get some deflection/histrionics. I totally get what you mean though.

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Aislyn · 27/12/2025 22:12

LongBreath · 27/12/2025 21:26

Exactly. Plus your dad could presumably have told you about funeral arrangements? Also, isn’t it possibly your siblings blame you for not passing on the news of your aunt’s death? You had your reasons, but those won’t necessarily compute with them.

I did ask and he didn't know.

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LongBreath · 27/12/2025 21:26

DeathStare · 27/12/2025 21:22

People grieve differently. Your mum has lost her sister. Cut her some slack if her grief doesn't look like yours.

Exactly. Plus your dad could presumably have told you about funeral arrangements? Also, isn’t it possibly your siblings blame you for not passing on the news of your aunt’s death? You had your reasons, but those won’t necessarily compute with them.

HardworkSendHelp · 27/12/2025 21:26

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 21:24

No dementia as far as I know. She is very emotionally distant.

Not an Irish funeral but another culture with quick funerals.

Could you speak to her and ask her how she would feel if you did that to one of your siblings. Just didn’t bother attending and say they are dead!