To think Christmas has descended into a pile of landfill?

Just because it's out there, doesn't mean you have to buy it. We don't have any of that stuff.
The more of us that refuse to buy it, the quicker companies will stop bothering.

Yeah, I’m feeling very depressed about it. As a family I thought we were all on the same page. My mum (probably has undiagnosed adhd) shops very impulsively and it has been reigned in, but unfortunately now they have a grandchildren all bets are off!

They did buy lovely things, but also things that, had they stopped to think, they know she already has!

Oh God yes, wandered through tk maxx to buy a friend some gloves, she wanted gloves anf they do nice leather ones sometimes. Turned around and left as couldn’t bear the amounts of shit. I’m guilty of buying my mother in law a wooden/plastic Christmas scene that’ll sit in her attic for 51 weeks of the year…I had presents for her….but I got caught up in the madness!

Honestly you need to worry about other things rather than strangers pyjama buying habits.

As do I. But I am heartily sick of these sanctimonious threads on a loop this year, judging other people and making wild assumptions because it fits their narrative.
'I don't buy new PJs every year but I will pretend everyone else does so I can feel superior about my completely normal behaviour'
This post will probably trigger more from people who know someone who knows someone who works with someone who bins EVERYTHING on January 1.

A lot of people feel very anxious about the state of the planet and plastic waste @Katypp, I don’t think that’s sanctimonious. I also think you’re implying that posters who are complaining about tat are doing so from a place of wealthy privilege and I disagree with that. It’s more just about trying to avoid excess and choosing gifts carefully. Being on a low budget doesn’t have to mean buying from Shein/Temu/B&M.

I hope you’re right.

Re buying multiple pairs of pyjamas…. This is the post I was responding to.

The poster said maybe these people are wearing their Xmas PJs multiple years (so obviously talking about adults since children will not get years of use from one pair of pyjamas). I said they would end up with far too many pairs of PJs.

I have no idea why MNetters continue to be horrified/disgusted/devastated/upset/appalled by Christmas 'tat destined for landfill' as there has been a thread like this running more or less daily since October.
I have not read this thread, only the first page as I don't need to. They are all the same.
OP feigns wide-eyed amazement at the amount of 'tat' in the shops.
Others join in, trying to outdo each other on how appalled they are.
A bit of chit chat about how their decorations are decades old, they don't buy 'tat' and enjoy the simple things. They may buy 'one carefully-selected' decoration each year, but that's fine because it's carefully selected.
Usually some sanctimonious threads about just enjoying family time and competitive underbuying as their children would be overwhelmed by anything more than three (second-hand for bonus points) 'carefully-chosen' gifts. Implications that their children have been better brought-up than those who enjoy 'tat'.
Then there is the cohort who have been begging and pleasding with people for years not to buy them anything, yet still they are bought 'tat' when they are allergic to any brand costing less than £50, which means 'tat' like B&H, Yankee, Lindor etc inexplicably cause headaches/itching/asthma in the way Dipythique, Molton Brown and random artisan chocolates never do even though they are essentially the same.
Not forgetting the MN myth that is perpetuated every single year that people who buy this 'tat' throw it all out 'straight to landfill' in January and do the same again next year. In MNland, everyone is buying Christmas PJs for an Instagram pic then binning them straight away.
It all boils down to 'why can't everyone be like me, I do everything properly'.

And the pp on the first page - i am not defending 'tat' (sigh).
I am reacting to the many, many sanctimonious threads such as this one on MN this year, I am guessing predominantly from posters who either have very young children who get what they are given, teenagers or adult children whose 'tat' years are behind them or people with no children at all. Bonus points for looking down on grandparents who buy 'mounds of tat' when the poster wanted one carefully-selected MN approved toy such as Schleich, Playmobile or Lego, which although are plastic, don't count. Or wooden toys or 'books, just books'
I hate plastic. My bathroom and cleaning cupboard have been plastic free since 2019 and I am working on the same for my kitchen and fridge.
But I HATE these virtue-signalling threads that are basically sneering and everyone else but the posters themselves and making up scenarios to look down on so they can preen themselves at how superior they are.

And outside of ‘influencers’, I don’t think there are many adults buying a new pair of Christmas pyjamas every year.

The thing about Instagram and the like is that it shows you more of what you spend time watching. So if you watch a video of Milly-Molly, who was on Love Island, decorating her christmas tree, then it will feed you more of that sort of stuff. And if you are not in the best living circumstances yourself, you watch Milly-Molly's lifestyle and are envious, it's something to aspire to.

Those of us who are more secure in our own skin aren't interested in the monetised antics of Milly-Molly so see nothing of what she is up to. My instagram feed is full of knitters, geocachers, UK travel content, recipes and people doing clever stuff with recycled materials.

Yes children need new clothes reasonably regularly because they grow. Obviously. I’m talking about adults.

Well for me it’s because my kids grown, they tend to need a new pair of pyjamas or two every year, and one of those pairs is usually Christmas pyjamas (unless last years still fit, in which case I don’t buy any new ones). Not many kids can wear the same pair of pyjamas for 10+ years, I’d wager.

That’s you assuming most people do. I don’t think most people are doing this at all. You are feeling cross about a perception you have, not a reality.

I don’t watch them. I don’t use Instagram or TikTok. I hate shopping and fashion. I hate celebrity culture and ‘influencers’. I was trying to explain to the previous poster why the concept of Xmas PJs is wasteful. Obviously if you buy one pair of Xmas PJs and then wear them every winter for ten years, that is not wasteful. I’m trying to understand how people can justify buying Xmas PJs every single year.

We do no adult gifts and all dc gifts are second hand and as we get them we re-list or donate ones they no longer use. So their plastic tat toys are essentially rented for a few years and then passed on.

But those influencer types are business people peddling dreams to thick people. Stop watching them.

@RedRiverShore6 my husband got me perfume and chocolate (perfume I chose) and I got him posh shower gel and after shave and Lego. We do this every year now as both ‘need’ and ‘use’ these things (me definitely requiring the chocolate).
My DS18 got me shower gel (went to Boots and bought one of everything which made me laugh) and DS21 got me a big bag of yarn as I crochet. He was so pleased with himself that he had gone to my local yarn shop and chosen it himself. I was impressed as well!
DD23 got me smellies and useful bits that she had heard me mention I actually needed. She is very good like that.

It amazes me walking around the shops all the Christmas themed tat on sale though. I mean who actually buys all this crap? You can’t use it after Christmas Day (well you could but I never notice it) and need to wait until next December and by then there is more Christmas crap to choose from!!!!

I don’t think I purchased any plastic tat at all. Never shopped in Temu and Shein. No idea what anyone else did but I’m certainly not responsible for crap hitting landfill.

If it makes you feel any better I love my christmas tacky stuff! But I will fill boxes and put it all in the loft for next year 😍

Nobody needs a new set of pyjamas every year?
My kids grow. They need a couple of new pairs of winter pyjamas and a couple of pairs of summer pyjamas every year, to accommodate that growth. One of those new pairs of pyjamas is Christmas themed. They get them on 1st December and wear them until they no longer fit, just like with any other pyjamas they own.

Because these influencer types make a thing about buying a different family set of Xmas PJs every year. Where do they all end up? Nobody needs/can wear that many pairs of PJs.

The most enjoyable parts of Christmas for me are seeing friends and family, playing games, not having to go to work, treat food, decorations in the house, calming carols and twinkly lights and candles. The presents are really the least important aspect for me. I know for children it’s different but even then I think most kids would just be happy with 5 gifts instead of ten. And we need to stop being snobby about second hand stuff. I’m not and neither are my kids but I know some people would be horrified that we buy each other second hand gifts.

Most people are though.

Yep. I think we should all go on purchase strike on year at Christmas. Get back to basics. The shopping frenzy of tat and unnecessary stuff is out of control.